WFMU: Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from January 27, 2021

Listener comments!
	6:59pm LambdaCalculus: Evening, Gary!
	7:00pm Gary: Hey there, LambdaCalculus!
	🇰🇷 7:01pm chresti: Hi Bodega Gary show!
	7:03pm LambdaCalculus: Hey chresti!
	7:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Gary and all!
	7:05pm Gary: Howdy, Chresti and James!
	🇰🇷 7:05pm chresti: Hey Lambda! James!
	7:06pm northguineahills: I had a boss that once liked SY. (he was 25 years older, grew up NYC). But as soon as I started playing the stuff like David was playing, he rescinded the no earphones policy.
	7:06pm Gary: Haha, oh well, NGH
	🇰🇷 7:07pm chresti: Is your boss listening now?
	7:08pm Gary: Chresti, I think he's in transit right now -- he'll be in the office tomorrow morning, and it's a ways away from where he's staying now
	7:08pm spodiodi: howdy, Gary! hi LambdaCalculus, james, chresti \\/, ngh, poppers all!
	7:08pm northguineahills: In my first job after college, I had a boss notiiced I brought a lot of British folk rock and jazz fusion. He said, "you were born in the wrong decade". I responded. I listen to music from every decade.
	7:08pm Gary: Spodiodi, welcome!
	7:08pm northguineahills: @chresti: doubtful. Plus, he's usually gaming right now.
	🇰🇷 7:11pm chresti: Oops, that was for Gary.
	7:11pm coelacanth∅: greetings Gary and all
	🇰🇷 7:11pm chresti: You have a boss now, ngh?
	7:11pm Gary: Isn't this Bring Your Boss to WFMU Day for everyone, tho?
	7:12pm Gary: Hi hi, Ceolacanth!
	7:13pm coelacanth∅: african "hippie" music, right in my wheelhouse
	7:13pm northguineahills: @chresti: I wish!
	7:14pm coelacanth∅: (behind the wheels, next to the bong)
	7:15pm Dean: I had a boss who more than enjoyed the early music I liked. In fact, he managed the West Coast itineraries of one of the world's great early music orchestras, the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra, led by Ton Koopman. Consequently, I attended a recital by Koopman at my boss's house, a performance on my boss's harpsichord. Another boss, albeit at a record store, was open to all sorts of the weird shit we played for the customers. Once when the store was clear, we played Ian Dury's first album, the track that opens, "Assholes, bastards, fucking cunts and pricks..." at full volume. The manager raced out of the back room, exactly the response we sought.
	🇰🇷 7:15pm chresti: Hi coela cant hØ
	7:16pm Gary: Haha, hey there, Dean!
	7:17pm Gary: When I lived in St Paul, MN, one of my building neighbors & friends was in an early music-focused acapella group
	7:21pm northguineahills: the Gambia tried a military confederation w/ Senegal in the 80s-90s. Let's just say it didn't work out...
	7:21pm northguineahills: Witch!
	7:21pm coelacanth∅: at a store i worked in, a "health food" store, which had some regular hardcore born agains and jahova's witnesses, occasionally we'd have a tape on and a word or subject would take us by surprise. we'd look at each-other, look around for signs that anyone there caught it. yes, occasionally. no one ever freaked out on us though.
	7:22pm coelacanth∅: i remember it happening with a Tricky album, in particular. a tape that would cause a problem for me years later when i drove a taxi.
	7:23pm northguineahills: In the SY boss mentioned above, the female colleague was so relieve to wear hedfons. (she borrowed all of my cds, exposed her to wfmu).
	7:23pm northguineahills: relieved.....
	7:24pm coelacanth∅: hi chresti!
	7:25pm Dean: Early music vocal recitals are often incomparably beautiful. So much good work is being done these days. I listened yesterday to a number of recent recitals, some by Contrapunctus. Really impressive. Later, when I was working at Oxford, I walked out of the Blackwell's on Broad Street and encountered Ton Koopman, just standing there. I mentioned having heard him at my boss's house, and he informed me that he was performing that evening at the Sheldonian with London Baroque. Of course I attended.
	🇰🇷 7:26pm chresti: My son sent us a care package that included loaves of bread from SF Bay Area.
	7:27pm spodiodi: he sounds like a good son, chresti! more Acme?
	7:27pm spodiodi: i've thought i should do the same sometime, based on your prior mention. my mom would probably love it
	7:28pm Gary: I WANT SOMEONE TO SEND ME SOME SF SOURDOUGH
	7:30pm spodiodi: noted, Gary -- i'll keep you in mind if ever i make my way out on a bread hunt for my mom!
	7:30pm Dean: Is tonight's theme based on an assumption that bosses in general, by virtue of being bosses, like relatively easy-going fare? Or that your boss, precisely, indeed only likes such fare? A week or so ago my wife purchased a loaf of whole wheat sourdough at a nearby supermarket here in Berkeley. It was really good.
	🇰🇷 7:32pm chresti: Yes ACME, and Jane Bread, and a really dense, nutty bread. Should last us awhile.
	7:32pm spodiodi: our most recent favorite bread is TJ's naan (eat it with homemade daal)
	7:33pm spodiodi: Jane Bread is new to me. will keep an eye out
	7:33pm Dean: Acme is four blocks from my home. There is always a huge line outside, and so I almost never go there, because I can buy it a block away at the supermarket.
	7:33pm doctorjazz: Hi Posters! Liking the sounds!
	7:33pm Gary: That's a good question, Dean. There is probably a bit of that bias in selection tonight. I won't be playing, for instance, any wild hip-hop or collage-y stuff, or noise. But, more specifically, in the case of my boss, I believe he likes and listens to Afropop Worldwide, for instance, and has a significant collection of rock from the 1965-75-ish period
	7:34pm spodiodi: hi doctorjazz!
	7:34pm Gary: Dr. Jazz!
	7:34pm doctorjazz: TJs naan, yummmmmmmm
	7:35pm tim abdellah: Sourdough in the bodega tonight!
	7:35pm spodiodi: doctorjazz knows -- it's really quite good for something that comes in a bag! it also freezes well
	7:35pm Dean: Got it. In other words, your mixtape doesn't necessarily touch on all the musics your boss might enjoy.
	7:36pm Gary: ... but we'll be hearing some great sweaty stuff from Egypt and Lebanon later, for instance. There's a story behind this, which I'll detail at the break.
	7:36pm Gary: Tim! I AM JEALOUS REALIZING YOU ARE IN STRIKING DISTANCE OF SF SOURDOUGH
	7:38pm tim abdellah: Ha! I don't often venture out past Lucky at El Cerrito Plaza to the south and Grocery Outlet to the north. This has been my sourdough of choice lately, available at both places on the best days: www.ralphs.com...
	7:40pm Gary: My closest analog is Trader Joe's SF Sourdough
	7:40pm Dean: Do you not also venture one half block south to the TJ's at ECP, tim? I'm there once every week or so. I'm down by the Acme on Cedar.
	🇰🇷 7:41pm WR: ah, near the end of David W show I heard him say something about mixtape for my boss, didn't realize he was announcing theme for Bodega Pop, I was wondering who David's boss would be. this exercise would be too convoluted for me, like which boss...
	🇰🇷 7:41pm chresti: The TJs in Pinole had ACME bread.
	7:41pm Gary: Haha, welcome, WR!
	7:42pm Dean: (Was secretly hoping David would play an excerpt from Fuck Shit Up by Moore/Ranaldo/Marclay, a show I attended and one of the few SY bits I know.)
	7:43pm Gary: Oh, I love that record, Dean! I played it a couple of years ago, altho I can't remember the episode now
	7:43pm spodiodi: TJs in SF have Acme bread too
	7:44pm tim abdellah: Hey Dean! No, haven't been into Trader Joe's for months! I do miss it for some things, but Lucky has more of what I need for the household, so it's more practical for me.
