WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from July 6, 2022

Listener comments!
	🥁 10:03pm WR: Que queres?
	10:05pm chresti: Hi Sam and staring horse animals!
	10:05pm Sam Segal: Hola, WR!
	10:05pm northguineahills: it's kind of hard for horses to stare when they have monocular vision.
	10:06pm Sam Segal: Chresti! Thank you for focusing your ears' gaze in this internet radio direction.
	10:06pm Gary via app: Sounding good!
	10:06pm Sam Segal: Don't underestimate the telescopic power of horses' vision, NGH!
	10:07pm Sam Segal: Gary! Let us know if you need any help escaping from that app.
	10:07pm TDK60: Hi Sam.
	10:07pm _Ike_: Are you on? Is this you? Is that you? Where am I?
	10:07pm northguineahills: Hilltop Auto Parts is still there in the Bronx....
	10:08pm zzz: tis the season for cumbia. what’s up folks
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam and animals
	10:10pm Sam Segal: Buenos noches, Ike, TDK, zzz, and Coel!
	10:11pm _Ike_: Oh I see what happened -- my internet momentarily went kablooey and my VLC skipped over to Sheena's somehow.
	10:12pm zzz: @northguinea your knowledge of BX is very impressive to me, a bx dweller. i finally had some time to head out to Moodie’s records last weekend on a sunday, a shortish drive from me, but it was closed
	10:12pm Gary via app: Thanks, I’m perfectly appy here
	10:12pm coelacanth∅: little-known fact: horses have another pair of eyes located within their nostrils. it's really really true.
	10:13pm headcleaner: Now that's a road that goes places
	10:14pm Gary via app: Math skiillz!
	10:15pm coelacanth∅: ~!K∑~ my vlc kablooed also (but went to nothing)
	10:15pm northguineahills: @zzz: It's mainly due to mapping the Bronx w/ different City and Federal agencies, but also due to meeting at different locations in the Bronx. (I still know the Bronx less then any other boro save SI).
	10:16pm northguineahills: I'm so used to losing interwebs, I just keep on refreshing...
	10:16pm headcleaner: As for your trilled Rs, Sam -- just pretend your tongue is a wet towel that you're whipping at your enemies
	10:18pm Gary via app: If you can make a cat purring sound you can roll your Rs
	10:18pm TDK60: You need a muffin to help you roll those double castillano "rr"s. ... Just kiddin.'
	10:18pm Sam Segal: Good trick, headcleaner! Take my tongue back to the junior high locker room!
	10:19pm Sam Segal: @gary, maybe I'll just get my cats to roll my Rs for me.
	10:19pm northguineahills: the closest advice I have is try to make an "L" but actually make an ""R". After a while it will subconsciously trill....
	10:21pm zzz: monyaka sounded great. new to me. love NYC reggae from the '80s. ive been obsessed with wackies showcase releases the past few weeks
	10:21pm coelacanth∅: so is boston road in the bronx a limited-access elevated direct line to boston,ma -with no speed limit and a cinnabon/whackdonalds/sbarro pizza evey 65 miles? and is it called bronx rd once you get closer to boston?!
	10:22pm Sam Segal: Maybe I'll practice my horrible unrollable Rs during the next mic break.
	10:23pm northguineahills: @coel: it does have controlled access as in the center and road access on the periphery. It used to be the road that went to Boston in the 19th c.
	10:25pm doctorjazz: Hey Sam and Horsemen (and Horsewomen out there as well)!
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: i knew it! -sort of. ... i guess boston and the bronx are not that far from each-other,after all. maybe 200 miles? (really wild guess)
	10:26pm northguineahills: @dr jazz: horsefolk also works....
	10:27pm northguineahills: @coel: you hit the nail on the head!
	10:28pm Sam Segal: Doc! Jealous of your FMU apron.
	10:29pm coelacanth∅: what, 200 miles? really?! maybe sometimes i don't completely suck at everything. ...i always think of boston as far away but it's not so far.
	10:31pm northguineahills: @coel: it's just traffic far...
	10:31pm northguineahills: (I've only made the drive once)
	10:32pm doctorjazz: Swag just came a few days ago, haven't gotten to your premium CD yet but really looking forward to hearing it (right up my alley)!
	10:34pm chresti: Ready for kitchen surgery, doc!
	10:34pm northguineahills: I had to download my swag cds, as I don't have access to cd players that play cdrs (my laptop only plays cds)
	10:35pm coelacanth∅: true ngh. i have driven to boston a few times from stamford ct, a few years ago. timing is everything.
	10:38pm zzz: o'hagan sounding a lot like o'rourke here
	10:39pm doctorjazz: Been cooking up a storm, chresti!
	10:39pm doctorjazz: I though the O'Hagan was some long lost Beach Boys I missed.
