WFMU: It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 16, 2023

Listener comments!
	7:01pm Handy Haversack: It's go time! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
	7:01pm ultradamno: Dave! Comptrollers!
	7:01pm TDK60: How-do, DJ Dave!
	7:01pm ike-o: Peace
	7:02pm mic_a: Halloo, Dave and prog groggers.
	7:02pm dale: hey now.
	7:02pm Rob from Maryland: Good evening
	7:02pm Magenta: Good evening everyone!
	7:02pm bleubombersune: Dave Good Mpnday evening
	🤯 7:02pm HollyRT: Evening, Proggers
	7:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hooray! Hello Dave and friends.
	🤯 7:02pm Webhamster Henry: Records that even WFMU will play.... they occasionally show you at the sidewalk record sales.
	🤯 7:03pm chresti: Hi Dave complicated retirement record show!
	7:03pm TDK60: Oh I love this Sinfield album. I have an LP, very scartchy. Like the softer King Crimson stuff maybe.
	7:03pm dale: the kids' stuff can sometimes be good. but mostly crap. but if it's good it's derivitive of the basement records.
	7:04pm Tome: Hey Dave lovin' it ! <> !
	7:04pm Destroit: Hello Dave, Wendy, Handy and all the other nice people assembling.
	7:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Dave and complications!
	7:04pm mic_a: Yes, I see that I have that too. Yet I do not have Pere Ubu's Dub Housing. Sigh.
	7:04pm TDK60: ↳ TDK60 @7:03 ..don't worry, "scartchy" isn't a prog term, yet. -scratchy
	7:04pm Handy Haversack: Hey, Destroit!
	7:04pm luka: good evening
	7:05pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Destroit @7:04 Hello there, Destroit.
	7:05pm ultradamno: ↳ mic_a @7:04 That is not one to not have
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: Evening everyone! Thanks for being here.
	7:05pm Wendy del Formaggio: mmm... surface noise... I love it.
	7:06pm Coach32sm: Don't forget, Johny's in the basement mixing up the medicine Im on the pavement thinking bout the government
	7:06pm mic_a: At least I have "The Modern Dance".
	7:07pm Jackie G: Pete Sinfield. Where does he come up with these lyrics? Must be the water.
	7:07pm Coach32sm: Very, Very Crimson
	7:07pm Tome: didn't Pete Sinfield did lot of record covers too if I'm not totally gone by now
	7:07pm Dave Mandl: Hello Handy, ultradamno, TDK60, ike, mic_a, date, Rob, Magenta, Bleubombersune, Holly, Mlle Fromage, Henry, chresti, Tome, Destroit, Ken, luka, Coach, Jackie!
	7:08pm Chris Hiatt: Hello All. This is the proggiest prog that ever progged.
	7:08pm mic_a: Oh yes, I remember this one. Probably the proggiest track on the album. Is 'wimp prog' a subdivision? (no insult intended, but really, just listen)
	7:08pm dale: this is pretty sweet.
	7:08pm Coach32sm: Didn't he produce Roxy Music?
	7:09pm TDK60: Most of the K.C. band plus on this Sinfield.
	7:09pm dale: reminds me of octopus, the german octopus? there were a few octopusses....
	7:09pm Jackie G: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:05 Not surface noise. Dave has a fire going.
	7:09pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Tome @7:07 Hmmm, he may have done some cover art, yeah. Can't remember any details right now.
	7:09pm mic_a: Keith Tippet(s) on piano.
	7:10pm Handy Haversack: This was before sea goats were extinct.
	7:10pm Trimegistus: Thank the lord it’s not Richard Dawson. Enough for one day..
	7:10pm Chris Hiatt: Wetton AND Lake worked on this album!
	7:11pm feral parsnip: somehow getting deja vu to nick cave and leonard cohen songs. 'mercy seat?'
	7:11pm mic_a: "Cover concept & design" by Sinfield. Painting by Sulamith Wulfing.
	7:12pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:10 Right you are.
	7:12pm Wind: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:05 Hey Wendy :)
	7:14pm sydnius: love the filter sweeps
	7:14pm Dave Mandl: ↳ sydnius @7:14 :-)
	🤯 7:14pm TroyD8: ↳ Song: "Hairy Barber" by "Here and Now" Nice!
	7:14pm vizante: kanye did nothing wrong
	7:14pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jackie G @7:09 Haha. Or he's cooking bacon.
	7:14pm pot8o: hi everyone!
	7:15pm Destroit: Every week with this show….feels like a jump into the cold deep end of the swimming pool. Love it. An adventure i tell ya!
	7:15pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Wind @7:12 Howdy, Wind!
	7:15pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ TroyD8 @7:14 I agree!
	7:15pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Destroit @7:15 Thank you kindly, @Destroit.
	7:16pm Wind: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:07 I thought I didn't like prog but...it's complicated...
	7:16pm mic_a: There may be several genres from back in the day that were enabled by tape-echos.
	7:16pm Tome: I was thiking early King Crimson yes and all he did do lot of the album covers not sure about Yes though perhaps ..
	7:16pm Rob from Maryland: Ali babba, ali babba!!!
	7:17pm tim from washington: Long time listener, first time progger. I mean commenter. Thanks, Dave. You’re show is fantastic! I think Acid Mothers Temple took a lot of notes listening to Here and Now. Prog on everybody!
	7:17pm mic_a: @Tome - You may be thinking of Roger Dean?