	7:45pm tim abdellah: I can't believe I'm chatting about my grocery habits here :D
	7:46pm spodiodi: i haven't had many bosses in the past 25 years, and i don't want to think about what my last one's mix tape would sound like (probably some Hottie and some Dave Matthews)
	7:46pm spodiodi: Hootie*
	7:47pm tim abdellah: Hottie LOL!
	7:47pm Gary: More Comments about Bosses and Groceries
	7:47pm Dean: I have a bunch of bosses, and I've shared music with two of them. To one I gave a Ferron CD. With the other I've shared all sorts of stuff, including an expanded issue of the Dury record I mentioned, but also various odds and ends: Theo Bleckmann, Magazine bootlegs, Robert Wyatt... This particular boss is British and just old enough to have experienced the London punk scene of '76-'79. tim: I wander into Lucky's now and then. If you see somebody in a WFMU t-shirt, odds are good it's me.
	7:47pm spodiodi: :D
	7:48pm tim abdellah: Koudede!
	7:48pm spodiodi: i had at boss at an Acme (supermarket), in NJ, but we never exchanged tapes. nor bread
	7:49pm Gary: Tim, I know my boss will like Koudede
	🇰🇷 7:49pm chresti: The routine shopping spot near my parents' place is Raley's in San Pablo/El Sobrante on San Pablo Dam Rd.
	7:50pm spodiodi: if i told my mom i was sending her some Acme bread she'd probably think "whoop-ti-do, spodiodi"
	7:50pm Ike: Hi all. I don't think Acme Supermarket (which is sometimes dire) exists on the West Coast. I gather that SF's Acme Bread Co. is a whole other animal entirely.
	7:51pm spodiodi: yes, Ike (hi) see my last comments
	7:51pm Dean: Obvious question: Is said boss listening in tonight? El Sobrante is a fun place, chresti. There's an amazing Mexican joint, El Trompudo, on SPDR, I think. I call it "San Pablo DAMN!!!! Road."
	7:51pm Gary: Hey you kids wanna go to Asia or Egypt/Lebanon next?
	7:52pm spodiodi: Acme, but not the supermarket, nor the Coyote supply version
	7:52pm tim abdellah: I'll keep an eye out Dean! I'll be the one with a colorful pakol hat, a red leather Moroccan embroidered man-bag, and an Oakland A's face mask.
	7:52pm TDK60: Hi Gary, popsters.
	7:52pm Dean: Nebraska isn't in the running?
	7:52pm spodiodi: yes, please, Gary!
	7:52pm spodiodi: Thee, TDK60 \\//
	7:52pm Gary: Dean, I think boss is in transit tonight, but may listen in later. This show is an intro to an external drive w/music I'm swapping w/him
	🇰🇷 7:52pm chresti: acmebread.com
	7:53pm Gary: TDK60!
	7:53pm tim abdellah: I'll follow wherever you wanna go, Gary
	7:54pm spodiodi: www.quickmeme.com... Coyote logic
	7:54pm Dean: Oops, I think you said that upthread, Gary. Sorry. tim: How does that distinguish you at all from the demographic of our Berkeley environs?
	7:54pm Ike: And then of course there's Acme Rocket-Powered Products, Inc. which makes rocket skates, giant rubber bands, earthquake pills, etc. I'd imagine their Yelp reviews must be pretty bad. So, there's a lot of Acmes.
	7:54pm Dean: (Joke!)
	7:54pm Gary: Ike!!
	7:54pm TDK60: \\ // spodi.
	7:54pm spodiodi: see Coyote supply in my comment above, Ike -- yes
	7:55pm tim abdellah: @ Dean - I know, I'm a friggin post card :D
	7:55pm Dean: I'll assume everybody knows the New Yorker piece reporting Coyote's suit against Acme?
	7:55pm Dean: Gotcha. I'll look for a post card!
	7:56pm Ike: Also, on a different bread note, I believe different TJ's have different bread (at least on a regional level).
	7:57pm doctorjazz: Amazingly, I came home, looked on the kitchen counter, and there's a loaf of TJs Some Hearth Baked Sourdough Lost. My daughter shipped (also got these amazing Raspberry Hearts cookies).
	7:57pm spodiodi: here's an Acme (lame, children's, barely funny) "joke" that my cousin used to enjoy: "Acme and Smacme went into the market... Acme came out. Who's left?" to which, a sucker should reply "Smack me", and then recieve a smack from my cousin (or whoever is telling that masterful joke)
	7:57pm Dean: Different TJs have different everythings. Some of their product is produced for TJ, while some of it is locally/regionally acquired. For example, brewery overstock shows up in a local TJ, but not others. That's part of the company's genius.
	🇰🇷 7:57pm chresti: \\// \\ //Down here it's La Brea Bakery bread @TJs
	7:58pm spodiodi: Ike, bread, and much more -- when i was last in Annapolis, i stopped at their TJs thinking i'd grab some lunch -- i think it was afalafel wrap -- it was way way way different than that which i'm used to in SF
	7:58pm Dean: Nancy Silverton. Campanile was pretty damn good. Not so sure, because I don't have direct experience, about her later ventures.
	7:58pm spodiodi: (they don't know how to make that in Annapolis, apparently)
	7:58pm northguineahills: TJ's has the best veggie chorizo. I think it's better then the meat version, and I'm an omnivore....
	7:59pm tim abdellah: @NGH - yeah, that soy chorizo is great!
	7:59pm spodiodi: thier vegan taquitos are also good (for frozen easy, unhealthy kinda snack-ish food), ngh
	8:00pm spodiodi: i think said taquitos must feature a version of their chorizo
	8:00pm tim abdellah: I have never met my boss in person. He was hired last year after lockdown, so I've only interacted with him by Zoom and email. I wonder how tall he is. (And what music he likes.)
	8:00pm Ike: I always got the impression that 95% of the stuff in TJ's was standardized nationwide, but maybe I was wrong! And I've rarely seen overstocks of anything there. I can see it with the wraps though. Also @NGH I like that veggie chorizo too, though not being very experienced with chorizo, is it supposed to be that crumbly? It totally goes to pieces on me.
	8:00pm schmutz: cool boss Gary :) y'all making me hungry. But mostly want a NJ bagel (dream of bagel)
	8:02pm spodiodi: i worked with a team in Argentina who i'd never met, and their physical dimensions were difficult to gather on video chat -- i once mentioned the one guy i was friendliest with appeared to be a rather large person (who i wouldn't want to mess with)... he just laughed, and i kept wondering
	8:03pm iiiiike: I'm very lucky to live close to Baked in Brooklyn, which has excellent bread, esp. whole wheat, but I don't think they make sourdough. Or if they do, I keep missing it.
	8:04pm Dean: I think you're right, Ike. A lot (maybe not 95%) of TJ's stock is standard, and in fact I find it at Whole Foods (which I loathe) at the same or even lower prices. Welcome, folks, to capitalism and "choice." Your choice is trade dress. That's about it.
	8:04pm northguineahills: Singapore, the only nation to achieve independence against it's will (kicked out by Malaysia, whoops....)
	8:05pm Gary: Schmutz! Super-excited for Friday, when I'll be grabbing a bagel before heading out to the office in NJ
	🇰🇷 8:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: GutenNoches ! ...distracted by all these shows on all these streams now ! ...but I got a lotta that 1st set pre-clicked !...
	8:05pm tim abdellah: Hey Gary - Looks like you can order Boudin online. I haven't had it for a long time, but we used to love getting it in SF when I was a kid: store.boudinbakery.com...
	8:06pm Gary: Hey there, RevRab!
	8:06pm spodiodi: i mostly avoid bread... but that TJs naan has my attention -- i suggested we toast one and split it down the middle, adding some fake butter and jam, as a snack. it's that good. (and versatile, i bet, that it would make a great sweet snack too
	8:06pm Gary: Oh, amazing, thank you, Tim!