	10:40pm northguineahills: @drjazz: Sean O'Hagan is behind the High Llamas (very BBesque)
	10:41pm Sam Segal: Definitely, zzz. Sean O'Hagan played with Stereolab a lot. O'Rourke produced my favorite Stereolab album (Sound-Dust). Jim was actually on the previous track by Kahimi Karie.
	10:41pm doctorjazz: Ahhh, thanks ngh, one of those blind spots in my music knowledge.
	10:41pm northguineahills: I didn't get into Flo & Eddie until 5 years ago....
	10:42pm Sam Segal: I discovered Flo & Eddie via Matt Warwick's show on WFMU!
	10:42pm doctorjazz: Saw Flo and Eddie (centuries ago) at the old Bottom Line, NYC, fun show (if I can remember that far back).
	10:42pm northguineahills: @Sam: I believe that was the case w/ me....
	10:43pm northguineahills: Oh, and just b/c, O'Hagan is frequently in Stereolab...
	10:45pm zzz: love this silver jews track
	10:45pm northguineahills: nice, the silver jews!
	10:45pm doctorjazz: The Silver Jews I first heard here, love the band (and this track)!
	10:45pm coelacanth∅: i don't know how but i learned of flo & eddie pretty early; but i can't say i ever got into them. stereolab, on the other hand, though i knew of early, i got into very late. in fact sound-dust was my first 'lab album. didn't know of the convoluted connection, either
	10:46pm zzz: flo and eddie always makes me think of them squealing and goofing around with the zappa early 70s band.
	10:47pm coelacanth∅: (and i did look to see if Sean O'Hagan was the beach boys)
	10:49pm northguineahills: @coel: I discovered Stereolab in '94 and they immediately became my favorite pop band...
	10:50pm zzz: stereolab is the BEST. have tickets to see them in october cant wait
	10:52pm northguineahills: I've seen Stereolab 11 times, and I'm so jealous of zzz....
	10:53pm northguineahills: I have seen Pierre Bastien 'live' w/ his machines...
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: ngh i knew of stereolab probably almost from their beginning but i confess it was several years before it clicked for me
	10:56pm Sam Segal: @zzz, you should show up for the opener at Stereolab. Fievel Is Glauque. I've played them a lot on the show. I really like them.
	10:57pm northguineahills: In Atlanta in '99, Stereolab and Sonic Youth played the same bill (great show).
	10:58pm doctorjazz: Still waiting for Stereolab to click, I know I SHOULD be into them...
	10:58pm doctorjazz: Do like this toe, though.
	10:59pm Sam Segal: If your toe clicks, Doc, you might want to seek medical treatment.
	10:59pm Dean: The FMU twitter feed has a link to a bit by Sasha Frere-Jones about Krautroick in which he compares the genre to Stereolab. It's clear to me that SF-J knows almost nothing about Krautrock. He seems to think it's this drifty, gauzy smear, hence he points only to bands like Harmonia, Neu, Cluster, not once mentioning genuine Krautrock pioneers like Jane, Kraan, Tomorrow's Gift, etc. One shout-out to Guru Guru. Grobschnitt? Nothing. Anyway, I don't like Stereolab.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: Sam a lot of bands/artists i think got better and better, then slipped...so if that high point was the end, for whatever reason, we could say they just got better and better. i think Tom Waits and Kate Bush fall into that category. and Nick Cave
	11:02pm Sam Segal: Dean! I can always count on you for a heterodox take.
	11:02pm Sam Segal: Where do you wish Tom Waits would've called it quits, Coel?
	11:02pm Dean: That's a good thing, right?
	11:03pm Sam Segal: Definitely a good thing.
	11:03pm coelacanth∅: there's no remedy for not liking stereolab, doctor. treatment centers on making the afflicted comfortable. sometimes it resolves spontaneously.
	11:05pm Dean: Trust me, I know well that there is no remedy for not liking Stereolab.
	11:06pm coelacanth∅: Sam i don't know. maybe Waits is still getting better; it all started sounding recycled to me though and i stopped paying attention. but i can barely tolerate some of his early stuff. also Nick Cave - i haven't heard his latest. maybe he's still getting better.
	11:08pm Sam Segal: I'm not a super close listener to Nick Cave, but I did really like the Skeleton Tree album from 2016.
	11:08pm Dean: Waits is a real question. I think I agree with coel. At some point he lost the fire. I might home in on Frank's Wild Years, perhaps the latest one I enjoy. I love his early stuff. I've never understood the admiration of Nick Cave, whom I find pretentious.
	11:09pm Sam Segal: My favorite Waits album is late-period. Mule Variations from 1999.
	11:09pm chresti: You got any drifty, gauzy smear music?
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: i'll say, in any case, and possibly for no one's benefit, that peng! (the first album) is my favorite stereolab album.