	🤯 7:17pm G: I'm having the darnedest luck listening to this show live recently. Often, just listening in archive later. -- This week, Mary Ellen's kids are here as houseguests (currently debating dinner) because their dad died yesterday. I am listening low volume on the laptop...
	7:18pm Dave Mandl: @tim: Welcome! And thanks.
	7:18pm Rob from Maryland: The current portion of Hairy Barber sounds so much like the Planet Gong "Allez Ali Baba Black Sheep Have you Any Bullshit: Mama Maya Mantram" from the Floating Anarchy live 1997 album from Planet Gong
	7:18pm Tome: perhaps mic_a yes I'm just lovein' this now ) thanks )
	7:19pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:10 Not as popular as Sea-Monkeys.
	7:21pm Franco Twinkie: That brought to mind the first time someone described Hawkwind to me. Since it was 1975 and we were at work, no actual music was playing, so he did an interpretive dance I'll never forget.
	7:21pm mic_a: "Boz" also.
	7:21pm Tome: I 'm like thinkng that sorry .. for some reason , love the show Dave M.
	7:21pm Rob from Maryland: Dave et al., the wikipedia entry for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_%26_Now_(band) says "Gospel of Free (1976 to 1978. Released in 1999)"
	7:22pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:21 So it looks like it was recorded in the 70s?
	7:22pm Rick from SC: I just listened to the whole Still album. It didn’t hold up well. Had a nice cover though and some great musicians
	7:22pm P-90: From the “New Prog Bin”?
	7:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Song of the Sea Goat" by "Pete Sinfield" Saluting Pete & all the ♑︎Capricorn SeaGoatz ! www.facebook.com...
	7:23pm ultradamno: ...but can 'prog' mean as many different things as 'post-punk'?
	🤯 7:23pm chresti: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:10 Haha
	7:24pm Destroit: ↳ Franco Twinkie @7:21 Haha imagining legs and arms akimbo with pursed lips stank face
	7:24pm dale: witchwood has some great proggy moments when rick wakeman came on board.
	🤯 7:24pm chresti: LOL
	7:24pm P-90: “Prog” means more different things than anything
	7:24pm dday: Got any "Eloy" in the basement?
	🤯 7:25pm chresti: The hairy barber
	7:25pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Destroit @7:24 Droopy long hair and dirty Vans sneakers too!
	7:25pm mic_a: Got my curiosity up and found that Sinfield did the design, but not the art, for "Lizard"; and design AND art for "Islands". Otherwise, naught.
	7:25pm Dean: Somehow? Rick Wakeman joined them.
	7:25pm Coach32sm: Strawbs Oh yeah
	7:26pm Aitch: Progging quietly in the corner here
	7:26pm ultradamno: I'm sorry, I've seen 2 Tone lumped in with 'post-punk', no label covers more ground to the point of meaninglessness
	7:26pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dday @7:24 @dday: I'll play Eloy at some point, yeah.
	🤯 7:26pm chresti: The song of the hairy ghost
	7:26pm Dean: Prog was rock's stretch toward classical/symphonic. Not that hard.
	7:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...This Way to the Prawgress...
	7:26pm dday: Got to see Strawbs twice..Hero & Heroine & Ghosts tours. Fantastic shows!
	7:27pm dday: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:26 Ocean is a good disc
	7:27pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: Moundrag sound like they're straight outta 1975. Not a complaint.
	7:28pm Mhinca: Dave, SO GLAD to hear you back again. LOVE the Strawbs, one of my all time faves. Thanks!!
	7:28pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:21 @Rob: Ah, thanks. I knew it was released in 1999, but that makes sense.
	🤯 7:28pm chresti: Mound rages
	7:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: This has Strawbs members? I missed the gist.
	7:29pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dday @7:26 @dday: Holy cow.
	7:29pm ultradamno: Also, there are so many 'Sarah's in the world that it has become a meaningless label.
	7:29pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:29 @RRN63: No, this is a new group.
	7:30pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Mhinca @7:28 @Mhinca: Thanks. <3
	7:30pm Jackie G: ↳ Coach32sm @7:25 What about The Strawbs?!
	7:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...que sarah sarah...
	7:30pm Coach32sm: I always felt that Dave Cousins was as difficult to be a band member of/with as Ian Anderson was. band members always leaving. Saw them a few times too, not great live but one of my all time fav bands each new musical branch, starting with Sandy Denny etc
	7:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Hangman" by "Moundrag" GeddyLee-ish ...I still like it.
	7:30pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "The Hangman" by "Moundrag" Loving this. Freshly squeezed prog. These two guys are putting out a lot of sound, I bet it's a great live show!
	7:31pm Jackie G: ↳ Mhinca @7:28 Yeah! The Strawbs!
	7:31pm François: Great show!! Thanks for giving some love to prog! I'd love it if you could play the following track by French band Arrakeen. They opened for Marillion on their 1990 tour. Great and unique forgotten band. Miss them. Thanks!! https://youtu.be/lg5GPQ_H_aA
	7:31pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Coach32sm @7:30 Joe McGasko interviewed Cousins a while back here on FMU. He was...a funny guy.
	7:32pm Whosondephone: Yeah Baby!
	7:33pm Dave Mandl: ↳ François @7:31 @François: Noted, thanks!
	7:33pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Thank you!!
	7:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Every time I hear Strawbs I wanna know more.
	7:35pm Ciggy: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Wow It's been decades
	7:36pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" The music & voices are all around us
	7:36pm Dave Mandl: This Strawbs stuff is totally over the top but so good.
	7:36pm dale: dave cousins was in beacon a number of years ago and i kick myself for not going.