	8:06pm northguineahills: @Ike: It doesn't crumble that much, but when using the meat, I usually break it up into small pieces anyways for anything Mexican requiring chorizo. Spanish (espana) is a bit different.
	8:07pm ♪Kɛ: @Dean, I've never seen a single product that was ever cheaper at WF than at TJ's, unless it was a WF 365-brand item (WF's house brand), and even that's a stretch. I love TJ's for the prices. Nothing wrong with them asking producers to make a version just for TJ's and relabeling it. It works. I wonder if they still get dark chocolate from Callebaut. The taste seems to have changed slightly, so maybe not....
	8:08pm northguineahills: @spodi: i used to make pizza w/ that naan....
	8:09pm spodiodi: oooh, great idea, ngh
	🇰🇷 8:10pm chresti: I like TJs yogurt. Yes, naan pizza.
	8:11pm Dean: I know, Ike, it's hard to believe, but indeed some products--yes, mostly the house brand, in my experience--undersell the TJ's counterpart. I can't at the moment think of a recent example. I can establish that WF sells beer at a marginally lower cost than others. Want the 19oz. Ubadank? You'll find it for $3.99 at Berkeley Bowl, $3.49 at WF.
	8:12pm TDK60: Never heard of Hyun before. Cool tape, Gary.
	8:13pm Gary: TDK, I believe this is a Light in the Attic release?
	8:13pm ♪Kɛ: Ah, it makes sense I wouldn't know about the beer. I'm not much of a drinker, except the occasional cider. I have noticed the pear (I think) cider is awfully expensive at TJ's in Bklyn, though maybe it's just a pricey item (?).
	8:14pm Gary: My boss, by the way, makes his own beer. I've only had one, and it was, I gotta admit, pretty good
	🇰🇷 8:14pm chresti: Josey Bakery's Adventure bread is flourless, from the Mill on Divisadero. Dense and sensational.
	🇰🇷 8:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Beer after all is Bread + Hops they say...
	🇰🇷 8:16pm chresti: I had 2 slices with avocado and I'm stuffed.
	8:16pm doctorjazz: Brought home 2 pizza pies from my favorite System Island pizza place, Joe and Pats. Da best thin crust pie EVAH!
	🇰🇷 8:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Nice IronButterfly type organ tone...
	8:18pm spodiodi: Dean, I've been meaning to mention to ask if you've read anything about GPT-3 (since you seem to like to challenge the worth/intelligence of software developers.) I was thinking you'd get (or have already gotten a kick.)
	8:18pm spodiodi: -"to mention"
	8:18pm doctorjazz: (the problem with thin crust pizza is you can keep eating until you've eaten a pie job your own...)
	8:19pm spodiodi: i fail to see the problem, doctorjazz ;)
	🇰🇷 8:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Makes two of us. Two pies then...
	8:21pm spodiodi: no, brotherman, have four (thanks, ARB)
	8:22pm schmutz: @Gary hell yes bagel Friday.
	🇰🇷 8:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...now they sound like Can...
	🇰🇷 8:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...which is pretty f*ckin' kewl...
	8:24pm spodiodi: heck yeah
	8:25pm Gary: Everything bagel, lox spread, and tomato, please, not toasted
	8:27pm Dean: I should add that sales change the equation. WF has sales--chicken drumsticks today are $0.99/lb.--where TJ's never has a sale. On those occasions, WF is the best deal (not taking into account the externalities of the network effect). GPT-3? Haven't read anything, and moreover I know precisely zero about it. My take on software and tech stems largely from a modicum of experience and an abundance of disappointment. You know, theory versus practice.
	8:28pm melinda: hi friends
	8:28pm schmutz: *not toasted – very important.
	8:29pm tim abdellah: <3 <3 <3 Layla Mourad <3 <3 <3
	8:30pm TDK60: So, it won't be an actual cassette. That's okay, I'll hang around...
	8:30pm Dean: "...you got me on my knees..."
	8:31pm Gary: Melinda!
	8:31pm tim abdellah: @Dean :) @TDK - I wonder how many TDK60 cassettes would it take to capture 3TB worth of music in FLAC format.
	8:32pm Gary: TDK, home taping is destroying music. You know that better than anyone
	🇰🇷 8:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 3TB = how many hours ???
	8:33pm Gary: RevRab, I have no idea, haha
	🇰🇷 8:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...let's say all of TheBeatles = 4GB...
	8:33pm TDK60: I just found a cache of tapes today at our local outdoor library bookshelf. Classical tapes. Haydn, Bartok.
	8:34pm Gary: Oh, cool, what Bartok? He's a fave of mine
	8:35pm TDK60: Gary, haven't had time to look through yet.
	8:37pm Gary: Ahmed Adewaya is my favorite living Egyptian singer, hands down
	🇰🇷 8:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ... =s 0.004 TB ...
	8:38pm Dean: Among my favorite reads in library school, late '80s UCLA, were Fritz Machlup's assessments of the quantities of information produced in the USA. He had to proceed manually, i.e., by looking and seeing and measuring the amounts. At the time, digital investigation was available but not affordable. And so the query about how many cassettes it takes to capture a FUCKING HUGE amount of "information" wasn't even on the table. Later, Hal Varian at Berkeley ran some numbers. But I worry that Varian's notion of "information" differs meaningfully from Machlup's.
	🇰🇷 8:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...=s what - 8 hours ? ...
	8:39pm TDK60: Me? I can't imagine time beyond 90 min.
	8:40pm Gary: Complicating things, RevRab, is that some is 128kbps, some 192, some 320, some FLAC, some Apple Lossless, some WAV, so it's all over the map how big or small these files are
	🇰🇷 8:41pm chresti: Haha TDK60 \\ //
	8:42pm spodiodi: cool, Dean. thanks. had to ask.
	8:42pm spodiodi: nice one, TDK @ 833!
	🇰🇷 8:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...fairly Lossless Beatles - but we're playing loose here ... 6,000 hours maybe...
	8:43pm TDK60: Yes DJ, the voice of Adewaya is catchy.
	🇰🇷 8:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ... 250 Days...
	🇰🇷 8:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ... 2/3rds of a year-ish, playing 24/7 ...maybe.
	🇰🇷 8:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...so buy a few Napa shelves for yer C60s...
	8:50pm tim abdellah: 6000 tapes. Damn!
	🇰🇷 8:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Imagine getting 3TB of Goodies from Gary !! :D
	8:54pm Gary: Did anyone read Level 7? I read that during lunch breaks in high school, and I remember one of the most important discoveries survivors made was that the music loop seemed to last about a week or so
	8:54pm Gary: en.wikipedia.org...
	🇰🇷 8:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hm. ColdWar...
	🇰🇷 9:02pm chresti: I like the Avalanches bed music.
	9:04pm Dean: Haven't read Level 7, and frankly I have a hard time with SF. However, I plan soon to reread Asimov's Foundation trilogy, and hope to read Dhalgren. I recently reread Brian Aldiss's Cryptozoic (originally, The Age). Eventually, maybe, I'll get to Doris Lessing's series of SF works.
	9:05pm tim abdellah: Oh, that is a great cover!: www.discogs.com...
	9:06pm peter: belated hello to Gary & all!
	9:06pm tim abdellah: Hey Peter!
	9:07pm Gary: Peter!
	9:07pm Gary: Yes! Follow Tim's link to see the Tony Hanna album cover in all its glory
	🇰🇷 9:09pm WR: Have not read Level 7. Concept is admirable, but I usually don't find SF engaging enough to read a whole book.
	🇰🇷 9:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Rawking the ElliotSmith stylee!
	9:15pm Gary: Very much so, + some Syd Barrett
	9:19pm tim abdellah: Rock!!
	9:19pm tim abdellah: You got any early Gibb brothers in the Australia set?
	🇰🇷 9:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pathetically don't read enuff anymore - but sometimes listen to this guy review SciFi books just to keep my brain thinking that way : www.sfbrp.com
	9:20pm Gary: Sadly no!!!!!!! :(
	9:20pm Gary: Didn't I hear about a Gibbs Bros doc that's floating around?