	11:11pm Sam Segal: @chresti, I feel like the Sparkling Wide Pressure may have fit your description.
	11:11pm ~!K∑~: Drifty and smeary? Like my brain?
	11:11pm doctorjazz: I'm also in agreement on Waits, really liked his early stuff, liked when he started to "take it out", but it also started losing my interest after a short while. Stereolab is one of those bands where I feel like I SHOULD like them, I'm missing something, not appreciating something I should get (old Jewish guilt flaring up). Radiohead affects me the same way; hip, feel like I should appreciate them, have 2 albums, just never did it for me. N-E-S-T-L-E-S, Nestles is the very best...
	11:12pm northguineahills: That was the SF-J article that came out in the 90s, right? If so, (I can't remember which rag I read it in), it was really my only touchstone to Krautrock, until I was able to really start finding other krautrock recs on my own around 2000. TBH, Stereolab only has one (17 min) track that be considered a simulacrum to krautock.
	11:13pm northguineahills: until 2000, the only recs I could find were cluster and neu!
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: i really like from swordfishtrombones all the way through mule variations, though i think the latter has some filler
	11:13pm zzz: nothing tops Rain Dogs for me, but i am far from a Waits expert.
	11:14pm doctorjazz: Liked Swordfishtrombones as well...
	11:14pm Dean: We're making progress here. Mule Variations was the moment when I started to doubt. My touchstone to Krautrock was c.'76, a buddy in high school who bought tons of it. I borrowed it all. For me one of the pinnacles of German progressive rock is Epitaph. Nobody mentions them these days. Yeah, Rain Dogs...killer album.
	11:14pm zzz: Alice / Blood Money i also really liked.
	11:15pm coelacanth∅: haha, doc - it is decidedly NOT hip to like radiohead in wfmuland!
	11:15pm doctorjazz: I missed Krautrock until Flash Strap ran a few good features on it, got the Brain Box and some other albums to catch up.
	11:15pm Dean: I'm not Jewish by any stretch, but I suffer from the same guilt, doctorjazz. "Maybe I'm ... [gasp] ... wrong!"
	11:16pm Dean: Played tracks from the Brain Box just last night! We're nothing if not predictable around here.
	11:17pm coelacanth∅: doc, i think if you don't like stereolab, then you shouldn't like stereolab!
	11:17pm doctorjazz: Dean will object, but this Evergreen is quite a trip over headphones (which is the only way to listen this late in Chez Doctorjazz).
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: ...my list of artists i don't care for that are fashionable to rave about on these here comments boards is probably 20-long!
	11:18pm doctorjazz: Of course, Coela, but there's that nagging feeling that there's something great that's just not clicking in for me (that happens-I remember starting to listen to jazz, got Dizzy Gillespie in an instant, didn't get Charlie Parker right away, took a bit of listening to realize he was IT)
	11:20pm coelacanth∅: heh, and maybe it's true! but then, think of all the tons of artists you do like - so many of which so many other people don't get
	11:20pm Dean: I don't object, doc, except that I'll never know how trippy it is over headphones. By the way, a close friend whom I hadn't seen for a long time stayed with us two weekends ago. I played CDs and LPs for him, because that's what we did way back in the day. He was blown away by the stereo setup: wide separation, transparent aural "view" to the instruments. Made my day.
	11:20pm doctorjazz: (and lots of Phil Schapp's Bird Flight)
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: ...of course, this doesn't apply to me because i've thoroughly examined everything and my opinion is correct and final
	11:23pm northguineahills: I haven't used my stereo setup since i was in Brooklyn.... (i'll need to rectify that...when I'm back in Brooklyn).
	11:23pm doctorjazz: When my wife first came to my bachelor apartment, Dean, and I played some music from what was then my beginning audiophile system, she made some comment, something about being able to see/hear where all the musicians were. That was either brilliant on her part, or Kismet (of course, she had no idea of what she was getting into).
	11:25pm doctorjazz: ngh, you going back to Brooklyn? (I've been in New Jersey for 25 years, still feel like a Brooklynite).
	11:26pm Dean: I say it was brilliant, a frank observation about technology that I certainly wasn't prepared to make until I'd been tutored.
	11:26pm Sam Segal: This one is trippy through headphones.
	11:27pm northguineahills: @drjazz: If all goes well. I should be healthy enough to start working again in November, then I need to save money to get back to where I belong, so, summer 2023 is my goal (i was functionally blind until 3 weeks ago, and only had two working eyes as of 7 hours ago).
	11:28pm coelacanth∅: and by the way, dr.j, i'm fairly certain i still don't "get" Bird. i like him; and occasionally i'm in awe of the subtleties of his playing...but i don't think i'm seeing the whole picture.