	7:37pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:28 I was investigating because "Hairy Barber" sounded so much like a demo version of that Planet Gong song "Allez Ali Baba Black Sheep [etc.]" Thank you for playing Here and Now!
	7:37pm dale: is any amazing blondel considered prog? would love to hear them here...
	7:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Have thot of Strawbs as Anglo FolkRawk - not an awful lot of Folk this one !
	7:38pm Destroit: Did Straws ever have a “hit”?
	7:38pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" It has a glammy sheen to it.
	7:38pm Coach32sm: Saw the Beacon Show!!!
	7:38pm Mhinca: Rev Rabbits check out strawbs albums Bursting at the Seams; Hero & Heroine; Ghosts; & NoMadness. Great little-known mostly prog music. You won't be disappointed
	7:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Mhinca @7:38 Thx
	7:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Dave Cousins wigkey for catch-up : en.wikipedia.org...
	7:39pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" This sounds sort of like Genesis
	7:39pm Ciggy: My favorite is Down by the Sea
	7:39pm Coach32sm: Unfortunately "Part of the Union" was a hit not their best work
	7:39pm Jackie G: An acoustic versin of The Strawbs played at a little theatre in Boonton, NJ some time ago. The two Daves and Chas Cronk. So very good. They hung out after the show . A fine evening in Boonton, NJ
	7:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Wondering if BevisFrond are into Strawbs...
	7:40pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Destroit @7:38 "Part Of The Union" was like #1 in Britain in early 1973
	7:40pm dale: ↳ Destroit @7:38 'lay down' was a hit in the uk. pete fornatele always played it on mixed bag around the holidays.
	7:40pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" It’s good to see the sun again- if you know what I mean
	7:40pm Jackie G: ↳ Destroit @7:38 Lay Down
	7:41pm Mhinca: Destroit -closest to 'hits' were Part of the Union and Hero & Heroine
	7:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:39 Not a million miles is it.
	7:41pm Coach32sm: I think "Lay Down" was a little bit of a "hit" too
	7:41pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:40 Sorry, #2 (according to wikipedia)
	7:41pm dday: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" In the world of "strange double bills" one of the Strawbs shows I saw was supposed to be them supporting The Average White Band. AWB bowed out & I don't recall if there was an opener or not. The other show was openers Bonnie Bramlett & Pretty Things (circa Silk Torpedo)
	7:42pm dale: ↳ Coach32sm @7:38 you had more sense to go than i did.
	7:42pm dday: ↳ Mhinca @7:41 Little Sleepy from Nomadness had potential as a "single" but the LP as whole was ignored by radio
	7:43pm Jackie G: ↳ dday @7:41 Was Foghat on the bill at one of your Strawbs shows?
	7:43pm Wendy del Formaggio: That Strawbs was effin' awesome. I have one big problem with it, though, which may preclude me from playing it on my show: I can't stand their name. Dunno why. But even reading it, let alone hearing it or saying it, makes my skin crawl. Any suggestions, friends?
	7:43pm Coach32sm: I saw Strawbs with Fought as top bill and the audience kept screaming "FOGHAT" during Strawbs set!!!!
	7:43pm dday: ↳ Jackie G @7:39 The duo of Hudson & Ford (former Strawbs members) were doing shows in NJ for awhile a few years back
	7:44pm François: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:33 Thank you so much, Dave! Keep it up!!
	7:44pm Fragonard: Yay us!
	7:44pm Jackie G: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:43 Its short for The Strawberry Hill Boys. I think
	7:44pm Destroit: Thanks gang. Amazingly, i had never heard of Strawbs. Again, deep end of the pool! My prog knowledge is D+ at best. Maybe D- haha
	7:44pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:43 Think of them as the Strawb that stirs the drink?
	7:45pm Mhinca: Wendy well you could always refer to them by their orig name, "the strawberry Hill Boys"
	7:45pm Jackie G: ↳ Coach32sm @7:43 I was there . I think
	7:45pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jackie G @7:44 Ahh, that could work.
	7:45pm dale: ↳ Destroit @7:44 morning has broken.
	7:45pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:44 Hmm, another good idea. Thanks!
	7:46pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Mhinca @7:45 I think that's the solution. Thank you!
	7:46pm dday: Sounds like Cat Stevens borrowed this for Morning Has Broken or vice versa
	7:46pm Dean: I think Strawbs is a great name. Way better than a bunch of prog band names. Marillion? Porcupine Tree? Dumb names.
	7:46pm dday: ↳ Jackie G @7:43 Nope :)
	7:46pm Mhinca: Stay yes that's a bizarre double bill. I saw them w Lindesfarne. And concur re little sleepy/nomadness
	🤯 7:46pm G: Wakeman saw a book about the six wives in an airport bookstore, and wrote the six pieces from that.
	7:46pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:45 Or "Strawdy B."
	7:47pm laurapanic: UK prog is so goddamned BRITISH
	7:47pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dean @7:46 Whoa, now! Let's be cool around poor Marillion! Early Tolkien catalogues are having their moment!
	7:47pm Dean: I fucking love Cardi B. She kicks prog asses way the hell across the street.
	7:47pm Destroit: ↳ laurapanic @7:47 Haha here comes Laura! Hiya!!
	7:48pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:46 Haha. Totally. There are possibilities. I'm glad we're all having this conversation. Collaborating is FUN.
	🤯 7:48pm chresti: My ex had Strawbs in his collection I remember seeing the album cover on the shelves.
	7:48pm Dean: Naw, Marillion is just plain dumb.