	9:20pm tim abdellah: Yeah, it's on HBO Max
	9:21pm Gary: Oh, shoot -- I wanna find a way to see that
	9:21pm tim abdellah: I'll hook ya up. There's some great footage in it.
	9:22pm Gary: Oooooh, intrigue-y!
	🇰🇷 9:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Bday Party ! What a band. Interesting style & lived like & performed like madmen...
	9:24pm tim abdellah: A perennial Australian period Gibb fave of mine: www.youtube.com...
	9:25pm Dean: I don't trust docs. Not one bit.
	9:26pm Gary: Mebbe, but don't you LOVE them, nonetheless?
	9:27pm Dean: I'm antiocularcentric. So, no, I don't love them. They disturb me.
	9:28pm Gary: Sadness
	🇰🇷 9:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Trust - kinda the issue good point. Entertainment vs. Enlightenment - kinda the issue of the age... I reckon I learned anything - I usually appreciate it... I enjoy many of them - resent not a few... Prefer Docs to BioDrammas...
	9:30pm JB from NP: I think I finally decided last night that I do like pie better than cake. No offense to cake. I'll always eat cake too.
	9:31pm JB from NP: AND TALL DWARFS!!! Nice
	9:31pm Gary: Blueberry pie kicks any cake's ass, as any sane person will readily admit, JB from NP
	9:31pm Gary: Well, wait, except for blueberry cheesecake
	9:31pm TDK60: I first heard this Dwarfs on a mix tape.
	9:32pm Gary: FULL CIRCLE, TDK
	9:32pm rw: Hey-o
	9:33pm JB from NP: Agreed on the Blueberry pie. I do especially love a good pecan pie. Strawberry rhubarb too (good pie, but I love saying rhubarb).
	9:33pm tim abdellah: That was a great set!
	🇰🇷 9:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like Jung said he didn't consider Music much because he didn't understand it : restated it stirred up too many strong things from the Collective Unconscious - & the Musicians didn't;t reckon any of that responsibly either ! ...I can understand resenting the tyranny of the semiotics of the Visual Industry... I'm a Listener...
	9:34pm JB from NP: Jung also liked cake more than pie, so he has no cred.
	🇰🇷 9:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Blueberries - so delicious & so many phytonutrients ! Crazy right ?
	🇰🇷 9:34pm chresti: Wow, great, Tall Dwarfs.
	9:36pm JB from NP: Blueberries are great. I don't like blueberry wine. Had it a couple of times, it's not for me.
	9:39pm Gary: RW!
	9:40pm tim abdellah: This is great. I did think it read "these wonderful elvis"
	9:40pm Gary: These Wonderful Elvis needs to be a documentary
	🇰🇷 9:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...well - there's 'The King' - but that's different...
	9:43pm Gary: Hey Kids, Sam Segal's If You Lose Your Horse is on right after this program with an episode he's calling "Kind of Horse for a Color TV" wfmu.org...
	9:48pm JB from NP: Damn, I'm really enjoying this set. I only tuned in for the AU/NZ set, so I have some archive listening to do tomorrow.
	9:48pm rw: Don’t know why but I have that Wonderful Evils comp somewhere. I rarely watch OR trust docs, but I’d totally watch that one!
	9:50pm northguineahills: The siren song of Da Lab!
	9:51pm Gary: I'm guessing my boss hasn't heard SL before
	9:52pm northguineahills: I always randomly tune in after taking a break, for Stereolab, it's like fate...
	9:55pm northguineahills: Mary Hansen [I had a crush on her], was Australian was a founding member until a vehicle killed her on her bicycle in 2002]
	9:56pm spodiodi: thanks, Gary! nice show. loved the stuff from Egypt see you all next time
	9:56pm Gary: I didn't know she was Australian
	9:56pm LambdaCalculus: I've been looking everywhere for City of Ghosts and can never find it.
	9:56pm Gary: I'll send it to you LambdaCalc
	🇰🇷 9:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Just now looking @ a bunch of pics of Joni.
	9:57pm TDK60: Thanks, good night.
	9:57pm LambdaCalculus: Thanks, Gary!
	🇰🇷 9:57pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	🇰🇷 9:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY GARY
	9:58pm northguineahills: muchas gracias, Gary!
	9:59pm tim abdellah: Your boss will be stoked. Thanks Gary! Have a great night all!
	9:59pm JB from NP: Thanks Gary
	9:59pm northguineahills: My favorite CA based Kmer - language band....
	9:59pm rw: TYGS!!
	10:00pm Gary: Night, and thanks, everyone!
	🇰🇷 10:01pm WR: thank you Gary. ps l love all berries but particularly blueberries
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Gary!

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from January 27, 2021

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January 27, 2021: Mixtape for My Boss
International music according to what I imagine my boss will like.

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Music behind DJ: Bodega Pop	Intro "Intro" by "Bodega Pop"	Bodega Pop	2021		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Africa "Africa"
Idrissa Soumaoro Et L'Eclipse De L'Ija	Nissodia (Joie De L'optimisme)	The Original Sound Of Mali	2017	Mali	0:04:44 (Pop-up)
Guelewar Band of Banjul	Jilanna "Jilanna" by "Guelewar Band of Banjul"	Touki Ba Banjul: Acid Trip From Banjul to Dakar	2014	Gambia	0:12:10 (Pop-up)
Witch	Like a Chicken "Like a Chicken" by "Witch"	We Intend to Cause Havoc! [Disc 1: Introduction and In The Past]	2012	Zambia	0:20:15 (Pop-up)
Akofa Akoussah	Ramer Sans Rame "Ramer Sans Rame" by "Akofa Akoussah"	Akofa Akoussah	1976	Togo	0:23:13 (Pop-up)
T.P. Orchestre Poly-Rythmo	Aihe Ni Kpe We	The Kings of Benin Urban Groove 1972-80	2004	Benin	0:27:06 (Pop-up)
Eji Oyewole	Lagos Complex - Highways	Charity Begins at Home	1978	Nigeria	0:34:12 (Pop-up)
Tal National	Zigda "Zigda" by "Tal National"	Kaani	2013	Niger	0:42:39 (Pop-up)
Koudede	Hat-Iman-In (She is my heart)	Guitars of Agadez Vol. 6	2014	Niger	0:47:52 (Pop-up)
Kamaru Celina Band	Mukurara Nake "Mukurara Nake" by "Kamaru Celina Band"	Kenya Special : Volume Two Selected East African Recordings From The 1970s & 80s	2016	Kenya	0:52:40 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: De Frank Jr	Chicken "Chicken" by "De Frank Jr"	Akwaba Abidjan: Afrofunk in 1970s Ivory Coast	2017	Côte d'Ivoire	0:55:54 (Pop-up)
Asia "Asia"
Adnan Othman & The Wanderers	Revolusi	Pop Yeh Yeh: Psychedelic Rock From Singapore And Malaysia 1964-1970 Vol. 1	2013	Malaysia	1:02:24 (Pop-up)
Kelompok Kampungan	Mereka Mencari Tuhan	Mencari Tuhan	1975	Indonesia	1:05:28 (Pop-up)
Shin Joong Hyun	"J" Blues 72 ""J" Blues 72" by "Shin Joong Hyun"	Beautiful Rivers And Mountains: The Psychedelic Rock Sound Of South Korea's Shin Joong Hyun 1958-1974	1972	Korea	1:10:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Omar Khorshid	Raksat El Kheyl "Raksat El Kheyl" by "Omar Khorshid"	Guitar el Chark	2012	Egypt	1:25:14 (Pop-up)
Egypt & Lebanon "Egypt & Lebanon"
Leila Mourad	Mahma Tal Illial "Mahma Tal Illial" by "Leila Mourad"	Sanatain Wana Ahail Feek		Egypt	1:29:15 (Pop-up)
Ahmed Adewaya	Ya Taibni "Ya Taibni" by "Ahmed Adewaya"	Best of Khaled Ajaj & Ahmed Adawiya		Egypt	1:35:37 (Pop-up)