	11:31pm coelacanth∅: nestle didn't taste watered-down to me Sam
	11:32pm doctorjazz: NGH, that's great! Good luck with it all! Coela, listened to a ton of Bird-I can sing many of his solos note for note (that's lots of listening). I took jazz guitar lessons for a while (I was a bit older-there was no way I had the time to practice enough to master it, gave up after about a year). But, even my less than half speed attempts to play Bird transcribed solos during that time also gave me much appreciation.
	11:35pm doctorjazz: My schedule has changed, up early in the morning, will have to take my leave now. Loved the tunes, Sam, night all! (sounds like I'll have to catch the end in the archives tomorrow...)
	11:35pm northguineahills: night, dr jazz!
	11:35pm doctorjazz: Ooooo, such a nice beginning...
	11:36pm doctorjazz: OK, gotta go, laters all!
	11:36pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc! Hope the enticement of Jim Black doesn't keep you from your slumber.
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: doctor i've got many hours' worth of listening to Bird's finest recordings, Thanks to you...just... time
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: 'night dr. j
	11:37pm Sam Segal: @NGH, best of luck on the journey back to Brooklyn. Glad we'll have you back out here sooner or later!
	11:37pm Dean: Heard Jim Black at a tiny bar in Albany, just north of Berkeley, not too many years ago. Prior to that I'm pretty sure he was the drummer for Don Byron with Uri Caine at an outdoor show at Skirball Center in Los Angeles.
	11:40pm Sam Segal: Don Byron, Uri Caine, and Jim Black...very nice. I saw JB duo with Nels Cline once, which was pretty great.
	11:42pm northguineahills: I usually stay up late as it's my only course to retain my sanity in my current abode , sleep be damned. I read while woofmooing, then watch something on my laptop. I get up at 4:30 to exercise then eat. I might sneak a two hour nap in. Every three days I try to get at least 506 hours of sleep. (probably why I slept 12-14 hrs when I was quarentined).
	11:44pm northguineahills: errr, 5-6 hours of sleep every 3 days.
	11:45pm Sam Segal: What's your exercise routine entail, NGH?
	11:49pm northguineahills: Mostly stretching, working on abs, back, and upper body, and squats. I'm not someone who usually cares about how I look, but after the scare I had last fall, I need to take care of my body. Luckily, there are some residual signs of the footie player I used to be....
	11:51pm Sam Segal: I could use more of all that.
	11:53pm northguineahills: Last January I was a grotesquerie, now I look like a normal human.
	11:56pm northguineahills: merci, sam, bonne nuit!
	11:57pm Sam Segal: Thank you for being here, NGH!
	🥁 12:00am WR: Thank you, Sam. Onward.
	12:00am caroline from atlanta: great stuff sam, ty!
	12:01am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! g'night y'all
	12:02am zzz: thx for a great show SS
	12:03am chresti: Thanks Sam!
	9:28am doctorjazz: Just got to listen to the last set, great! (My Thursday work hours changed, now up at 6). Listening to Radical Jewish Music now, terrific collection! Thanks, Sam!

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July 6, 2022: He Ate Like an Animal, the Horse Tried Not to Stare

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Los Kintos	Idioma Criollo "Idioma Criollo" by "Los Kintos"	Los Kintos	Vampi Soul	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Juaneco Y Su Combo	La Cumbia del Pacurro	Perú Maravilloso: Vintage Latin, Tropical and Cumbia	Strut	0:11:22 (Pop-up)
Romperayo	Alegria de no Tener Pension	Que Jue?	Discrepant	0:15:52 (Pop-up)

Monyaka	Lamentation "Lamentation" by "Monyaka"	Classical Roots Showcase	Hevyaka	0:23:23 (Pop-up)
Man Made Hill	Permission 2 Party "Permission 2 Party" by "Man Made Hill"	Intercourses	Orange Milk	0:28:18 (Pop-up)
Lieven Martens	Suite sentimentale e mini-male III	The Habu	Edições CN	0:30:14 (Pop-up)
Pierre Bastien	Rasta Tsar "Rasta Tsar" by "Pierre Bastien"	Sonic Folkways	Discrepant	0:32:48 (Pop-up)
Rachika Nayar	New Strands "New Strands" by "Rachika Nayar"	Our Hands Against the Dusk	NNA	0:34:31 (Pop-up)
RM Hubbert	Hungarian Notation (with Shane Connolly, Alex Kapranos & Michael John McCarthy)	Thirteen Lost & Found	Chemikal Underground	0:36:26 (Pop-up)