	7:48pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "Catherine Howard" by "Rick Wakeman" You could learn a lot about the 6 Wives of Henry by reading the liner notes of this album
	7:48pm dale: i hate to admit that i bought this album in the 1970s and listened to it once. only once. i still have it. but just once!
	🤯 7:49pm chresti: ↳ laurapanic @7:47 Haha
	7:49pm dday: ↳ dale @7:48 I think Journey to the Center of the Earth was far worse :)
	7:49pm Chris Hiatt: The Myths & Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table: 2nd best 25 cents I ever spent on a vinyl record.
	7:50pm dale: man - even the piano rolls are morning has broken!!
	7:51pm Jackie G: ↳ laurapanic @7:47 Thats why its good.
	7:51pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dean @7:48 A new script for a new jester's tear.
	7:51pm luka: ↳ Song: "The Hangman" by "Moundrag" i was in the tub, this killed
	7:51pm dale: ↳ dday @7:49 i have that too. listened once!
	🤯 7:51pm G: ↳ dday @7:46 Wakeman used to tell the story about how he was the session keyboardist on Morning Has Broken, and the producer thought it was too short, so Wakeman modulated it up a tone to add a fresh repeat verse. He used to tell the story in solo piano shows in the 00s that he never got paid for that session, and someone eventually paid him haha.
	7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: HBD Damo Suzuki
	7:52pm dday: ↳ G @7:51 Wakeman's a cool guy. Very funny actually. He did a gig at the Bearsville Theater recently. Great stories.
	🤯 7:52pm G: ↳ dday @7:49 Return to the Center of the Earth, from about 2000 is much better. Check it out sometime.
	7:53pm pot8o: thanks dave! have a great rest of the week everyone!
	7:53pm goes211: Prog humor…love it, Dave!
	7:54pm sufferwords: Saw Wakeman tour at Hollywood Bowl- Journey to the Center of the Earth- the blow up dinosaurs only inflated to extremely limp- ahem spinal tap
	7:54pm dale: i want to say ooh, but i have no idea what the bush tetras sound like.
	🤯 7:55pm chresti: ↳ sufferwords @7:54 haha limp dinosaurs
	7:55pm Handy Haversack: Many thanks, Dave. Always great to be here!
	7:56pm mic_a: Bush Tetras are postpunk. Haha! Callback to earlier comments!
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...there's PrawgAdJason again. That bastard's got some nerve, man.
	7:56pm dday: ↳ chresti @7:55 That what caused them to become extinct
	7:56pm Franco Twinkie: The book is very good. Explaining a phenomena I never understood. Van leaves me cold, what can I say?
	7:56pm mic_a: But they really are postpunk, right?
	7:56pm Destroit: Thanks Dave, thanks commenters. Love ya’llz. Til next week!
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The American Way Of Love: part I - Metephore for ... USA ! USA !
	7:56pm Wendy del Formaggio: Thanks for another fine show, Dave! It's definitely a highlight of my Monday.
	🤯 7:57pm chresti: ↳ chresti @7:55 balloons
	7:57pm TDK60: U.S.A. psych-rock for sure but prog is cousinly, eh? Labels schmlabels. Dave, this show needs to be an hour and 26 min. Gracias!
	7:57pm mic_a: Prog was totally an outgrowth of psych.
	7:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ TDK60 @7:57 Always fascinated by liminal stuff - how Psych made Prawg inevitable being one area.
	7:57pm ultradamno: ↳ mic_a @7:56 I'll allow it.
	7:58pm luka: ↳ luka @7:51 uhh, a video i just found suggests this is just two performers?! mental.
	7:58pm mic_a: And totally thanks, Dave!
	🤯 7:58pm HollyRT: great show as always, D!
	7:58pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @7:57 I would have also accepted No Wave or Mutant Funk
	7:58pm Franco Twinkie: Thanks Dave. Good dinner music.
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Pet Sounds'. First Prawg.
	7:59pm mic_a: Best wishes everyone.
	7:59pm Jackie G: Thanks, man. This was fun.
	7:59pm P-90: Thanks Dave!
	7:59pm listener 126464: Thank you, Dave!
	7:59pm Wind: Good night all..
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~
	🤯 7:59pm chresti: ↳ luka @7:58 wow!
	🤯 7:59pm TroyD8: Thanks Dave & Prog people!
	7:59pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, all! Night!
	7:59pm bleubombersune: Dave thanks
	7:59pm dale: thanks dave!
	7:59pm Rob from Maryland: We enjoyed this show, Dave, thank you!!
	8:00pm Chris Hiatt: Thanks for the great show, Dave!
	🤯 8:00pm chresti: Thanks Dave!
	8:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The American Way Of Love: part I - Metephore for ... & the price is right ! the cost of one admission is your mind.
	8:02am Fragonard: 2-fer
	8:25am TDK60: Dave, I think it's a waste of time for you to have to read WFMU announcements toward the end of the show. It's a progg show that's only an hour! Let the two-hour, three-hour shows do that. (I'll bring it up live during the show soon too...hee.)