Maya Yazbek	Ya Habibi Ya Ayni "Ya Habibi Ya Ayni" by "Maya Yazbek"	Habibi Ya Ayni	1993	Lebanon	1:47:09 (Pop-up)
Tony Hanna	Allah Maou "Allah Maou" by "Tony Hanna"	Tony Hanna in Hollywood	1982	Lebanon / USA (recorded in Detroit)	1:52:17 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Avalanches	Tonight May Have To Last Me All My Life	When I Met You	2004	Australia	2:00:43 (Pop-up)
Australia & New Zealand "Australia & New Zealand"
The Country Outcasts	Streets Of Old Fitzroy	Buried Country. The Story Of Aboriginal Country Music	2000	Australia	2:06:35 (Pop-up)
The Triffids	Old Ghostrider "Old Ghostrider" by "The Triffids"	Treeless Plain	1984	Australia	2:10:04 (Pop-up)
Animal Pharma	Persecution of an Intelligent Schizophrenic	Zygoat	2007	Australia	2:13:14 (Pop-up)
The Screaming MeeMees	Till I Die "Till I Die" by "The Screaming MeeMees"	If This Is Paradise, I'll Take the Bag	1982	New Zealand	2:15:29 (Pop-up)
Peter Doyle	High Time Baby "High Time Baby" by "Peter Doyle"	Buried Alive Demented Teenage Fuzz From Down Under 1965 - 1970 (Disc Two)	2017	Australia	2:17:53 (Pop-up)
The Birthday Party	Happy Birthday	Hee-Haw	1989	Australia	2:20:38 (Pop-up)
Super K	Recurring Nightmare "Recurring Nightmare" by "Super K"	Inner City Sound: Australian Punk and Post Punk	1982	Australia	2:24:34 (Pop-up)
Tall Dwarfs	Nothing's Going to Happen	It's Bigger Than Both of Us (NZ Singles 1979-82)	1988	New Zealand	2:29:26 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fabulous Four	"The Fabulous Four"	Who Will Buy These Wonderful Evils	2003	Sweden	2:33:04 (Pop-up)
Europe & USA "Europe & USA"
The Shakers	Who Will Buy (These Wonderful Evils)	Who Will Buy (These Wonderful Evils)	2003	Sweden	2:37:26 (Pop-up)
S.H.Draumur	Helmút Á Mótorhjóli	Goð+	1988	Iceland	2:40:48 (Pop-up)
The Ex	Membership "Membership" by "The Ex"	Singles. Period. The Vinyl Years 1980-1990	2005	Netherlands	2:44:36 (Pop-up)
Stereolab	Three-Dee Melodie "Three-Dee Melodie" by "Stereolab"	Mars Audiac Quintet	1994	UK/France	2:50:13 (Pop-up)
Dengue Fever	Both Sides Now "Both Sides Now" by "Dengue Fever"	City of Ghosts (OST)	2003	USA	2:55:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Catrina Paslaru	Hei La Bodega "Hei La Bodega" by "Catrina Paslaru"	Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!	2000		2:58:56 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:59pm LambdaCalculus: Evening, Gary!
	7:00pm Gary: Hey there, LambdaCalculus!
	🇰🇷 7:01pm chresti: Hi Bodega Gary show!
	7:03pm LambdaCalculus: Hey chresti!
	7:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Gary and all!
	7:05pm Gary: Howdy, Chresti and James!
	🇰🇷 7:05pm chresti: Hey Lambda! James!
	7:06pm northguineahills: I had a boss that once liked SY. (he was 25 years older, grew up NYC). But as soon as I started playing the stuff like David was playing, he rescinded the no earphones policy.
	7:06pm Gary: Haha, oh well, NGH
	🇰🇷 7:07pm chresti: Is your boss listening now?
	7:08pm Gary: Chresti, I think he's in transit right now -- he'll be in the office tomorrow morning, and it's a ways away from where he's staying now
	7:08pm spodiodi: howdy, Gary! hi LambdaCalculus, james, chresti \\/, ngh, poppers all!
	7:08pm northguineahills: In my first job after college, I had a boss notiiced I brought a lot of British folk rock and jazz fusion. He said, "you were born in the wrong decade". I responded. I listen to music from every decade.
	7:08pm Gary: Spodiodi, welcome!
	7:08pm northguineahills: @chresti: doubtful. Plus, he's usually gaming right now.
	🇰🇷 7:11pm chresti: Oops, that was for Gary.
	7:11pm coelacanth∅: greetings Gary and all
	🇰🇷 7:11pm chresti: You have a boss now, ngh?
	7:11pm Gary: Isn't this Bring Your Boss to WFMU Day for everyone, tho?
	7:12pm Gary: Hi hi, Ceolacanth!
	7:13pm coelacanth∅: african "hippie" music, right in my wheelhouse
	7:13pm northguineahills: @chresti: I wish!
	7:14pm coelacanth∅: (behind the wheels, next to the bong)
	7:15pm Dean: I had a boss who more than enjoyed the early music I liked. In fact, he managed the West Coast itineraries of one of the world's great early music orchestras, the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra, led by Ton Koopman. Consequently, I attended a recital by Koopman at my boss's house, a performance on my boss's harpsichord. Another boss, albeit at a record store, was open to all sorts of the weird shit we played for the customers. Once when the store was clear, we played Ian Dury's first album, the track that opens, "Assholes, bastards, fucking cunts and pricks..." at full volume. The manager raced out of the back room, exactly the response we sought.
	🇰🇷 7:15pm chresti: Hi coela cant hØ
	7:16pm Gary: Haha, hey there, Dean!
	7:17pm Gary: When I lived in St Paul, MN, one of my building neighbors & friends was in an early music-focused acapella group
	7:21pm northguineahills: the Gambia tried a military confederation w/ Senegal in the 80s-90s. Let's just say it didn't work out...
	7:21pm northguineahills: Witch!
	7:21pm coelacanth∅: at a store i worked in, a "health food" store, which had some regular hardcore born agains and jahova's witnesses, occasionally we'd have a tape on and a word or subject would take us by surprise. we'd look at each-other, look around for signs that anyone there caught it. yes, occasionally. no one ever freaked out on us though.
	7:22pm coelacanth∅: i remember it happening with a Tricky album, in particular. a tape that would cause a problem for me years later when i drove a taxi.
	7:23pm northguineahills: In the SY boss mentioned above, the female colleague was so relieve to wear hedfons. (she borrowed all of my cds, exposed her to wfmu).
	7:23pm northguineahills: relieved.....
	7:24pm coelacanth∅: hi chresti!
	7:25pm Dean: Early music vocal recitals are often incomparably beautiful. So much good work is being done these days. I listened yesterday to a number of recent recitals, some by Contrapunctus. Really impressive. Later, when I was working at Oxford, I walked out of the Blackwell's on Broad Street and encountered Ton Koopman, just standing there. I mentioned having heard him at my boss's house, and he informed me that he was performing that evening at the Sheldonian with London Baroque. Of course I attended.
	🇰🇷 7:26pm chresti: My son sent us a care package that included loaves of bread from SF Bay Area.
	7:27pm spodiodi: he sounds like a good son, chresti! more Acme?
	7:27pm spodiodi: i've thought i should do the same sometime, based on your prior mention. my mom would probably love it
	7:28pm Gary: I WANT SOMEONE TO SEND ME SOME SF SOURDOUGH
	7:30pm spodiodi: noted, Gary -- i'll keep you in mind if ever i make my way out on a bread hunt for my mom!
	7:30pm Dean: Is tonight's theme based on an assumption that bosses in general, by virtue of being bosses, like relatively easy-going fare? Or that your boss, precisely, indeed only likes such fare? A week or so ago my wife purchased a loaf of whole wheat sourdough at a nearby supermarket here in Berkeley. It was really good.