Kahimi Karie	Animal Architecture "Animal Architecture" by "Kahimi Karie"	It's Here	Victor	0:39:57 (Pop-up)
Sean O'Hagan	Spoken Gem "Spoken Gem" by "Sean O'Hagan"	Radum Calls, Radum Calls	Drag City	0:43:08 (Pop-up)
Flo & Eddie	Really Love "Really Love" by "Flo & Eddie"	The Phlorescent Leech & Eddie	Reprise	0:47:26 (Pop-up)
Silver Jews	The Poor, The Fair And The Good	Tanglewood Numbers	Drag City	0:50:52 (Pop-up)

toe	Boyo "Boyo" by "toe"	Hear You	Topshelf	1:01:30 (Pop-up)
JOBS	A Path "A Path" by "JOBS"	Log on for the Free Chance to Log on for Free	Ramp Local	1:05:45 (Pop-up)
Sparkling Wide Pressure	Glass Symbols	Fake Spells	Adversary	1:13:38 (Pop-up)
Nestle	Evergreen "Evergreen" by "Nestle"	Hoffman Estates	Shinkoyo / Artist Pool	1:17:49 (Pop-up)
Frantz Loriot	while whirling "while whirling" by "Frantz Loriot"	While Whirling	Thin Wrist	1:25:15 (Pop-up)
Lia Kohl	Deliver It Back "Deliver It Back" by "Lia Kohl"	Too Small to be a Plain	Shinkoyo / Artist Pool	1:27:22 (Pop-up)
Damsel Elysium	Echoes of Laila "Echoes of Laila" by "Damsel Elysium"	The Hearing Experience	SA	1:31:56 (Pop-up)

Jim Black Trio	High "High" by "Jim Black Trio"	The Constant	Intakt	1:42:26 (Pop-up)
Michael Bisio Quartet	I Fall In Love Too Easily	MBefore	TAO Forms	1:46:32 (Pop-up)
Cannonball Adderley Sextet	Lillie	Jazz Workshop Revisited	Riverside	1:55:28 (Pop-up)
Marcel Khalife	Promises of the Storm	Promises of the Storm	Paredon	2:00:15 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 10:03pm WR: Que queres?
	10:05pm chresti: Hi Sam and staring horse animals!
	10:05pm Sam Segal: Hola, WR!
	10:05pm northguineahills: it's kind of hard for horses to stare when they have monocular vision.
	10:06pm Sam Segal: Chresti! Thank you for focusing your ears' gaze in this internet radio direction.
	10:06pm Gary via app: Sounding good!
	10:06pm Sam Segal: Don't underestimate the telescopic power of horses' vision, NGH!
	10:07pm Sam Segal: Gary! Let us know if you need any help escaping from that app.
	10:07pm TDK60: Hi Sam.
	10:07pm _Ike_: Are you on? Is this you? Is that you? Where am I?
	10:07pm northguineahills: Hilltop Auto Parts is still there in the Bronx....
	10:08pm zzz: tis the season for cumbia. what’s up folks
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam and animals
	10:10pm Sam Segal: Buenos noches, Ike, TDK, zzz, and Coel!
	10:11pm _Ike_: Oh I see what happened -- my internet momentarily went kablooey and my VLC skipped over to Sheena's somehow.
	10:12pm zzz: @northguinea your knowledge of BX is very impressive to me, a bx dweller. i finally had some time to head out to Moodie’s records last weekend on a sunday, a shortish drive from me, but it was closed
	10:12pm Gary via app: Thanks, I’m perfectly appy here
	10:12pm coelacanth∅: little-known fact: horses have another pair of eyes located within their nostrils. it's really really true.
	10:13pm headcleaner: Now that's a road that goes places
	10:14pm Gary via app: Math skiillz!
	10:15pm coelacanth∅: ~!K∑~ my vlc kablooed also (but went to nothing)
	10:15pm northguineahills: @zzz: It's mainly due to mapping the Bronx w/ different City and Federal agencies, but also due to meeting at different locations in the Bronx. (I still know the Bronx less then any other boro save SI).
	10:16pm northguineahills: I'm so used to losing interwebs, I just keep on refreshing...
	10:16pm headcleaner: As for your trilled Rs, Sam -- just pretend your tongue is a wet towel that you're whipping at your enemies
	10:18pm Gary via app: If you can make a cat purring sound you can roll your Rs
	10:18pm TDK60: You need a muffin to help you roll those double castillano "rr"s. ... Just kiddin.'
	10:18pm Sam Segal: Good trick, headcleaner! Take my tongue back to the junior high locker room!
	10:19pm Sam Segal: @gary, maybe I'll just get my cats to roll my Rs for me.
	10:19pm northguineahills: the closest advice I have is try to make an "L" but actually make an ""R". After a while it will subconsciously trill....
	10:21pm zzz: monyaka sounded great. new to me. love NYC reggae from the '80s. ive been obsessed with wackies showcase releases the past few weeks
	10:21pm coelacanth∅: so is boston road in the bronx a limited-access elevated direct line to boston,ma -with no speed limit and a cinnabon/whackdonalds/sbarro pizza evey 65 miles? and is it called bronx rd once you get closer to boston?!