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 16, 2023

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January 16, 2023

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Yes	Five Percent for Nothing "Five Percent for Nothing" by "Yes"	Fragile	0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Pete Sinfield	The Song of the Sea Goat	Still	0:04:47 (Pop-up)
Here and Now	Hairy Barber "Hairy Barber" by "Here and Now"	Gospel of Free	0:10:58 (Pop-up)

Moundrag	The Hangman "The Hangman" by "Moundrag"	Hic Sunt Moundrages	0:24:47 (Pop-up)
Strawbs	Ghosts "Ghosts" by "Strawbs"	Ghosts	0:32:29 (Pop-up)

Rick Wakeman	Catherine Howard "Catherine Howard" by "Rick Wakeman"	The Six Wives of Henry VIII	0:45:07 (Pop-up)

United States of America	The American Way Of Love: part I - Metephore for an Older Man, Part II - California Good-time Music, Part III - Love Is All	United States of America	0:56:18 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	7:01pm Handy Haversack: It's go time! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
	7:01pm ultradamno: Dave! Comptrollers!
	7:01pm TDK60: How-do, DJ Dave!
	7:01pm ike-o: Peace
	7:02pm mic_a: Halloo, Dave and prog groggers.
	7:02pm dale: hey now.
	7:02pm Rob from Maryland: Good evening
	7:02pm Magenta: Good evening everyone!
	7:02pm bleubombersune: Dave Good Mpnday evening
	🤯 7:02pm HollyRT: Evening, Proggers
	7:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hooray! Hello Dave and friends.
	🤯 7:02pm Webhamster Henry: Records that even WFMU will play.... they occasionally show you at the sidewalk record sales.
	🤯 7:03pm chresti: Hi Dave complicated retirement record show!
	7:03pm TDK60: Oh I love this Sinfield album. I have an LP, very scartchy. Like the softer King Crimson stuff maybe.
	7:03pm dale: the kids' stuff can sometimes be good. but mostly crap. but if it's good it's derivitive of the basement records.
	7:04pm Tome: Hey Dave lovin' it ! <> !
	7:04pm Destroit: Hello Dave, Wendy, Handy and all the other nice people assembling.
	7:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Dave and complications!
	7:04pm mic_a: Yes, I see that I have that too. Yet I do not have Pere Ubu's Dub Housing. Sigh.
	7:04pm TDK60: ↳ TDK60 @7:03 ..don't worry, "scartchy" isn't a prog term, yet. -scratchy
	7:04pm Handy Haversack: Hey, Destroit!
	7:04pm luka: good evening
	7:05pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Destroit @7:04 Hello there, Destroit.
	7:05pm ultradamno: ↳ mic_a @7:04 That is not one to not have
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: Evening everyone! Thanks for being here.
	7:05pm Wendy del Formaggio: mmm... surface noise... I love it.
	7:06pm Coach32sm: Don't forget, Johny's in the basement mixing up the medicine Im on the pavement thinking bout the government
	7:06pm mic_a: At least I have "The Modern Dance".
	7:07pm Jackie G: Pete Sinfield. Where does he come up with these lyrics? Must be the water.
	7:07pm Coach32sm: Very, Very Crimson
	7:07pm Tome: didn't Pete Sinfield did lot of record covers too if I'm not totally gone by now
	7:07pm Dave Mandl: Hello Handy, ultradamno, TDK60, ike, mic_a, date, Rob, Magenta, Bleubombersune, Holly, Mlle Fromage, Henry, chresti, Tome, Destroit, Ken, luka, Coach, Jackie!
	7:08pm Chris Hiatt: Hello All. This is the proggiest prog that ever progged.
	7:08pm mic_a: Oh yes, I remember this one. Probably the proggiest track on the album. Is 'wimp prog' a subdivision? (no insult intended, but really, just listen)
	7:08pm dale: this is pretty sweet.
	7:08pm Coach32sm: Didn't he produce Roxy Music?
	7:09pm TDK60: Most of the K.C. band plus on this Sinfield.
	7:09pm dale: reminds me of octopus, the german octopus? there were a few octopusses....
	7:09pm Jackie G: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:05 Not surface noise. Dave has a fire going.
	7:09pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Tome @7:07 Hmmm, he may have done some cover art, yeah. Can't remember any details right now.
	7:09pm mic_a: Keith Tippet(s) on piano.
	7:10pm Handy Haversack: This was before sea goats were extinct.
	7:10pm Trimegistus: Thank the lord it’s not Richard Dawson. Enough for one day..
	7:10pm Chris Hiatt: Wetton AND Lake worked on this album!
	7:11pm feral parsnip: somehow getting deja vu to nick cave and leonard cohen songs. 'mercy seat?'
	7:11pm mic_a: "Cover concept & design" by Sinfield. Painting by Sulamith Wulfing.
	7:12pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:10 Right you are.
	7:12pm Wind: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:05 Hey Wendy :)
	7:14pm sydnius: love the filter sweeps
	7:14pm Dave Mandl: ↳ sydnius @7:14 :-)
	🤯 7:14pm TroyD8: ↳ Song: "Hairy Barber" by "Here and Now" Nice!
	7:14pm vizante: kanye did nothing wrong
	7:14pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jackie G @7:09 Haha. Or he's cooking bacon.
	7:14pm pot8o: hi everyone!
	7:15pm Destroit: Every week with this show….feels like a jump into the cold deep end of the swimming pool. Love it. An adventure i tell ya!
	7:15pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Wind @7:12 Howdy, Wind!
	7:15pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ TroyD8 @7:14 I agree!
	7:15pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Destroit @7:15 Thank you kindly, @Destroit.
	7:16pm Wind: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:07 I thought I didn't like prog but...it's complicated...
	7:16pm mic_a: There may be several genres from back in the day that were enabled by tape-echos.
	7:16pm Tome: I was thiking early King Crimson yes and all he did do lot of the album covers not sure about Yes though perhaps ..
	7:16pm Rob from Maryland: Ali babba, ali babba!!!