	🇰🇷 7:32pm chresti: Yes ACME, and Jane Bread, and a really dense, nutty bread. Should last us awhile.
	7:32pm spodiodi: our most recent favorite bread is TJ's naan (eat it with homemade daal)
	7:33pm spodiodi: Jane Bread is new to me. will keep an eye out
	7:33pm Dean: Acme is four blocks from my home. There is always a huge line outside, and so I almost never go there, because I can buy it a block away at the supermarket.
	7:33pm doctorjazz: Hi Posters! Liking the sounds!
	7:33pm Gary: That's a good question, Dean. There is probably a bit of that bias in selection tonight. I won't be playing, for instance, any wild hip-hop or collage-y stuff, or noise. But, more specifically, in the case of my boss, I believe he likes and listens to Afropop Worldwide, for instance, and has a significant collection of rock from the 1965-75-ish period
	7:34pm spodiodi: hi doctorjazz!
	7:34pm Gary: Dr. Jazz!
	7:34pm doctorjazz: TJs naan, yummmmmmmm
	7:35pm tim abdellah: Sourdough in the bodega tonight!
	7:35pm spodiodi: doctorjazz knows -- it's really quite good for something that comes in a bag! it also freezes well
	7:35pm Dean: Got it. In other words, your mixtape doesn't necessarily touch on all the musics your boss might enjoy.
	7:36pm Gary: ... but we'll be hearing some great sweaty stuff from Egypt and Lebanon later, for instance. There's a story behind this, which I'll detail at the break.
	7:36pm Gary: Tim! I AM JEALOUS REALIZING YOU ARE IN STRIKING DISTANCE OF SF SOURDOUGH
	7:38pm tim abdellah: Ha! I don't often venture out past Lucky at El Cerrito Plaza to the south and Grocery Outlet to the north. This has been my sourdough of choice lately, available at both places on the best days: www.ralphs.com...
	7:40pm Gary: My closest analog is Trader Joe's SF Sourdough
	7:40pm Dean: Do you not also venture one half block south to the TJ's at ECP, tim? I'm there once every week or so. I'm down by the Acme on Cedar.
	🇰🇷 7:41pm WR: ah, near the end of David W show I heard him say something about mixtape for my boss, didn't realize he was announcing theme for Bodega Pop, I was wondering who David's boss would be. this exercise would be too convoluted for me, like which boss...
	🇰🇷 7:41pm chresti: The TJs in Pinole had ACME bread.
	7:41pm Gary: Haha, welcome, WR!
	7:42pm Dean: (Was secretly hoping David would play an excerpt from Fuck Shit Up by Moore/Ranaldo/Marclay, a show I attended and one of the few SY bits I know.)
	7:43pm Gary: Oh, I love that record, Dean! I played it a couple of years ago, altho I can't remember the episode now
	7:43pm spodiodi: TJs in SF have Acme bread too
	7:44pm tim abdellah: Hey Dean! No, haven't been into Trader Joe's for months! I do miss it for some things, but Lucky has more of what I need for the household, so it's more practical for me.
	7:45pm tim abdellah: I can't believe I'm chatting about my grocery habits here :D
	7:46pm spodiodi: i haven't had many bosses in the past 25 years, and i don't want to think about what my last one's mix tape would sound like (probably some Hottie and some Dave Matthews)
	7:46pm spodiodi: Hootie*
	7:47pm tim abdellah: Hottie LOL!
	7:47pm Gary: More Comments about Bosses and Groceries
	7:47pm Dean: I have a bunch of bosses, and I've shared music with two of them. To one I gave a Ferron CD. With the other I've shared all sorts of stuff, including an expanded issue of the Dury record I mentioned, but also various odds and ends: Theo Bleckmann, Magazine bootlegs, Robert Wyatt... This particular boss is British and just old enough to have experienced the London punk scene of '76-'79. tim: I wander into Lucky's now and then. If you see somebody in a WFMU t-shirt, odds are good it's me.
	7:47pm spodiodi: :D
	7:48pm tim abdellah: Koudede!
	7:48pm spodiodi: i had at boss at an Acme (supermarket), in NJ, but we never exchanged tapes. nor bread
	7:49pm Gary: Tim, I know my boss will like Koudede
	🇰🇷 7:49pm chresti: The routine shopping spot near my parents' place is Raley's in San Pablo/El Sobrante on San Pablo Dam Rd.
	7:50pm spodiodi: if i told my mom i was sending her some Acme bread she'd probably think "whoop-ti-do, spodiodi"
	7:50pm Ike: Hi all. I don't think Acme Supermarket (which is sometimes dire) exists on the West Coast. I gather that SF's Acme Bread Co. is a whole other animal entirely.
	7:51pm spodiodi: yes, Ike (hi) see my last comments
	7:51pm Dean: Obvious question: Is said boss listening in tonight? El Sobrante is a fun place, chresti. There's an amazing Mexican joint, El Trompudo, on SPDR, I think. I call it "San Pablo DAMN!!!! Road."
	7:51pm Gary: Hey you kids wanna go to Asia or Egypt/Lebanon next?
	7:52pm spodiodi: Acme, but not the supermarket, nor the Coyote supply version
	7:52pm tim abdellah: I'll keep an eye out Dean! I'll be the one with a colorful pakol hat, a red leather Moroccan embroidered man-bag, and an Oakland A's face mask.
	7:52pm TDK60: Hi Gary, popsters.
	7:52pm Dean: Nebraska isn't in the running?
	7:52pm spodiodi: yes, please, Gary!
	7:52pm spodiodi: Thee, TDK60 \\//
	7:52pm Gary: Dean, I think boss is in transit tonight, but may listen in later. This show is an intro to an external drive w/music I'm swapping w/him
	🇰🇷 7:52pm chresti: acmebread.com
	7:53pm Gary: TDK60!
	7:53pm tim abdellah: I'll follow wherever you wanna go, Gary
	7:54pm spodiodi: www.quickmeme.com... Coyote logic
	7:54pm Dean: Oops, I think you said that upthread, Gary. Sorry. tim: How does that distinguish you at all from the demographic of our Berkeley environs?
	7:54pm Ike: And then of course there's Acme Rocket-Powered Products, Inc. which makes rocket skates, giant rubber bands, earthquake pills, etc. I'd imagine their Yelp reviews must be pretty bad. So, there's a lot of Acmes.
	7:54pm Dean: (Joke!)
	7:54pm Gary: Ike!!
	7:54pm TDK60: \\ // spodi.
	7:54pm spodiodi: see Coyote supply in my comment above, Ike -- yes
	7:55pm tim abdellah: @ Dean - I know, I'm a friggin post card :D
	7:55pm Dean: I'll assume everybody knows the New Yorker piece reporting Coyote's suit against Acme?
	7:55pm Dean: Gotcha. I'll look for a post card!
	7:56pm Ike: Also, on a different bread note, I believe different TJ's have different bread (at least on a regional level).
	7:57pm doctorjazz: Amazingly, I came home, looked on the kitchen counter, and there's a loaf of TJs Some Hearth Baked Sourdough Lost. My daughter shipped (also got these amazing Raspberry Hearts cookies).
	7:57pm spodiodi: here's an Acme (lame, children's, barely funny) "joke" that my cousin used to enjoy: "Acme and Smacme went into the market... Acme came out. Who's left?" to which, a sucker should reply "Smack me", and then recieve a smack from my cousin (or whoever is telling that masterful joke)
	7:57pm Dean: Different TJs have different everythings. Some of their product is produced for TJ, while some of it is locally/regionally acquired. For example, brewery overstock shows up in a local TJ, but not others. That's part of the company's genius.
