WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 14, 2023

Listener comments!
	5:46pm G: Ready to go...
	5:56pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtoondogglers!
	🤖 5:59pm Handy Haversack: Mark and Techyons!
	5:59pm mndave: "Techtoondogglers" is top-notch @ultradamno. Thanks Mark for playing that outro last week!
	6:00pm Rolando: \o/ hello
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! All!
	6:01pm Deano de los Muertos: evening Mark and Techtachyons
	🤖 6:01pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	6:02pm PolakSlovak: Good evening all!
	🤖 6:03pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Mark! I'm here at least for a little bit, while I put away records and what-not.
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Here for this week's Techtrocities.
	6:05pm _Ike_: Hey, I’m from that peninsula! It’s really, really boring.
	6:05pm David in London: Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:05pm mndave: I was near Lancaster, PA last week and there are yard signs all over the place that say "NO MORE WAREHOUSES!" and well guess who they're talking about
	6:05pm The Butterman: I’m so glad you didn’t get coal-rolled. I’m disturbingly obsessed with you getting coal-rolled.
	6:06pm joe mulligan: coal rolling is a big deal in PA
	6:06pm paddy in matawan: Idocracy is a documentary.
	6:07pm joe mulligan: ↳ paddy in matawan @6:06 haha, yup!
	🤖 6:07pm Deano de los Muertos: I know exactly what you mean, Mark. There is one near Allentown, PA..trucking distribution center 100%
	6:08pm Ciggy: A Yonkers, NY person Vacationing & listening to Mark and Techtonic from Long Beach Island. 👂 👂 Mega Amazon Distribution Building undergoing construction in Hawthorne, NY.
	🤖 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: I reckon as time goes on, the scenery along all the interstate highways is going to be warehouses.
	6:09pm paddy in matawan: They are building something GINORMOUS in Old Bridge, NJ. It's ominous. Funnily, Old Bridge was historicaly about keeping a lot of green spaces. Now they have sold out big time.
	6:09pm Jackie G: " its got electrolytes"
	6:10pm paddy in matawan: re-nj.com...
	6:11pm Jackie G: ↳ paddy in matawan @6:09 thats why they call it old
	6:11pm redkayak: These buildings (data centers) are popping up lately. Curious
	6:11pm redkayak: ....and ALL those buildings with truck holes.....
	6:12pm mndave: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:09 They built four in a cluster not far from QVC's distribution centers which are currently empty. Two of the four don't have tenants. So there's now just brand-new, empty warehouses instead of farmland, which craves electrolytes
	🤖 6:12pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
	🤖 6:13pm Wendy del Formaggio: This practice of Amazon's sure is telling. I mean, even prisons let the public know when they want to come to your town.
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:03 Thanks for joining, Wendy!
	🤖 6:14pm Handy Haversack: There's a last-mile-fulfillment monstrosity going in one the shores of Newtown Creek, I assume as revenge for the organizing that kept Amazon's HQ2 out of there ...
	6:14pm Jackie G: so sick of seeing those Amazon trucks on every other street
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ _Ike_ @6:05 Lots of crab shacks and farm stands. Some nice vistas.
	🤖 6:14pm Wendy del Formaggio: Holy fuck. $6 BILLION?!?
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ David in London @6:05 Hey @DiL, nice to see you here. I was just thinking today, it's been awhile since we've had one of your infographics!
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: ↳ The Butterman @6:05 Weirdly I got coal-rolled again a few months ago. I haven't shared the story on-air yet but I might get around to that sometime.
	🤖 6:15pm Bas NL: Excellent 'why?'!
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Ciggy @6:08 Thanks for listening on vacay, Ciggy!
	🤖 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:15 You're in their database now, Mark. Good luck removing yourself from their database.
	6:16pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Bas NL @6:15 Heh thanks, Bas :)
	🤖 6:17pm Wendy del Formaggio: It reminds me of the Wal Mart effect, but $6 Billion WORSE. Main streets shuttered, shitty jobs, tax giveaways (aka corporate welfare), and often an increase in visits to the local ER because workers get injured.