	7:17pm tim from washington: Long time listener, first time progger. I mean commenter. Thanks, Dave. You’re show is fantastic! I think Acid Mothers Temple took a lot of notes listening to Here and Now. Prog on everybody!
	7:17pm mic_a: @Tome - You may be thinking of Roger Dean?
	🤯 7:17pm G: I'm having the darnedest luck listening to this show live recently. Often, just listening in archive later. -- This week, Mary Ellen's kids are here as houseguests (currently debating dinner) because their dad died yesterday. I am listening low volume on the laptop...
	7:18pm Dave Mandl: @tim: Welcome! And thanks.
	7:18pm Rob from Maryland: The current portion of Hairy Barber sounds so much like the Planet Gong "Allez Ali Baba Black Sheep Have you Any Bullshit: Mama Maya Mantram" from the Floating Anarchy live 1997 album from Planet Gong
	7:18pm Tome: perhaps mic_a yes I'm just lovein' this now ) thanks )
	7:19pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:10 Not as popular as Sea-Monkeys.
	7:21pm Franco Twinkie: That brought to mind the first time someone described Hawkwind to me. Since it was 1975 and we were at work, no actual music was playing, so he did an interpretive dance I'll never forget.
	7:21pm mic_a: "Boz" also.
	7:21pm Tome: I 'm like thinkng that sorry .. for some reason , love the show Dave M.
	7:21pm Rob from Maryland: Dave et al., the wikipedia entry for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_%26_Now_(band) says "Gospel of Free (1976 to 1978. Released in 1999)"
	7:22pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:21 So it looks like it was recorded in the 70s?
	7:22pm Rick from SC: I just listened to the whole Still album. It didn’t hold up well. Had a nice cover though and some great musicians
	7:22pm P-90: From the “New Prog Bin”?
	7:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Song of the Sea Goat" by "Pete Sinfield" Saluting Pete & all the ♑︎Capricorn SeaGoatz ! www.facebook.com...
	7:23pm ultradamno: ...but can 'prog' mean as many different things as 'post-punk'?
	🤯 7:23pm chresti: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:10 Haha
	7:24pm Destroit: ↳ Franco Twinkie @7:21 Haha imagining legs and arms akimbo with pursed lips stank face
	7:24pm dale: witchwood has some great proggy moments when rick wakeman came on board.
	🤯 7:24pm chresti: LOL
	7:24pm P-90: “Prog” means more different things than anything
	7:24pm dday: Got any "Eloy" in the basement?
	🤯 7:25pm chresti: The hairy barber
	7:25pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Destroit @7:24 Droopy long hair and dirty Vans sneakers too!
	7:25pm mic_a: Got my curiosity up and found that Sinfield did the design, but not the art, for "Lizard"; and design AND art for "Islands". Otherwise, naught.
	7:25pm Dean: Somehow? Rick Wakeman joined them.
	7:25pm Coach32sm: Strawbs Oh yeah
	7:26pm Aitch: Progging quietly in the corner here
	7:26pm ultradamno: I'm sorry, I've seen 2 Tone lumped in with 'post-punk', no label covers more ground to the point of meaninglessness
	7:26pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dday @7:24 @dday: I'll play Eloy at some point, yeah.
	🤯 7:26pm chresti: The song of the hairy ghost
	7:26pm Dean: Prog was rock's stretch toward classical/symphonic. Not that hard.
	7:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...This Way to the Prawgress...
	7:26pm dday: Got to see Strawbs twice..Hero & Heroine & Ghosts tours. Fantastic shows!
	7:27pm dday: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:26 Ocean is a good disc
	7:27pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: Moundrag sound like they're straight outta 1975. Not a complaint.
	7:28pm Mhinca: Dave, SO GLAD to hear you back again. LOVE the Strawbs, one of my all time faves. Thanks!!
	7:28pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:21 @Rob: Ah, thanks. I knew it was released in 1999, but that makes sense.
	🤯 7:28pm chresti: Mound rages
	7:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: This has Strawbs members? I missed the gist.
	7:29pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dday @7:26 @dday: Holy cow.
	7:29pm ultradamno: Also, there are so many 'Sarah's in the world that it has become a meaningless label.
	7:29pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:29 @RRN63: No, this is a new group.
	7:30pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Mhinca @7:28 @Mhinca: Thanks. <3
	7:30pm Jackie G: ↳ Coach32sm @7:25 What about The Strawbs?!
	7:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...que sarah sarah...
	7:30pm Coach32sm: I always felt that Dave Cousins was as difficult to be a band member of/with as Ian Anderson was. band members always leaving. Saw them a few times too, not great live but one of my all time fav bands each new musical branch, starting with Sandy Denny etc
	7:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Hangman" by "Moundrag" GeddyLee-ish ...I still like it.
	7:30pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "The Hangman" by "Moundrag" Loving this. Freshly squeezed prog. These two guys are putting out a lot of sound, I bet it's a great live show!
	7:31pm Jackie G: ↳ Mhinca @7:28 Yeah! The Strawbs!
	7:31pm François: Great show!! Thanks for giving some love to prog! I'd love it if you could play the following track by French band Arrakeen. They opened for Marillion on their 1990 tour. Great and unique forgotten band. Miss them. Thanks!! https://youtu.be/lg5GPQ_H_aA
	7:31pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Coach32sm @7:30 Joe McGasko interviewed Cousins a while back here on FMU. He was...a funny guy.
	7:32pm Whosondephone: Yeah Baby!
	7:33pm Dave Mandl: ↳ François @7:31 @François: Noted, thanks!
