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Favoriting November 30, 2022: Folk
Acid folk, folk rock, psychedelic folk, folk experimentation, neo folk, and more

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Music behind DJ:
Bodega Pop 

Intro   Favoriting

Bodega Pop 

2022 

0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Bert Jansch  Reynardine   Favoriting Rosemary Lane  1971  0:03:47 (Pop-up)
Reilly & Maloney  Wildman   Favoriting At Last  1976  0:09:32 (Pop-up)
Darius  Mist-Veiled Garden   Favoriting Darius  1969  0:15:11 (Pop-up)
Ceathrar  Faoilean   Favoriting Cornufolkia: A Hidden History of Psychedelic-Folk from the British & Emerald Isles  2013  0:17:58 (Pop-up)
Richie Havens  Babe, I'm Leaving   Favoriting Richie Havens' Record  1968  0:20:15 (Pop-up)
Emily Portman  Spine of a Wave   Favoriting Weirdlore: Notes from the Folk Underground  2012  0:24:37 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
The West African Instrumental Quintet 

Adersu - No 2   Favoriting

Living Is Hard: West African Music in Britain, 1927-1929 

2008 

0:28:01 (Pop-up)
Yoshiko Sai 佐井好子  Drunken Drama 酔ひどれ芝居   Favoriting Kaleidoscope 萬花鏡  1975  0:32:21 (Pop-up)
Yoshiko Sai 佐井好子  Drifting Boat 漂流船   Favoriting Stowaway 密航  1976  0:38:06 (Pop-up)
Yoshiko Sai 佐井好子  God of Confusion 迷いの神   Favoriting Takuramakan タクラマカン  2008  0:44:43 (Pop-up)
Yoshiko Sai 佐井好子  Silence of the Sea 海の沈黙   Favoriting Fetal Dream 胎児の夢  1977  0:49:35 (Pop-up)
Yoshiko Sai 佐井好子  God Lives in that Blue Sky あの青い空には神様がすんでいる   Favoriting Room Where Butterflies Live 蝶のすむ部屋  1978  0:53:49 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Pippo Racho et Son Grand Orchestre 

La Cumparsita   Favoriting

Tangos 1 

 

0:58:00 (Pop-up)
Dando Shaft  Rain   Favoriting An Evening with Dando Shaft  1970  1:01:05 (Pop-up)
Kathy & Carol  Green Rocky Road   Favoriting Kathy & Carol  1965  1:06:20 (Pop-up)
Kieran White  Hummingbirds   Favoriting Wayfaring Strangers: Lonesome Heroes  2009  1:08:41 (Pop-up)
Vincent Le Masne et Bertrand Porquet  Dérive   Favoriting Guitares Dérive  1976  1:11:55 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Kemal Tanriverdi 

Aman Karpouz Kestim Yiyen Yok   Favoriting

Turkish Folk Music Instrumentals, Vol. 1 - Traditional Turkish Folk Instruments 

2005 

1:30:46 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  Something on Your Mind   Favoriting In My Own Time  1971  1:34:33 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  Reason to Believe   Favoriting 1966  2012  1:38:12 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  Green Rocky Road   Favoriting Green Rocky Road  2008  1:40:20 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  Trouble in Mind   Favoriting Shuckin' Sugar  2022  1:44:11 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  In The Evening (It's So Hard To Tell Who's Going To Love You The Best)   Favoriting It's So hard to Tell Who's Going to Love You the Best  1969  1:48:12 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  It's Alright   Favoriting Cotton Eyed Joe  2007  1:52:26 (Pop-up)
Karen Dalton  In My Own Dream (Alternate Take)   Favoriting In My Own Time (50th Anniversary Edition)  2021  1:58:08 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Andrey Vinogradov 