	6:17pm Sam: It isn’t just Amazon or tech companies. Big corporations have been doing this for decades. Johnson & Johnson has been holding the city of New Brunswick hostage for decades threatening to move their headquarters if they don’t keep getting massive tax breaks. Other places bend over backwards for WalMart - all so they can come in and decimate all the local businesses. It has to stop!!
	6:17pm _Ike_: Some people still criticize progressives like AOC for helping to sink HQ2, refusing to understand it was a huge SCAM the whole time and that progressive did GREAT work in sinking it!
	6:17pm Danny in Poughkeepsie: Hey Mark. Your show is always amazing. Thanks.
	6:17pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:17 That's right... and local taxpayers PAY for the privilege of all of these effects. And never hear about the secret deal until it's done.
	6:18pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Danny in Poughkeepsie @6:17 Thanks, Danny!
	🤖 6:19pm Wendy del Formaggio: Oh rats. I gotta head out to dinner. I'll catch the second half on the archives. Thanks as always, Mark, for your public service. And thanks to Pat Garofalo for the research and reporting!
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:19 Thanks, Wendy!
	6:21pm McGroovey: Local government officials signing a private NDA? That sounds illegal. Itwould be illegal, if it's not.
	6:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:17 its almost as if corporations are setting up as new gods or religions to be believed in, that's how they extract all this money
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:21 Very much so.
	6:22pm _Ike_: There was a great article somewhere a few years ago about a trucking distribution center in Indiana or Illinois that got huge tax breaks from the town it moved into, causing the town to go totally bankrupt as the trucks destroyed the roads, polluted the air, and drained local resources, while only bringing in shitty independent-contractor “jobs”.
	6:22pm _Ike_: But now I can’t find it…
	6:22pm mr 6: I never understood how anyone was in support of NYC paying money to Amazon for opening a building here. The argument referenced the job creation.A simple calculator proved that the amount of jobs created nyc could have given a million dollars to each employee and then some! Obviously Amazon was never creating that amount of jobs anyway
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: ↳ _Ike_ @6:22 If you come across it, please send it along - mark (at) wfmu (dot) org
	6:23pm _Ike_: Will do!
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: This is great material - and it doesn't even have to be Amazon, there's a great story about Foxconn in Wisconsin.
	6:27pm David in London: Mark, you set ‘em up and I’ll knock ‘em down.,,
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: And then, there's sports arena building: www.fieldofschemes.com
	6:31pm Juli: 👿👿👿👿
	6:32pm Lars: Endless consumption will do us all in
	🤖 6:32pm Bas NL: Wow.
	6:32pm dday: ↳ paddy in matawan @6:06 Brawndo! It's got electrolytes!
	6:33pm yippie: I hate electrolytes
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: I wish people proved that "Job Creators" were actual job creators before throwing money at them. Often, it results in thousands of government subsidy dollars per job created.
	6:34pm ultradamno: Struggling to hear the show over the guy nearby trimming his hedges in the rain
	6:34pm dday: ↳ Lars @6:32 People have to learn the difference between "Wants' & "needs"
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:31 Good pointer, thanks
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:34 I seem to be anticipating points in this show by mere minutes!
	6:35pm Sam: Why would you even have hockey in Arizona?
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:35 You are indeed 2 for 2.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Sam @6:35 'zackly.
	🤖 6:35pm herb.nyc: So many bad guys in this REAL movie. Thank you to good guys mark and pat. And for compelling us to act Arizona Coyotes? People say moving the Angels baseball team to Las Vegas will really tax the infrastructure
	6:35pm ultradamno: Sand hockey?
	6:37pm Jackie G: ↳ Sam @6:35 and Florida
	6:38pm Mr. Corey LLC: I live in Tempe, AZ and we voted that scam DOWN!!
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:38 Good job! Techtonic salutes you.