	10:22pm Sam Segal: Maybe I'll practice my horrible unrollable Rs during the next mic break.
	10:23pm northguineahills: @coel: it does have controlled access as in the center and road access on the periphery. It used to be the road that went to Boston in the 19th c.
	10:25pm doctorjazz: Hey Sam and Horsemen (and Horsewomen out there as well)!
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: i knew it! -sort of. ... i guess boston and the bronx are not that far from each-other,after all. maybe 200 miles? (really wild guess)
	10:26pm northguineahills: @dr jazz: horsefolk also works....
	10:27pm northguineahills: @coel: you hit the nail on the head!
	10:28pm Sam Segal: Doc! Jealous of your FMU apron.
	10:29pm coelacanth∅: what, 200 miles? really?! maybe sometimes i don't completely suck at everything. ...i always think of boston as far away but it's not so far.
	10:31pm northguineahills: @coel: it's just traffic far...
	10:31pm northguineahills: (I've only made the drive once)
	10:32pm doctorjazz: Swag just came a few days ago, haven't gotten to your premium CD yet but really looking forward to hearing it (right up my alley)!
	10:34pm chresti: Ready for kitchen surgery, doc!
	10:34pm northguineahills: I had to download my swag cds, as I don't have access to cd players that play cdrs (my laptop only plays cds)
	10:35pm coelacanth∅: true ngh. i have driven to boston a few times from stamford ct, a few years ago. timing is everything.
	10:38pm zzz: o'hagan sounding a lot like o'rourke here
	10:39pm doctorjazz: Been cooking up a storm, chresti!
	10:39pm doctorjazz: I though the O'Hagan was some long lost Beach Boys I missed.
	10:40pm northguineahills: @drjazz: Sean O'Hagan is behind the High Llamas (very BBesque)
	10:41pm Sam Segal: Definitely, zzz. Sean O'Hagan played with Stereolab a lot. O'Rourke produced my favorite Stereolab album (Sound-Dust). Jim was actually on the previous track by Kahimi Karie.
	10:41pm doctorjazz: Ahhh, thanks ngh, one of those blind spots in my music knowledge.
	10:41pm northguineahills: I didn't get into Flo & Eddie until 5 years ago....
	10:42pm Sam Segal: I discovered Flo & Eddie via Matt Warwick's show on WFMU!
	10:42pm doctorjazz: Saw Flo and Eddie (centuries ago) at the old Bottom Line, NYC, fun show (if I can remember that far back).
	10:42pm northguineahills: @Sam: I believe that was the case w/ me....
	10:43pm northguineahills: Oh, and just b/c, O'Hagan is frequently in Stereolab...
	10:45pm zzz: love this silver jews track
	10:45pm northguineahills: nice, the silver jews!
	10:45pm doctorjazz: The Silver Jews I first heard here, love the band (and this track)!
	10:45pm coelacanth∅: i don't know how but i learned of flo & eddie pretty early; but i can't say i ever got into them. stereolab, on the other hand, though i knew of early, i got into very late. in fact sound-dust was my first 'lab album. didn't know of the convoluted connection, either
	10:46pm zzz: flo and eddie always makes me think of them squealing and goofing around with the zappa early 70s band.
	10:47pm coelacanth∅: (and i did look to see if Sean O'Hagan was the beach boys)
	10:49pm northguineahills: @coel: I discovered Stereolab in '94 and they immediately became my favorite pop band...
	10:50pm zzz: stereolab is the BEST. have tickets to see them in october cant wait
	10:52pm northguineahills: I've seen Stereolab 11 times, and I'm so jealous of zzz....
	10:53pm northguineahills: I have seen Pierre Bastien 'live' w/ his machines...
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: ngh i knew of stereolab probably almost from their beginning but i confess it was several years before it clicked for me
	10:56pm Sam Segal: @zzz, you should show up for the opener at Stereolab. Fievel Is Glauque. I've played them a lot on the show. I really like them.
	10:57pm northguineahills: In Atlanta in '99, Stereolab and Sonic Youth played the same bill (great show).
	10:58pm doctorjazz: Still waiting for Stereolab to click, I know I SHOULD be into them...
	10:58pm doctorjazz: Do like this toe, though.
	10:59pm Sam Segal: If your toe clicks, Doc, you might want to seek medical treatment.
	10:59pm Dean: The FMU twitter feed has a link to a bit by Sasha Frere-Jones about Krautroick in which he compares the genre to Stereolab. It's clear to me that SF-J knows almost nothing about Krautrock. He seems to think it's this drifty, gauzy smear, hence he points only to bands like Harmonia, Neu, Cluster, not once mentioning genuine Krautrock pioneers like Jane, Kraan, Tomorrow's Gift, etc. One shout-out to Guru Guru. Grobschnitt? Nothing. Anyway, I don't like Stereolab.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: Sam a lot of bands/artists i think got better and better, then slipped...so if that high point was the end, for whatever reason, we could say they just got better and better. i think Tom Waits and Kate Bush fall into that category. and Nick Cave
	11:02pm Sam Segal: Dean! I can always count on you for a heterodox take.