Naigrysh Na Koliuk   Favoriting

Russian Instrumental Folk Music 

2009 

2:03:30 (Pop-up)
Tir Na Nog  Picadilly   Favoriting Tir Na Nog  1971  2:08:33 (Pop-up)
Jack Grunsky  I'll Live My Life Just Loving You   Favoriting My Ship  1968  2:14:14 (Pop-up)
Michele  Lament of the Astro Cowboy   Favoriting Saturn Rings  1969  2:18:05 (Pop-up)
Valda  Some Say (I Got Devil)   Favoriting Knotweed - Twisted-Folk Roots & Psychedelic Shoots  2020  2:26:30 (Pop-up)
The Brothers Briggs  Reynardine   Favoriting The Brothers Briggs  2017  2:29:46 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Abrew’s Portuguese Instrumental Trio 

Valsa Continental   Favoriting

Excavated Shellac: An Alternate History of the World's Music 

2020 

2:32:22 (Pop-up)
Mandi & Sorocabinha  I Dreamt I Had Died   Favoriting River of Revenge: Brazilian Country Music 1929-1961, Vol. 1  2022  2:36:45 (Pop-up)
Ray and Archie Fisher  The Twa Corbies   Favoriting Far Over the Forth  2019  2:39:14 (Pop-up)
Anne Briggs  Young Tambling   Favoriting Anne Briggs  1971  2:41:30 (Pop-up)
Randy Denison  Soft Spoken Words   Favoriting Randy Denison's Collage  1970  2:51:47 (Pop-up)
Justine  Traveller   Favoriting Justine  1970  2:54:34 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Catrina Peslaru 

Hei La Bodega   Favoriting

Hei La Bodega - Carnaval! 

2000 

2:57:11 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
WR:

Folk!
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Gary:

WR!
  7:01pm
peter:

Hey Gary & co.!
  7:02pm
listener James from Westwood:

Evening, Gary and Bodegans!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
doctorjazz:

Hello Gary, Bodega Cyber-Shoppers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
Gary:

Peter, James, and Dr. Jazz!
  7:05pm
wezno:

Aloha
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
chresti:

Hi Gary Folk bodega!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
Gary:

Wezno! Chresti!
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 7:07pm
WR:

No shame, there are always more recordings that we have yet to hear. In fact they are being released faster and in greater quantities than any single set of ears could ever listen. Oh, you hadn't listened to Bert Jansch before? How could that be?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:08pm
doctorjazz:

Beautiful Bert! (He could really play that guitar, not a pre-requisite for a folk musician).
Avatar 7:08pm
northguineahills:

Listener, David from London, can elucidate on reynardine. his band, Daona, did a nice eerily folk/synth cover of it. daona.bandcamp.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:09pm
Gary:

NGH!
Avatar 7:11pm
northguineahills:

reynardine is a 'werefox'(?)(not sure of the terminologuy), that seduces young women, usually to a castle. The reynardine is usually someone who has had a spell cast of him as curse...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:12pm
Gary:

Ah, that would explain why I kept finding that title with different songs
  7:12pm
rw:

Ah It's Bodega Pop: Folk! I thought maybe I was in the wrong place. Sounding perfect so far.
  7:13pm
rw:

Good afternoon/evening!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:14pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Gary - a little folk gig in the back of the Bodega, then.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:14pm
Gary:

RW! Yeah, not a typical evening here, I suppose ... howdy, Henry!
  7:16pm
rw:

That cigarette looks out of scale to me. Maybe it's not a cigarette.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 7:16pm
chresti:

Good afterning, rw!
  7:16pm
rw:

Yo chresti!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:18pm
Gary:

RW: You're right, I never noticed that before, RW
Avatar 7:20pm
TDK60:

Gary, Hiya!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:20pm
Gary:

TDK60!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:22pm
Franco Twinkie:

Hi Gary! Quicksilver did this too.
Avatar 7:22pm
northguineahills:

ceathrar just means a quartet in irish-gaelic...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
Gary:

Franco! I did not know that
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
Franco Twinkie:

Of course they rock it up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:24pm
Gary:

When I saw Woodstock the first time, what I remembered most vividly was Richie Havens. I learned in a documentary decades later that he made that song, "Freedom," up on the spot -- unreal
Avatar 7:25pm
TDK60:

Gary, I mentioned elsewhere in woofmooland before, I saw Richie during his debut period, Cafe Au Go Go, '66. Intensity in the first row.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:26pm
Franco Twinkie:

Apparently Richie was quite the man around the village back in the day. Musically AND socially.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:26pm
Webhamster Henry:

@Gary not only that, he was put on because the band that was supposed to go on wasn't there (or ready or something) and he had to throw a show together for a few hours.
Avatar 7:27pm
TDK60:

Hola Franco.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
Gary:

Yes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
Gary:

Damn, jealous, TDK
Avatar 7:29pm
northguineahills:

ok, now, we need a scene devoted fanatics of old folk balladry, as found in the cecil sharpe house. we can call these bands, hardlore....
  7:30pm
peter:

@NGH: yeah! i looked them up quickly and found this: "Their recording "Faoileán" was released in 1975 as a split single on Gael-Linn under the four members' individual names (Donal Lunny, Maighréad Ní Dhomhnaill, Mícheál Ó Domhnaill, Tríona Ní Dhomhnaill).. On later compilations it appeared with the artist name Ceathrar." so members of Planxty, The Bothy Band and others! bit of a super-group..
Avatar 7:31pm
DL in LA:

Bit of an ode to Shrunken Planet. Sounding great!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:33pm
Gary:

DL!
Avatar 7:33pm
northguineahills:

a book related to todays theme, that comes heavily recommended by me: "Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain's Visionary Music" (Rob Young, 2011) www.goodreads.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:34pm
Gary:

Nice, NGH. Pretty sure Rob Young also wrote a book on Turkish rock recently-ish
  7:35pm
peter:

Oo that looks worth a read for sure
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:37pm
Zipperhead7:

Gary and Bodegans! Nice picture of Karen Dalton. I wonder if the Woody Guthrie museum in Tulsa ever did an exhibit on her since she's a native Okie
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
Gary:

Zipperhead!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
Franco Twinkie:

Hey TDK! I'm in the kitchen now.
Avatar 7:41pm
northguineahills:

@Zipperhead: in 2000, i went to an association of america geographers conference, and attended a lecture on the geography of music in oklahoma (my one lecture not related to my studies i attended), they did a lot of the obvious ones, including woody and up to the flaming lips. I inquired amongst the lecturers why they hadn't included karen dalton, and gave them pleny of material off the top of my head to further their research...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:47pm
Zipperhead7:

That's interesting, ngh. When I went to the Georgia Music Hall of Fame in Macon many years ago, there was no mention of Gram Parsons. They did have a great picture of James Brown shaking hands with the Pope. James was very black and the Pope was very white
Avatar 7:56pm
DL in LA:

There are so many amazing Japanese music artists. I never realized this until the last few years.
Avatar 7:56pm
Ike:

Meat sweats!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:57pm
Gary:

Ike!
Avatar 7:57pm
northguineahills:

@zipperhead: *takes note of their respective dressing styles* Indeed!
Avatar 7:58pm
northguineahills:

I believe I've only heard Yoshiko Sai once or twice on wfmu, never encountered her in my own wonderings...
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Hey Folx !
  8:01pm
rw:

I always thought of Punk Rock as a type of Folk music.
  8:02pm
rw:

Knowing nothing about musicology. Not even if I'm using the word musicology correctly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:02pm
Gary:

RevRab!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:02pm
Gary:

RW, me too, and bedroom recordings
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:03pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Voice a bit like Bert Jansch.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:05pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Hello Gary! Hello friends!
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:05pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Wull - under Modernism in the 20thCentury - all the Genre Labels & boundaries kinda collapsed & melted & stuff ...Is Folk Traditional ? Or the common Music of the People ? What did that mean anymore with Recording & Reproductive Art & Mass Media ?? Was Dylan the apotheosis & saviour of Folk - or its Assassin ??...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:05pm
Gary:

Wendy!
Avatar 8:05pm
TDK60:

From my barstool, I like a lot of the different friggin' folks, folks. There's a whole freakin' lotta of 'em, come thru here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:06pm
Zipperhead7:

I like the haunting stuff too, Gary. A sparely-phrased electric guitar buried in reverb gets me every time. Peter Green was the master of that
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:06pm
chresti:

That is correct @Ike!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:07pm
Doug Schulkind:

Love this record. Otherwordly.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:07pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...if Folk is Traditional Music of the People - I even posit that plain prosaic Population Explosion has to be a factor there...
Avatar 8:07pm
northguineahills:

@rw: punk in the trad sense, is folk (in the traditional sense). Music for the people from 'untrained' (self-taught) musicians... Some trad types might argue some lyrical content, but folk always encompassed contemporary concerns, and can be often irreverent.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:08pm
chresti:

Freakin' Freak Folk freaks, TDK60\\//
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:08pm
Gary:

Doug! I'm thrilled about your upcoming trip
Avatar 8:08pm
TDK60:

Friggin' freaky chresti in the inn? How are ye?
Avatar 8:09pm
northguineahills:

...and then on the other side, you get cornelius cardew's "stockhausen serves imperialism", where cardem eschewed modern composition and tried to organize a more sing-along songs to reach the people w/ mixed results...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:09pm
Doug Schulkind:

@Gary
If I knew it'd thrill you, I would have gone long ago!
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Untrained. Good one. Self-trained - community trained... Have thot - Folk is whatever strangers who meet round a campfire on the beach sing together. (Does this even happen anymore ?) The Dead certainly quality for that I figured...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
Gary:

France, yes?
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

*qualiFy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
Gary:

Most music is folk music maybe
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:12pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Beethoven was Popular in his moment ? But not Karlheinz... Reminded of Howard Goodall's thing on TheBeatles as not only Thee Classical Music of the 1960s - but saviors of Western Harmony he practically gushes...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:12pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

This is excellent music for writing, which I am doing now. It seems like the things I do most often while listening to FMU are writing, cooking, and bathing. Then again, I do those things a lot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:13pm
Zipperhead7:

RevRab -- I'd say that for the last 20 years, the handful of times I've encountered kids sitting around playing acoustic guitars and singing, they were playing contemporary christian music
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:13pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Of course Thelonius said, 'We're all Folk Musicians.'
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:13pm
chresti:

I yam freakin' in the friggin' inn, TDK60.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:14pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Oof. Well - Folk Music & Religion both tribal expressions one might say...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:15pm
Doug Schulkind:

@Gary
Paris, yes. Haven't been to Paris since '86. Last time I was there almost all I did was scour the record stores. Came back with a suitcase full of African vinyls.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:16pm
Gary:

Damn, jealous! BTW: The baguette was recently declared a UNESCO something or other
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:17pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...like 'Pop' could mean either whatever is literally Popular, or certain Forms - 'Unpopular Pop' as Rob Weisnberg says ...so maybe something similar for Folk...
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:17pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

/ RobW - something similar...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:20pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Doug, do I even need to say it? I hope you eat a lot of really good cheeses that are illegal in the US!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:21pm
Zipperhead7:

And the good absinthe with wormwood!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:23pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

And lots of charcuterie! Unless you're a vegetarian, then... lots more cheese!
Avatar 8:23pm
TDK60:

Wonderful sounds of folkish tint, Gary. Glad I got my boot heels to be wanderin' this way tonight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:25pm
doctorjazz:

Lovely instrumentals!
(TDK60-them must be some Thirsty Boots...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:25pm
Doug Schulkind:

Illegal Cheese. Not a bad band name.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:25pm
Zipperhead7:

Jeez this is wonderful, Gary!
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:25pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...an Acoustic bent seems a Folk attribute - with an ever ambiguous relation to Electricity...
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:26pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...makes me think of Segovia perhaps as much as Woody Guthrie - no complaints...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:27pm
Zipperhead7:

Doug -- have PAULS add "Illegal Cheese" to the list of first band names!
Avatar 8:27pm
TDK60:

DrJazz, I got the Eric Andersen drop.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:27pm
chresti:

Which cheeses are illegal, Wendy?
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:28pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...illicit cheeses ...folking Christ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:28pm
Doug Schulkind:

Illegal Cheese. Not a bad radio show name.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:28pm
Doug Schulkind:

I believe in cheeses.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:29pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Honk if you love cheeses!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:29pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

yes, someone should name their show "Illegal Cheeses." But, the obvious person already has a name for her show, and if anyone else chose it, people would get confused. hahaha
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:30pm
chresti:

Honk!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:30pm
Gary:

My god it's a regular fondue in here
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:30pm
doctorjazz:

TDK60-couldn't leave your Dylan go unanswered...
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:31pm
chresti:

I think I saw a bumper sticker like "cheeses saves" or the like.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:31pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

..I'm fond of ue too Gary...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:32pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Chresti: All raw milk cheeses sold in the USA must be aged for 60+ days. In France and other places, one can enjoy raw milk cheeses that are aged fewer than 60 days, and it's really worth doing. Pasteurizing milk can diminish the nuance in the cheese's flavor profile.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:32pm
doctorjazz:

(I thought Wendy might have some thoughts/feeling on the Illegal Cheese suggestion).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:33pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

DoctorJazz: I have opinions on pretty much everything. :-)
I keep toying with the idea of starting a column called "Ask a Picky Jew." And it won't just be about cheese!
Avatar 8:33pm
northguineahills:

@wendy: so, a show of whey-infused of "unofficial" recordings (ie: the Partridge Family) (disclaimer: i actually like some cheesy music)
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:35pm
WR:

Ha, chresti, earlier today I saw a cartoon of two mice at the mouse hole of another mouse, one of the visiting mice says, "Can we talk with you about cheeses?"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:36pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

@NGH: Haha, that's an awesome idea! A show of bootlegs of 70s AM rock!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:36pm
doctorjazz:

As far as pastuerization-from the CDC web site:
Raw milk can carry dangerous bacteria such as Salmonella, E. coli, Listeria, Campylobacter, and others that cause foodborne illness, often called “food poisoning.”
(Though I'm not familiar with how long aging needs to be done to prevent disease)
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:37pm
chresti:

Ha, WR!
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:38pm
chresti:

Karen kills me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:38pm
Zipperhead7:

I wonder if any recordings Karen Dalton did with Peter Stampfel will ever surface?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:38pm
Gary:

The CDC also didn't want me to eat fresh vegetables or dairy or fruit juices in Brazil and they were WRONG
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:40pm
doctorjazz:

Maybe, Gary, though the fact that you didn't have an issue with it doesn't mean it's wrong (like saying if you didn't get COVID, and didn't have the vaccine, the recommendation for the vaccine is phony).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:42pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Oh no... DoctorJazz... here comes the can of worms... Those food-borne pathogens are FAR more prevalent in things like deli meats, produce, and eggs. And, there really is no actual science behind how long cheese must be aged to eliminate or identify pathogens. Listeria is the big one, and those outbreaks do happen, but they happen in pasteurized cheese, too. Pasteurization isn't a vaccine; it only kills whatever pathogens are present in that moment. Mishandling at any point in the distribution chain can introduce pathogens not present at all where the cheese is made or aged.
  8:42pm
fizz:

Smokin' a big spliff and serenading her Poppy plant friend.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:42pm
Gary:

Cheese Louise, Wendy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:43pm
Gary:

Fizz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:43pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

The 60-day rule is from the FDA, and sadly, a lot of FDA policy has been drafted for reasons other than food safety. But I should step down off my soap box now...
Avatar 8:43pm
northguineahills:

this is good music for creating imaginary cartographies (I'm taking maps from 1960s british university textbooks, and reshuffling the topographies/boundaries on my own whims).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:45pm
doctorjazz:

That's all true, Wendy. You can always reintroduce bacteria to a food by mishandling it. Again, it's a bit like saying that meat shouldn't be free of pathogens because they are often introduced by food preparer mishandlers. (I'm not familiar with how long aging needs to be done, and I'll certainly not insist that the FDA or other government bodies are free of political considerations).
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:45pm
chresti:

Thanks Wendy!
Avatar 8:46pm
TDK60:

Fizz, I was a-thinkin' that may be a small cigar in Karen's mouth, or maybe the French cig brand, Gualoises. Or, maybe a reefer, a folk cigarette.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:46pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Phew. These people who carry whole Cultures of Song within them. Walking Smithsonians.
Avatar 🇰🇷 Swag For Life Member 8:48pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Cut threw a fruit that has bacteria on the outside peel - you (potentially) introduce it to the interior with the knife. For instance. Yeah there's things...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:49pm
coelacanth∅:

'evening Gary & all
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Doctor Jazz: Aging is pretty much irrelevant until you get to the really hard cheeses, which are usually 2+ years old. Most of these pathogens are bacteria, which need moist environments to thrive. Very aged cheeses have too little moisture. But 60 days? Doesn't mean shit, really. It's arbitrary.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:49pm
Gary:

Coelacanth!
  8:50pm
fizz:

TDK60 could well be a french cig, callouses of the lung, nice poppy though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:51pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

I should clarify: Not only does 60 days not mean shit, but what's even more irrelevant (less relevant?) is whether the milk is pasteurized or not. Sorry, but people aren't dropping dead from cheese in the rest of the world, especially when the cheese is made in a licensed, inspected facility.
  8:56pm
fizz:

No chinga con el queso...
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doctorjazz:

I believe it's arbitrary, Wendy, there are many "accepted" practices and recommendations that were arrived at without study, only to be found later to be incorrect (10 day antibiotic treatment for many bacterial infections, for instance, was the norm for the longest time, until studies actually showed 3 or 5 days were fine for some bacterial infections (but no studies had been done before that).
Again, I'm just going by the teaching I had (many years back, but haven't read much to dispute it. But maybe I just haven't seen the relevant information. But immunization is like that-many diseases that existed before it was routine (and I saw them) don't occur any more, and people feel there's no need for them, since they don't see pneumococcal meningitis or polio any more.
That's enough out of me...
I'll drop out here.
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Zipperhead7:

Karen Dalton sounds ageless, somewhere between a young girl and an ancient, wizened woman
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northguineahills:

@fizz: jajaja
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TDK60:

This "Dream" a Paul Butterfield cover.
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Doctor Jazz: Thanks for your perspective. I didn't know that about antibiotics! FWIW, I am very much in favor of vaccines and I am all caught up on my shots. Including rabies and distemper. Okay, maybe not distemper... haha.
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fizz:

Zipperhead7, what was the title of the film you produced?
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Zipperhead7:

"Drop City." Here's the trailer: www.youtube.com...
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WR:

Juvenile DJ Gary
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Zipperhead7 looks great !!
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Zipperhead7:

I had a blast doing it and never made a fucking dime. Still good friends with the surviving founders
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fizz:

Zip was that in New Mexico in?
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Zipperhead7:

Just north of the NM border, near Trinidad CO
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Gary:

Footage in that trailer looks awesome
  9:12pm
fizz:

I'm guessing the early 1970's ?
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Zipperhead7:

1965-1973 or thereabouts. It was abandoned by the founders in '69 and by 74 was a ghost town
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northguineahills:

@zipperhead: will have to use my digital tentacles to find a copy somewhere...

looks to have followed a more innocent yet similar trajectory as the merry pranksters...
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Zipperhead7:

It's up on Kanopy for free. Yeah, very Pranksterish in ways
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fizz:

You can use your library card to watch Kanopy. Buckyball Town...must have gotten cold!
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chresti:

Wow Zipperhead!
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Zipperhead7:

At one point they built a small room in the
Complex that they could crowd into to keep warm
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Jeff Golick:

There is a lot going on here. Hello.
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fizz:

Great sounds from the Bodega Pop machina tonite Gary.
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Gary:

Jeff!
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Franco Twinkie:

Wow, Tir Na Nog. I saw them in 1972 at The Ashgrove. Opening for The Credibility Gap no less!
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Is this Bros. Briggs reminding anyone else of Pierre Bensusan?
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fizz:

destination: OUT in the house, hola Jeff.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Many of course were the Communes ...& yeah ! : interesting to consider the Pranksters in that context
...but what do I know of Communes ?? Not so much actually ! & a good analogy to Folk indeed...
...I suppose now we have Militias & CultCreeps ...easy to forget an era they might have been more ambiguous or actually ethical ...or not I dunno...
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Jeff Golick:

Hola, @fizz!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

If I knew Reynardine related to Woovz I forgot !
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...there's Julian Cope's Reynard the Fox ...another canine...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...' Reynardine is a werefox who attracts beautiful women so that he can take them away to his castle '... :
en.wikipedia.org...
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TDK60:

Reynardine is supposed to be hair raising, Gary. About a werefox, supposedly.
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fizz:

There Fox!!
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Doug Schulkind:

Hey, Zip, that looks wonderful. Gotta see it!
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Gary:

Oh, sorry kids, a wereFOX situation
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Of course, now I'm thinking of the scene in "Young Frankenstein."
"Werewolf!"
"There wolf. There castle."
"Igor, why are you talking like that?"
"I thought you wanted to."
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...all I really knew was Fairport's version of Reynardine is like being suspended in air.
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coelacanth∅:

i'd know this voice anywhere in a split second
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TDK60:

I think there were lots of versions of Reynardine. I recall long ago Buffy Sainte Marie did a version; she was doin' the freaky folky.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Anne yeah damn. Whatcha call Definitive.
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Franco Twinkie:

Yes, Anne.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...course so is YoungFrankenstein.
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Zipperhead7:

A classic song about werewolves: www.youtube.com...
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coelacanth∅:

Zipperhead that trailer's intriguing ...although i know the movie will be saddening
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northguineahills:

Anne Briggs!

(I could probably dj three hours of versions of tam lin (tambling) Look up all the ballads anthologized by francis james child en.wikipedia.org...
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northguineahills:

@Rec Rabbit: see my chat about reynardine at the beginning of the comments above...
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coelacanth∅:

it's a shame you can't dj 3 hours of Anne Briggs
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Gary:

Hey All! Stick around after this for Sam Segal's If You Lose Your Horse! He's back after a week off and boy are his hoofs tired. That didn't make sense. His show tonight is titled "A Horse Traveling Through Frame After Frame of Memory" and that DOES make sense. So does your catching it, 10PM, sharp, at: wfmu.org...
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northguineahills:

@coel: that would be hard....
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coelacanth∅:

(unless you've got some top secret bootlegs stashed away)
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northguineahills:

@coel: (exactly what I hope you were alluding to [unfortunately, neither of us do])
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fizz:

Thanks Gary. Good Evening Friends.
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doctorjazz:

Thankss, Gary!
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Thank you, Gary. It's always a pleasure.
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Gary:

Thank you all for spending a bit of your evening here!
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northguineahills:

thanks, Gary!
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Jeff Golick:

Another werewolf song (n.b. it WILL spoil the mood): www.youtube.com...
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chresti:

Thanks Gary!
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Jeff Golick:

Thanks, Gary!
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Franco Twinkie:

This was perfection on a Fall night, Gary. Thank you.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Wow.
~ TY Always DJ Gary ~
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Zipperhead7:

Thanx Baby DJ Gary! Or should that be DJ Gary, Baby!
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TDK60:

The show has been fine. Time to head on down the dusty lane. Thanks, Gary.
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Gary!
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Doug Schulkind:

Thanks, Gary!
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Gary:

Night everyone!
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WR:

Thank you, Gary! Based on my earlier comment and based on what you played that I had already heard, seems I am only up to 1971 regarding catching up with listening.
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