	7:33pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Thank you!!
	7:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Every time I hear Strawbs I wanna know more.
	7:35pm Ciggy: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Wow It's been decades
	7:36pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" The music & voices are all around us
	7:36pm Dave Mandl: This Strawbs stuff is totally over the top but so good.
	7:36pm dale: dave cousins was in beacon a number of years ago and i kick myself for not going.
	7:37pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:28 I was investigating because "Hairy Barber" sounded so much like a demo version of that Planet Gong song "Allez Ali Baba Black Sheep [etc.]" Thank you for playing Here and Now!
	7:37pm dale: is any amazing blondel considered prog? would love to hear them here...
	7:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Have thot of Strawbs as Anglo FolkRawk - not an awful lot of Folk this one !
	7:38pm Destroit: Did Straws ever have a “hit”?
	7:38pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" It has a glammy sheen to it.
	7:38pm Coach32sm: Saw the Beacon Show!!!
	7:38pm Mhinca: Rev Rabbits check out strawbs albums Bursting at the Seams; Hero & Heroine; Ghosts; & NoMadness. Great little-known mostly prog music. You won't be disappointed
	7:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Mhinca @7:38 Thx
	7:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Dave Cousins wigkey for catch-up : en.wikipedia.org...
	7:39pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" This sounds sort of like Genesis
	7:39pm Ciggy: My favorite is Down by the Sea
	7:39pm Coach32sm: Unfortunately "Part of the Union" was a hit not their best work
	7:39pm Jackie G: An acoustic versin of The Strawbs played at a little theatre in Boonton, NJ some time ago. The two Daves and Chas Cronk. So very good. They hung out after the show . A fine evening in Boonton, NJ
	7:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" Wondering if BevisFrond are into Strawbs...
	7:40pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Destroit @7:38 "Part Of The Union" was like #1 in Britain in early 1973
	7:40pm dale: ↳ Destroit @7:38 'lay down' was a hit in the uk. pete fornatele always played it on mixed bag around the holidays.
	7:40pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" It’s good to see the sun again- if you know what I mean
	7:40pm Jackie G: ↳ Destroit @7:38 Lay Down
	7:41pm Mhinca: Destroit -closest to 'hits' were Part of the Union and Hero & Heroine
	7:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:39 Not a million miles is it.
	7:41pm Coach32sm: I think "Lay Down" was a little bit of a "hit" too
	7:41pm Rob from Maryland: ↳ Rob from Maryland @7:40 Sorry, #2 (according to wikipedia)
	7:41pm dday: ↳ Song: "Ghosts" by "Strawbs" In the world of "strange double bills" one of the Strawbs shows I saw was supposed to be them supporting The Average White Band. AWB bowed out & I don't recall if there was an opener or not. The other show was openers Bonnie Bramlett & Pretty Things (circa Silk Torpedo)
	7:42pm dale: ↳ Coach32sm @7:38 you had more sense to go than i did.
	7:42pm dday: ↳ Mhinca @7:41 Little Sleepy from Nomadness had potential as a "single" but the LP as whole was ignored by radio
	7:43pm Jackie G: ↳ dday @7:41 Was Foghat on the bill at one of your Strawbs shows?
	7:43pm Wendy del Formaggio: That Strawbs was effin' awesome. I have one big problem with it, though, which may preclude me from playing it on my show: I can't stand their name. Dunno why. But even reading it, let alone hearing it or saying it, makes my skin crawl. Any suggestions, friends?
	7:43pm Coach32sm: I saw Strawbs with Fought as top bill and the audience kept screaming "FOGHAT" during Strawbs set!!!!
	7:43pm dday: ↳ Jackie G @7:39 The duo of Hudson & Ford (former Strawbs members) were doing shows in NJ for awhile a few years back
	7:44pm François: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:33 Thank you so much, Dave! Keep it up!!
	7:44pm Fragonard: Yay us!
	7:44pm Jackie G: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:43 Its short for The Strawberry Hill Boys. I think
	7:44pm Destroit: Thanks gang. Amazingly, i had never heard of Strawbs. Again, deep end of the pool! My prog knowledge is D+ at best. Maybe D- haha
	7:44pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:43 Think of them as the Strawb that stirs the drink?
	7:45pm Mhinca: Wendy well you could always refer to them by their orig name, "the strawberry Hill Boys"
	7:45pm Jackie G: ↳ Coach32sm @7:43 I was there . I think
	7:45pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jackie G @7:44 Ahh, that could work.
	7:45pm dale: ↳ Destroit @7:44 morning has broken.
	7:45pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:44 Hmm, another good idea. Thanks!
	7:46pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Mhinca @7:45 I think that's the solution. Thank you!
	7:46pm dday: Sounds like Cat Stevens borrowed this for Morning Has Broken or vice versa
	7:46pm Dean: I think Strawbs is a great name. Way better than a bunch of prog band names. Marillion? Porcupine Tree? Dumb names.
	7:46pm dday: ↳ Jackie G @7:43 Nope :)
	7:46pm Mhinca: Stay yes that's a bizarre double bill. I saw them w Lindesfarne. And concur re little sleepy/nomadness
	🤯 7:46pm G: Wakeman saw a book about the six wives in an airport bookstore, and wrote the six pieces from that.
	7:46pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @7:45 Or "Strawdy B."
	7:47pm laurapanic: UK prog is so goddamned BRITISH
	7:47pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dean @7:46 Whoa, now! Let's be cool around poor Marillion! Early Tolkien catalogues are having their moment!