	🇰🇷 7:57pm chresti: \\// \\ //Down here it's La Brea Bakery bread @TJs
	7:58pm spodiodi: Ike, bread, and much more -- when i was last in Annapolis, i stopped at their TJs thinking i'd grab some lunch -- i think it was afalafel wrap -- it was way way way different than that which i'm used to in SF
	7:58pm Dean: Nancy Silverton. Campanile was pretty damn good. Not so sure, because I don't have direct experience, about her later ventures.
	7:58pm spodiodi: (they don't know how to make that in Annapolis, apparently)
	7:58pm northguineahills: TJ's has the best veggie chorizo. I think it's better then the meat version, and I'm an omnivore....
	7:59pm tim abdellah: @NGH - yeah, that soy chorizo is great!
	7:59pm spodiodi: thier vegan taquitos are also good (for frozen easy, unhealthy kinda snack-ish food), ngh
	8:00pm spodiodi: i think said taquitos must feature a version of their chorizo
	8:00pm tim abdellah: I have never met my boss in person. He was hired last year after lockdown, so I've only interacted with him by Zoom and email. I wonder how tall he is. (And what music he likes.)
	8:00pm Ike: I always got the impression that 95% of the stuff in TJ's was standardized nationwide, but maybe I was wrong! And I've rarely seen overstocks of anything there. I can see it with the wraps though. Also @NGH I like that veggie chorizo too, though not being very experienced with chorizo, is it supposed to be that crumbly? It totally goes to pieces on me.
	8:00pm schmutz: cool boss Gary :) y'all making me hungry. But mostly want a NJ bagel (dream of bagel)
	8:02pm spodiodi: i worked with a team in Argentina who i'd never met, and their physical dimensions were difficult to gather on video chat -- i once mentioned the one guy i was friendliest with appeared to be a rather large person (who i wouldn't want to mess with)... he just laughed, and i kept wondering
	8:03pm iiiiike: I'm very lucky to live close to Baked in Brooklyn, which has excellent bread, esp. whole wheat, but I don't think they make sourdough. Or if they do, I keep missing it.
	8:04pm Dean: I think you're right, Ike. A lot (maybe not 95%) of TJ's stock is standard, and in fact I find it at Whole Foods (which I loathe) at the same or even lower prices. Welcome, folks, to capitalism and "choice." Your choice is trade dress. That's about it.
	8:04pm northguineahills: Singapore, the only nation to achieve independence against it's will (kicked out by Malaysia, whoops....)
	8:05pm Gary: Schmutz! Super-excited for Friday, when I'll be grabbing a bagel before heading out to the office in NJ
	🇰🇷 8:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: GutenNoches ! ...distracted by all these shows on all these streams now ! ...but I got a lotta that 1st set pre-clicked !...
	8:05pm tim abdellah: Hey Gary - Looks like you can order Boudin online. I haven't had it for a long time, but we used to love getting it in SF when I was a kid: store.boudinbakery.com...
	8:06pm Gary: Hey there, RevRab!
	8:06pm spodiodi: i mostly avoid bread... but that TJs naan has my attention -- i suggested we toast one and split it down the middle, adding some fake butter and jam, as a snack. it's that good. (and versatile, i bet, that it would make a great sweet snack too
	8:06pm Gary: Oh, amazing, thank you, Tim!
	8:06pm northguineahills: @Ike: It doesn't crumble that much, but when using the meat, I usually break it up into small pieces anyways for anything Mexican requiring chorizo. Spanish (espana) is a bit different.
	8:07pm ♪Kɛ: @Dean, I've never seen a single product that was ever cheaper at WF than at TJ's, unless it was a WF 365-brand item (WF's house brand), and even that's a stretch. I love TJ's for the prices. Nothing wrong with them asking producers to make a version just for TJ's and relabeling it. It works. I wonder if they still get dark chocolate from Callebaut. The taste seems to have changed slightly, so maybe not....
	8:08pm northguineahills: @spodi: i used to make pizza w/ that naan....
	8:09pm spodiodi: oooh, great idea, ngh
	🇰🇷 8:10pm chresti: I like TJs yogurt. Yes, naan pizza.
	8:11pm Dean: I know, Ike, it's hard to believe, but indeed some products--yes, mostly the house brand, in my experience--undersell the TJ's counterpart. I can't at the moment think of a recent example. I can establish that WF sells beer at a marginally lower cost than others. Want the 19oz. Ubadank? You'll find it for $3.99 at Berkeley Bowl, $3.49 at WF.
	8:12pm TDK60: Never heard of Hyun before. Cool tape, Gary.
	8:13pm Gary: TDK, I believe this is a Light in the Attic release?
	8:13pm ♪Kɛ: Ah, it makes sense I wouldn't know about the beer. I'm not much of a drinker, except the occasional cider. I have noticed the pear (I think) cider is awfully expensive at TJ's in Bklyn, though maybe it's just a pricey item (?).
	8:14pm Gary: My boss, by the way, makes his own beer. I've only had one, and it was, I gotta admit, pretty good
	🇰🇷 8:14pm chresti: Josey Bakery's Adventure bread is flourless, from the Mill on Divisadero. Dense and sensational.
	🇰🇷 8:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Beer after all is Bread + Hops they say...
	🇰🇷 8:16pm chresti: I had 2 slices with avocado and I'm stuffed.
	8:16pm doctorjazz: Brought home 2 pizza pies from my favorite System Island pizza place, Joe and Pats. Da best thin crust pie EVAH!
	🇰🇷 8:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Nice IronButterfly type organ tone...
	8:18pm spodiodi: Dean, I've been meaning to mention to ask if you've read anything about GPT-3 (since you seem to like to challenge the worth/intelligence of software developers.) I was thinking you'd get (or have already gotten a kick.)
	8:18pm spodiodi: -"to mention"
	8:18pm doctorjazz: (the problem with thin crust pizza is you can keep eating until you've eaten a pie job your own...)
	8:19pm spodiodi: i fail to see the problem, doctorjazz ;)
	🇰🇷 8:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Makes two of us. Two pies then...
	8:21pm spodiodi: no, brotherman, have four (thanks, ARB)
	8:22pm schmutz: @Gary hell yes bagel Friday.
	🇰🇷 8:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...now they sound like Can...
	🇰🇷 8:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...which is pretty f*ckin' kewl...
	8:24pm spodiodi: heck yeah
	8:25pm Gary: Everything bagel, lox spread, and tomato, please, not toasted
	8:27pm Dean: I should add that sales change the equation. WF has sales--chicken drumsticks today are $0.99/lb.--where TJ's never has a sale. On those occasions, WF is the best deal (not taking into account the externalities of the network effect). GPT-3? Haven't read anything, and moreover I know precisely zero about it. My take on software and tech stems largely from a modicum of experience and an abundance of disappointment. You know, theory versus practice.
	8:28pm melinda: hi friends
	8:28pm schmutz: *not toasted – very important.
	8:29pm tim abdellah: <3 <3 <3 Layla Mourad <3 <3 <3
	8:30pm TDK60: So, it won't be an actual cassette. That's okay, I'll hang around...
	8:30pm Dean: "...you got me on my knees..."
	8:31pm Gary: Melinda!
	8:31pm tim abdellah: @Dean :) @TDK - I wonder how many TDK60 cassettes would it take to capture 3TB worth of music in FLAC format.
	8:32pm Gary: TDK, home taping is destroying music. You know that better than anyone
	🇰🇷 8:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 3TB = how many hours ???
	8:33pm Gary: RevRab, I have no idea, haha
	🇰🇷 8:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...let's say all of TheBeatles = 4GB...
	8:33pm TDK60: I just found a cache of tapes today at our local outdoor library bookshelf. Classical tapes. Haydn, Bartok.
	8:34pm Gary: Oh, cool, what Bartok? He's a fave of mine
	8:35pm TDK60: Gary, haven't had time to look through yet.
	8:37pm Gary: Ahmed Adewaya is my favorite living Egyptian singer, hands down
	🇰🇷 8:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ... =s 0.004 TB ...