	6:39pm Sam: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:38 Thank you, y’all are awesome!
	🤖 6:39pm herb.nyc: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:38 Reveal, npr program, recently talked about Saudi Arabia taking away yr water. Ugh
	6:39pm Mr. Corey LLC: ↳ herb.nyc @6:39 Yeah, one thing at a time...
	🤖 6:39pm DjLorraine: ↳ Jackie G @6:37 For curling and zambonis
	6:40pm ultradamno: Swamp hockey makes more sense...you could use skies and have gators for hazards
	6:40pm Sam: At least they’re the Coyotes, not the Arizona Verizons or something. Naming stadiums after companies makes my blood boil! Why do people accept it?!
	6:41pm Jackie G: Newark needs the New Jersey Devils.
	6:42pm Sam: Like Met Life stadium. But the Mets don’t even play there. So dumb and undignified.
	6:43pm Jackie G: ↳ Sam @6:40 yeah, they better not change Fenway Park into Gillette Ball Park. Or something
	6:43pm castor: I miss the Whalers :'(
	6:43pm Mr. Corey LLC: Th way it was structured, the stadium deal had to pass the city council then go to a public vote. It passed the council unanimously...
	6:44pm Sam: ↳ Jackie G @6:43 Fenway Park is one of the few that didn’t sell out or tear down the historic old stadium to build a new one.
	🤖 6:44pm herb.nyc: Big title insurance? It’s the Monty Python skit, where the mafia sez to military base commander-“ya wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to yr tanks , eh?”
	6:44pm ultradamno: I went to high school at Walter P. Chrysler Memorial High...it changed after factory pulled up stakes...
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: Why isn't there a final, settled, public Title database?
	6:49pm ultradamno: NDAs shouldn't be legal period.
	6:49pm _Ike_: State Sen. Gianaris is great. Of course the Assembly is too cowardly and machine-controlled to let that come up for a vote. Not enough reformers in the NY Assembly.
	🤖 6:50pm Webhamster Henry: So .. is Pat on Mastodon so we don't have to follow him on Twitter/𝕏 ?
	6:51pm Jackie G: We need more Pat Garofolas. And Mark Hursts. Fighting the good fight.
	6:52pm Sam: ↳ Jackie G @6:51 Yeah if everyone was like these guys we’d have a pretty amazing country
	🤖 6:53pm Bas NL: Great interview with Pat Garofalo!
	6:54pm ultradamno: It's xilated twitter.com...
	6:55pm mndave: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:43 Same thing in Frederick from one of the articles Pat Garofalo's blog linked: "The Frederick County Council voted unanimously on March 15, 2022, to adopt a critical digital infrastructure (CDI) amendment to the county code."
	6:56pm Mr. Corey LLC: ↳ mndave @6:55 Yeah, I was very surprised to see that happen with the city council. We're supposedly a progressive city.
	6:57pm ultradamno: Half the politicians take it as a fundamental principle to keep public money from helping the public in any way, is a big part of it.
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: 👍 updates 👍
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks, Mark. Periodic “update shows” sounds like a really good idea…
	6:57pm Annette: Thank you Mark!
	6:58pm Mr. Corey LLC: Thanks again for a great show, Mark.
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark and Pat!
	🤖 6:58pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Great show!
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Nice and lively tonight!
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark and Pat! Mark, we had a real nice listen to Simark and Scottfunkel on the American road home this week. Great stuff.
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good comments.
	🤖 6:59pm Will thee Sound Guy: thank you Mark, Pat, and all the Accu peeps!!!
	6:59pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "I Need a Dollar" by "Aloe Blacc" I don't recall this from The Daily Show, but I remember it being the theme song from How To Make It In America
	6:59pm Rolando: Always a good show. Thank you
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:59 Ahh thanks, Handy - glad to contribute to your road trip!
	7:00pm Rekman: Thank you Mark..brilliant show
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Pat. Maybe a warehouse tax can pay for those public services.
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:50 I'm not aware of a Mastodon account for Pat
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Rekman @7:00 Thanks, Rekman!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 14, 2023