	11:02pm Sam Segal: Where do you wish Tom Waits would've called it quits, Coel?
	11:02pm Dean: That's a good thing, right?
	11:03pm Sam Segal: Definitely a good thing.
	11:03pm coelacanth∅: there's no remedy for not liking stereolab, doctor. treatment centers on making the afflicted comfortable. sometimes it resolves spontaneously.
	11:05pm Dean: Trust me, I know well that there is no remedy for not liking Stereolab.
	11:06pm coelacanth∅: Sam i don't know. maybe Waits is still getting better; it all started sounding recycled to me though and i stopped paying attention. but i can barely tolerate some of his early stuff. also Nick Cave - i haven't heard his latest. maybe he's still getting better.
	11:08pm Sam Segal: I'm not a super close listener to Nick Cave, but I did really like the Skeleton Tree album from 2016.
	11:08pm Dean: Waits is a real question. I think I agree with coel. At some point he lost the fire. I might home in on Frank's Wild Years, perhaps the latest one I enjoy. I love his early stuff. I've never understood the admiration of Nick Cave, whom I find pretentious.
	11:09pm Sam Segal: My favorite Waits album is late-period. Mule Variations from 1999.
	11:09pm chresti: You got any drifty, gauzy smear music?
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: i'll say, in any case, and possibly for no one's benefit, that peng! (the first album) is my favorite stereolab album.
	11:11pm Sam Segal: @chresti, I feel like the Sparkling Wide Pressure may have fit your description.
	11:11pm ~!K∑~: Drifty and smeary? Like my brain?
	11:11pm doctorjazz: I'm also in agreement on Waits, really liked his early stuff, liked when he started to "take it out", but it also started losing my interest after a short while. Stereolab is one of those bands where I feel like I SHOULD like them, I'm missing something, not appreciating something I should get (old Jewish guilt flaring up). Radiohead affects me the same way; hip, feel like I should appreciate them, have 2 albums, just never did it for me. N-E-S-T-L-E-S, Nestles is the very best...
	11:12pm northguineahills: That was the SF-J article that came out in the 90s, right? If so, (I can't remember which rag I read it in), it was really my only touchstone to Krautrock, until I was able to really start finding other krautrock recs on my own around 2000. TBH, Stereolab only has one (17 min) track that be considered a simulacrum to krautock.
	11:13pm northguineahills: until 2000, the only recs I could find were cluster and neu!
	11:13pm coelacanth∅: i really like from swordfishtrombones all the way through mule variations, though i think the latter has some filler
	11:13pm zzz: nothing tops Rain Dogs for me, but i am far from a Waits expert.
	11:14pm doctorjazz: Liked Swordfishtrombones as well...
	11:14pm Dean: We're making progress here. Mule Variations was the moment when I started to doubt. My touchstone to Krautrock was c.'76, a buddy in high school who bought tons of it. I borrowed it all. For me one of the pinnacles of German progressive rock is Epitaph. Nobody mentions them these days. Yeah, Rain Dogs...killer album.
	11:14pm zzz: Alice / Blood Money i also really liked.
	11:15pm coelacanth∅: haha, doc - it is decidedly NOT hip to like radiohead in wfmuland!
	11:15pm doctorjazz: I missed Krautrock until Flash Strap ran a few good features on it, got the Brain Box and some other albums to catch up.
	11:15pm Dean: I'm not Jewish by any stretch, but I suffer from the same guilt, doctorjazz. "Maybe I'm ... [gasp] ... wrong!"
	11:16pm Dean: Played tracks from the Brain Box just last night! We're nothing if not predictable around here.
	11:17pm coelacanth∅: doc, i think if you don't like stereolab, then you shouldn't like stereolab!
	11:17pm doctorjazz: Dean will object, but this Evergreen is quite a trip over headphones (which is the only way to listen this late in Chez Doctorjazz).
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: ...my list of artists i don't care for that are fashionable to rave about on these here comments boards is probably 20-long!
	11:18pm doctorjazz: Of course, Coela, but there's that nagging feeling that there's something great that's just not clicking in for me (that happens-I remember starting to listen to jazz, got Dizzy Gillespie in an instant, didn't get Charlie Parker right away, took a bit of listening to realize he was IT)
	11:20pm coelacanth∅: heh, and maybe it's true! but then, think of all the tons of artists you do like - so many of which so many other people don't get
	11:20pm Dean: I don't object, doc, except that I'll never know how trippy it is over headphones. By the way, a close friend whom I hadn't seen for a long time stayed with us two weekends ago. I played CDs and LPs for him, because that's what we did way back in the day. He was blown away by the stereo setup: wide separation, transparent aural "view" to the instruments. Made my day.