	8:38pm Dean: Among my favorite reads in library school, late '80s UCLA, were Fritz Machlup's assessments of the quantities of information produced in the USA. He had to proceed manually, i.e., by looking and seeing and measuring the amounts. At the time, digital investigation was available but not affordable. And so the query about how many cassettes it takes to capture a FUCKING HUGE amount of "information" wasn't even on the table. Later, Hal Varian at Berkeley ran some numbers. But I worry that Varian's notion of "information" differs meaningfully from Machlup's.
	🇰🇷 8:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...=s what - 8 hours ? ...
	8:39pm TDK60: Me? I can't imagine time beyond 90 min.
	8:40pm Gary: Complicating things, RevRab, is that some is 128kbps, some 192, some 320, some FLAC, some Apple Lossless, some WAV, so it's all over the map how big or small these files are
	🇰🇷 8:41pm chresti: Haha TDK60 \\ //
	8:42pm spodiodi: cool, Dean. thanks. had to ask.
	8:42pm spodiodi: nice one, TDK @ 833!
	🇰🇷 8:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...fairly Lossless Beatles - but we're playing loose here ... 6,000 hours maybe...
	8:43pm TDK60: Yes DJ, the voice of Adewaya is catchy.
	🇰🇷 8:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ... 250 Days...
	🇰🇷 8:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ... 2/3rds of a year-ish, playing 24/7 ...maybe.
	🇰🇷 8:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...so buy a few Napa shelves for yer C60s...
	8:50pm tim abdellah: 6000 tapes. Damn!
	🇰🇷 8:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Imagine getting 3TB of Goodies from Gary !! :D
	8:54pm Gary: Did anyone read Level 7? I read that during lunch breaks in high school, and I remember one of the most important discoveries survivors made was that the music loop seemed to last about a week or so
	8:54pm Gary: en.wikipedia.org...
	🇰🇷 8:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hm. ColdWar...
	🇰🇷 9:02pm chresti: I like the Avalanches bed music.
	9:04pm Dean: Haven't read Level 7, and frankly I have a hard time with SF. However, I plan soon to reread Asimov's Foundation trilogy, and hope to read Dhalgren. I recently reread Brian Aldiss's Cryptozoic (originally, The Age). Eventually, maybe, I'll get to Doris Lessing's series of SF works.
	9:05pm tim abdellah: Oh, that is a great cover!: www.discogs.com...
	9:06pm peter: belated hello to Gary & all!
	9:06pm tim abdellah: Hey Peter!
	9:07pm Gary: Peter!
	9:07pm Gary: Yes! Follow Tim's link to see the Tony Hanna album cover in all its glory
	🇰🇷 9:09pm WR: Have not read Level 7. Concept is admirable, but I usually don't find SF engaging enough to read a whole book.
	🇰🇷 9:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Rawking the ElliotSmith stylee!
	9:15pm Gary: Very much so, + some Syd Barrett
	9:19pm tim abdellah: Rock!!
	9:19pm tim abdellah: You got any early Gibb brothers in the Australia set?
	🇰🇷 9:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pathetically don't read enuff anymore - but sometimes listen to this guy review SciFi books just to keep my brain thinking that way : www.sfbrp.com
	9:20pm Gary: Sadly no!!!!!!! :(
	9:20pm Gary: Didn't I hear about a Gibbs Bros doc that's floating around?
	9:20pm tim abdellah: Yeah, it's on HBO Max
	9:21pm Gary: Oh, shoot -- I wanna find a way to see that
	9:21pm tim abdellah: I'll hook ya up. There's some great footage in it.
	9:22pm Gary: Oooooh, intrigue-y!
	🇰🇷 9:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Bday Party ! What a band. Interesting style & lived like & performed like madmen...
	9:24pm tim abdellah: A perennial Australian period Gibb fave of mine: www.youtube.com...
	9:25pm Dean: I don't trust docs. Not one bit.
	9:26pm Gary: Mebbe, but don't you LOVE them, nonetheless?
	9:27pm Dean: I'm antiocularcentric. So, no, I don't love them. They disturb me.
	9:28pm Gary: Sadness
	🇰🇷 9:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Trust - kinda the issue good point. Entertainment vs. Enlightenment - kinda the issue of the age... I reckon I learned anything - I usually appreciate it... I enjoy many of them - resent not a few... Prefer Docs to BioDrammas...
	9:30pm JB from NP: I think I finally decided last night that I do like pie better than cake. No offense to cake. I'll always eat cake too.
	9:31pm JB from NP: AND TALL DWARFS!!! Nice
	9:31pm Gary: Blueberry pie kicks any cake's ass, as any sane person will readily admit, JB from NP
	9:31pm Gary: Well, wait, except for blueberry cheesecake
	9:31pm TDK60: I first heard this Dwarfs on a mix tape.
	9:32pm Gary: FULL CIRCLE, TDK
	9:32pm rw: Hey-o
	9:33pm JB from NP: Agreed on the Blueberry pie. I do especially love a good pecan pie. Strawberry rhubarb too (good pie, but I love saying rhubarb).
	9:33pm tim abdellah: That was a great set!
	🇰🇷 9:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like Jung said he didn't consider Music much because he didn't understand it : restated it stirred up too many strong things from the Collective Unconscious - & the Musicians didn't;t reckon any of that responsibly either ! ...I can understand resenting the tyranny of the semiotics of the Visual Industry... I'm a Listener...
	9:34pm JB from NP: Jung also liked cake more than pie, so he has no cred.
	🇰🇷 9:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Blueberries - so delicious & so many phytonutrients ! Crazy right ?
	🇰🇷 9:34pm chresti: Wow, great, Tall Dwarfs.
	9:36pm JB from NP: Blueberries are great. I don't like blueberry wine. Had it a couple of times, it's not for me.
	9:39pm Gary: RW!
	9:40pm tim abdellah: This is great. I did think it read "these wonderful elvis"
	9:40pm Gary: These Wonderful Elvis needs to be a documentary
	🇰🇷 9:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...well - there's 'The King' - but that's different...
	9:43pm Gary: Hey Kids, Sam Segal's If You Lose Your Horse is on right after this program with an episode he's calling "Kind of Horse for a Color TV" wfmu.org...
	9:48pm JB from NP: Damn, I'm really enjoying this set. I only tuned in for the AU/NZ set, so I have some archive listening to do tomorrow.
	9:48pm rw: Don’t know why but I have that Wonderful Evils comp somewhere. I rarely watch OR trust docs, but I’d totally watch that one!
	9:50pm northguineahills: The siren song of Da Lab!
	9:51pm Gary: I'm guessing my boss hasn't heard SL before
	9:52pm northguineahills: I always randomly tune in after taking a break, for Stereolab, it's like fate...
	9:55pm northguineahills: Mary Hansen [I had a crush on her], was Australian was a founding member until a vehicle killed her on her bicycle in 2002]
	9:56pm spodiodi: thanks, Gary! nice show. loved the stuff from Egypt see you all next time
	9:56pm Gary: I didn't know she was Australian
	9:56pm LambdaCalculus: I've been looking everywhere for City of Ghosts and can never find it.
	9:56pm Gary: I'll send it to you LambdaCalc
	🇰🇷 9:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Just now looking @ a bunch of pics of Joni.
	9:57pm TDK60: Thanks, good night.
	9:57pm LambdaCalculus: Thanks, Gary!
	🇰🇷 9:57pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	🇰🇷 9:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY GARY
	9:58pm northguineahills: muchas gracias, Gary!
	9:59pm tim abdellah: Your boss will be stoked. Thanks Gary! Have a great night all!
	9:59pm JB from NP: Thanks Gary
	9:59pm northguineahills: My favorite CA based Kmer - language band....
	9:59pm rw: TYGS!!
	10:00pm Gary: Night, and thanks, everyone!
	🇰🇷 10:01pm WR: thank you Gary. ps l love all berries but particularly blueberries
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Gary!

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from January 27, 2021

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