	7:47pm Dean: I fucking love Cardi B. She kicks prog asses way the hell across the street.
	7:47pm Destroit: ↳ laurapanic @7:47 Haha here comes Laura! Hiya!!
	7:48pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:46 Haha. Totally. There are possibilities. I'm glad we're all having this conversation. Collaborating is FUN.
	🤯 7:48pm chresti: My ex had Strawbs in his collection I remember seeing the album cover on the shelves.
	7:48pm Dean: Naw, Marillion is just plain dumb.
	7:48pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "Catherine Howard" by "Rick Wakeman" You could learn a lot about the 6 Wives of Henry by reading the liner notes of this album
	7:48pm dale: i hate to admit that i bought this album in the 1970s and listened to it once. only once. i still have it. but just once!
	🤯 7:49pm chresti: ↳ laurapanic @7:47 Haha
	7:49pm dday: ↳ dale @7:48 I think Journey to the Center of the Earth was far worse :)
	7:49pm Chris Hiatt: The Myths & Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table: 2nd best 25 cents I ever spent on a vinyl record.
	7:50pm dale: man - even the piano rolls are morning has broken!!
	7:51pm Jackie G: ↳ laurapanic @7:47 Thats why its good.
	7:51pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dean @7:48 A new script for a new jester's tear.
	7:51pm luka: ↳ Song: "The Hangman" by "Moundrag" i was in the tub, this killed
	7:51pm dale: ↳ dday @7:49 i have that too. listened once!
	🤯 7:51pm G: ↳ dday @7:46 Wakeman used to tell the story about how he was the session keyboardist on Morning Has Broken, and the producer thought it was too short, so Wakeman modulated it up a tone to add a fresh repeat verse. He used to tell the story in solo piano shows in the 00s that he never got paid for that session, and someone eventually paid him haha.
	7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: HBD Damo Suzuki
	7:52pm dday: ↳ G @7:51 Wakeman's a cool guy. Very funny actually. He did a gig at the Bearsville Theater recently. Great stories.
	🤯 7:52pm G: ↳ dday @7:49 Return to the Center of the Earth, from about 2000 is much better. Check it out sometime.
	7:53pm pot8o: thanks dave! have a great rest of the week everyone!
	7:53pm goes211: Prog humor…love it, Dave!
	7:54pm sufferwords: Saw Wakeman tour at Hollywood Bowl- Journey to the Center of the Earth- the blow up dinosaurs only inflated to extremely limp- ahem spinal tap
	7:54pm dale: i want to say ooh, but i have no idea what the bush tetras sound like.
	🤯 7:55pm chresti: ↳ sufferwords @7:54 haha limp dinosaurs
	7:55pm Handy Haversack: Many thanks, Dave. Always great to be here!
	7:56pm mic_a: Bush Tetras are postpunk. Haha! Callback to earlier comments!
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...there's PrawgAdJason again. That bastard's got some nerve, man.
	7:56pm dday: ↳ chresti @7:55 That what caused them to become extinct
	7:56pm Franco Twinkie: The book is very good. Explaining a phenomena I never understood. Van leaves me cold, what can I say?
	7:56pm mic_a: But they really are postpunk, right?
	7:56pm Destroit: Thanks Dave, thanks commenters. Love ya’llz. Til next week!
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The American Way Of Love: part I - Metephore for ... USA ! USA !
	7:56pm Wendy del Formaggio: Thanks for another fine show, Dave! It's definitely a highlight of my Monday.
	🤯 7:57pm chresti: ↳ chresti @7:55 balloons
	7:57pm TDK60: U.S.A. psych-rock for sure but prog is cousinly, eh? Labels schmlabels. Dave, this show needs to be an hour and 26 min. Gracias!
	7:57pm mic_a: Prog was totally an outgrowth of psych.
	7:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ TDK60 @7:57 Always fascinated by liminal stuff - how Psych made Prawg inevitable being one area.
	7:57pm ultradamno: ↳ mic_a @7:56 I'll allow it.
	7:58pm luka: ↳ luka @7:51 uhh, a video i just found suggests this is just two performers?! mental.
	7:58pm mic_a: And totally thanks, Dave!
	🤯 7:58pm HollyRT: great show as always, D!
	7:58pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @7:57 I would have also accepted No Wave or Mutant Funk
	7:58pm Franco Twinkie: Thanks Dave. Good dinner music.
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Pet Sounds'. First Prawg.
	7:59pm mic_a: Best wishes everyone.
	7:59pm Jackie G: Thanks, man. This was fun.
	7:59pm P-90: Thanks Dave!
	7:59pm listener 126464: Thank you, Dave!
	7:59pm Wind: Good night all..
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~
	🤯 7:59pm chresti: ↳ luka @7:58 wow!
	🤯 7:59pm TroyD8: Thanks Dave & Prog people!
	7:59pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, all! Night!
	7:59pm bleubombersune: Dave thanks
	7:59pm dale: thanks dave!
	7:59pm Rob from Maryland: We enjoyed this show, Dave, thank you!!
	8:00pm Chris Hiatt: Thanks for the great show, Dave!
	🤯 8:00pm chresti: Thanks Dave!
	8:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The American Way Of Love: part I - Metephore for ... & the price is right ! the cost of one admission is your mind.
	8:02am Fragonard: 2-fer
	8:25am TDK60: Dave, I think it's a waste of time for you to have to read WFMU announcements toward the end of the show. It's a progg show that's only an hour! Let the two-hour, three-hour shows do that. (I'll bring it up live during the show soon too...hee.)

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 16, 2023

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