	11:20pm doctorjazz: (and lots of Phil Schapp's Bird Flight)
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: ...of course, this doesn't apply to me because i've thoroughly examined everything and my opinion is correct and final
	11:23pm northguineahills: I haven't used my stereo setup since i was in Brooklyn.... (i'll need to rectify that...when I'm back in Brooklyn).
	11:23pm doctorjazz: When my wife first came to my bachelor apartment, Dean, and I played some music from what was then my beginning audiophile system, she made some comment, something about being able to see/hear where all the musicians were. That was either brilliant on her part, or Kismet (of course, she had no idea of what she was getting into).
	11:25pm doctorjazz: ngh, you going back to Brooklyn? (I've been in New Jersey for 25 years, still feel like a Brooklynite).
	11:26pm Dean: I say it was brilliant, a frank observation about technology that I certainly wasn't prepared to make until I'd been tutored.
	11:26pm Sam Segal: This one is trippy through headphones.
	11:27pm northguineahills: @drjazz: If all goes well. I should be healthy enough to start working again in November, then I need to save money to get back to where I belong, so, summer 2023 is my goal (i was functionally blind until 3 weeks ago, and only had two working eyes as of 7 hours ago).
	11:28pm coelacanth∅: and by the way, dr.j, i'm fairly certain i still don't "get" Bird. i like him; and occasionally i'm in awe of the subtleties of his playing...but i don't think i'm seeing the whole picture.
	11:31pm coelacanth∅: nestle didn't taste watered-down to me Sam
	11:32pm doctorjazz: NGH, that's great! Good luck with it all! Coela, listened to a ton of Bird-I can sing many of his solos note for note (that's lots of listening). I took jazz guitar lessons for a while (I was a bit older-there was no way I had the time to practice enough to master it, gave up after about a year). But, even my less than half speed attempts to play Bird transcribed solos during that time also gave me much appreciation.
	11:35pm doctorjazz: My schedule has changed, up early in the morning, will have to take my leave now. Loved the tunes, Sam, night all! (sounds like I'll have to catch the end in the archives tomorrow...)
	11:35pm northguineahills: night, dr jazz!
	11:35pm doctorjazz: Ooooo, such a nice beginning...
	11:36pm doctorjazz: OK, gotta go, laters all!
	11:36pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc! Hope the enticement of Jim Black doesn't keep you from your slumber.
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: doctor i've got many hours' worth of listening to Bird's finest recordings, Thanks to you...just... time
	11:36pm coelacanth∅: 'night dr. j
	11:37pm Sam Segal: @NGH, best of luck on the journey back to Brooklyn. Glad we'll have you back out here sooner or later!
	11:37pm Dean: Heard Jim Black at a tiny bar in Albany, just north of Berkeley, not too many years ago. Prior to that I'm pretty sure he was the drummer for Don Byron with Uri Caine at an outdoor show at Skirball Center in Los Angeles.
	11:40pm Sam Segal: Don Byron, Uri Caine, and Jim Black...very nice. I saw JB duo with Nels Cline once, which was pretty great.
	11:42pm northguineahills: I usually stay up late as it's my only course to retain my sanity in my current abode , sleep be damned. I read while woofmooing, then watch something on my laptop. I get up at 4:30 to exercise then eat. I might sneak a two hour nap in. Every three days I try to get at least 506 hours of sleep. (probably why I slept 12-14 hrs when I was quarentined).
	11:44pm northguineahills: errr, 5-6 hours of sleep every 3 days.
	11:45pm Sam Segal: What's your exercise routine entail, NGH?
	11:49pm northguineahills: Mostly stretching, working on abs, back, and upper body, and squats. I'm not someone who usually cares about how I look, but after the scare I had last fall, I need to take care of my body. Luckily, there are some residual signs of the footie player I used to be....
	11:51pm Sam Segal: I could use more of all that.
	11:53pm northguineahills: Last January I was a grotesquerie, now I look like a normal human.
	11:56pm northguineahills: merci, sam, bonne nuit!
	11:57pm Sam Segal: Thank you for being here, NGH!
	🥁 12:00am WR: Thank you, Sam. Onward.
	12:00am caroline from atlanta: great stuff sam, ty!
	12:01am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! g'night y'all
	12:02am zzz: thx for a great show SS
	12:03am chresti: Thanks Sam!
	9:28am doctorjazz: Just got to listen to the last set, great! (My Thursday work hours changed, now up at 6). Listening to Radical Jewish Music now, terrific collection! Thanks, Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from July 6, 2022

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