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August 14, 2023: Boondoggle's Pat Garofalo on Amazon's data-center scam

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Today: Pat Garofalo on Amazon's data-center scam

• Boondoggle newsletter, by Pat Garofalo, “about how corporations take advantage of states, cities, and local communities.”

• American Economic Liberties Project, where Pat is Director of State and Local Policy

• REVEALED: Amazon's Secret Data Center Dealings (Pat Garofalo, Jun 27, 2023)

• Inside the Sports Subsidy Industrial Complex (Pat Garofalo, Apr 26, 2023)

• Break Up Big Title Insurance (Pat Garofalo, Aug 2, 2023)

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Listener comments!
	5:46pm G: Ready to go...
	5:56pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtoondogglers!
	🤖 5:59pm Handy Haversack: Mark and Techyons!
	5:59pm mndave: "Techtoondogglers" is top-notch @ultradamno. Thanks Mark for playing that outro last week!
	6:00pm Rolando: \o/ hello
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! All!
	6:01pm Deano de los Muertos: evening Mark and Techtachyons
	🤖 6:01pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	6:02pm PolakSlovak: Good evening all!
	🤖 6:03pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Mark! I'm here at least for a little bit, while I put away records and what-not.
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Here for this week's Techtrocities.
	6:05pm _Ike_: Hey, I’m from that peninsula! It’s really, really boring.
	6:05pm David in London: Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:05pm mndave: I was near Lancaster, PA last week and there are yard signs all over the place that say "NO MORE WAREHOUSES!" and well guess who they're talking about
	6:05pm The Butterman: I’m so glad you didn’t get coal-rolled. I’m disturbingly obsessed with you getting coal-rolled.
	6:06pm joe mulligan: coal rolling is a big deal in PA
	6:06pm paddy in matawan: Idocracy is a documentary.
	6:07pm joe mulligan: ↳ paddy in matawan @6:06 haha, yup!
	🤖 6:07pm Deano de los Muertos: I know exactly what you mean, Mark. There is one near Allentown, PA..trucking distribution center 100%
	6:08pm Ciggy: A Yonkers, NY person Vacationing & listening to Mark and Techtonic from Long Beach Island. 👂 👂 Mega Amazon Distribution Building undergoing construction in Hawthorne, NY.
	🤖 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: I reckon as time goes on, the scenery along all the interstate highways is going to be warehouses.
	6:09pm paddy in matawan: They are building something GINORMOUS in Old Bridge, NJ. It's ominous. Funnily, Old Bridge was historicaly about keeping a lot of green spaces. Now they have sold out big time.
	6:09pm Jackie G: " its got electrolytes"
	6:10pm paddy in matawan: re-nj.com...
	6:11pm Jackie G: ↳ paddy in matawan @6:09 thats why they call it old
	6:11pm redkayak: These buildings (data centers) are popping up lately. Curious
	6:11pm redkayak: ....and ALL those buildings with truck holes.....
	6:12pm mndave: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:09 They built four in a cluster not far from QVC's distribution centers which are currently empty. Two of the four don't have tenants. So there's now just brand-new, empty warehouses instead of farmland, which craves electrolytes
	🤖 6:12pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
	🤖 6:13pm Wendy del Formaggio: This practice of Amazon's sure is telling. I mean, even prisons let the public know when they want to come to your town.
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:03 Thanks for joining, Wendy!
	🤖 6:14pm Handy Haversack: There's a last-mile-fulfillment monstrosity going in one the shores of Newtown Creek, I assume as revenge for the organizing that kept Amazon's HQ2 out of there ...
	6:14pm Jackie G: so sick of seeing those Amazon trucks on every other street
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ _Ike_ @6:05 Lots of crab shacks and farm stands. Some nice vistas.
	🤖 6:14pm Wendy del Formaggio: Holy fuck. $6 BILLION?!?
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ David in London @6:05 Hey @DiL, nice to see you here. I was just thinking today, it's been awhile since we've had one of your infographics!
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: ↳ The Butterman @6:05 Weirdly I got coal-rolled again a few months ago. I haven't shared the story on-air yet but I might get around to that sometime.
	🤖 6:15pm Bas NL: Excellent 'why?'!
	6:15pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Ciggy @6:08 Thanks for listening on vacay, Ciggy!
	🤖 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:15 You're in their database now, Mark. Good luck removing yourself from their database.
	6:16pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Bas NL @6:15 Heh thanks, Bas :)
	🤖 6:17pm Wendy del Formaggio: It reminds me of the Wal Mart effect, but $6 Billion WORSE. Main streets shuttered, shitty jobs, tax giveaways (aka corporate welfare), and often an increase in visits to the local ER because workers get injured.
	6:17pm Sam: It isn’t just Amazon or tech companies. Big corporations have been doing this for decades. Johnson & Johnson has been holding the city of New Brunswick hostage for decades threatening to move their headquarters if they don’t keep getting massive tax breaks. Other places bend over backwards for WalMart - all so they can come in and decimate all the local businesses. It has to stop!!
	6:17pm _Ike_: Some people still criticize progressives like AOC for helping to sink HQ2, refusing to understand it was a huge SCAM the whole time and that progressive did GREAT work in sinking it!
	6:17pm Danny in Poughkeepsie: Hey Mark. Your show is always amazing. Thanks.
	6:17pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:17 That's right... and local taxpayers PAY for the privilege of all of these effects. And never hear about the secret deal until it's done.
	6:18pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Danny in Poughkeepsie @6:17 Thanks, Danny!
	🤖 6:19pm Wendy del Formaggio: Oh rats. I gotta head out to dinner. I'll catch the second half on the archives. Thanks as always, Mark, for your public service. And thanks to Pat Garofalo for the research and reporting!
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:19 Thanks, Wendy!
	6:21pm McGroovey: Local government officials signing a private NDA? That sounds illegal. Itwould be illegal, if it's not.
	6:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:17 its almost as if corporations are setting up as new gods or religions to be believed in, that's how they extract all this money
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:21 Very much so.
	6:22pm _Ike_: There was a great article somewhere a few years ago about a trucking distribution center in Indiana or Illinois that got huge tax breaks from the town it moved into, causing the town to go totally bankrupt as the trucks destroyed the roads, polluted the air, and drained local resources, while only bringing in shitty independent-contractor “jobs”.
	6:22pm _Ike_: But now I can’t find it…
	6:22pm mr 6: I never understood how anyone was in support of NYC paying money to Amazon for opening a building here. The argument referenced the job creation.A simple calculator proved that the amount of jobs created nyc could have given a million dollars to each employee and then some! Obviously Amazon was never creating that amount of jobs anyway
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: ↳ _Ike_ @6:22 If you come across it, please send it along - mark (at) wfmu (dot) org
	6:23pm _Ike_: Will do!
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: This is great material - and it doesn't even have to be Amazon, there's a great story about Foxconn in Wisconsin.
	6:27pm David in London: Mark, you set ‘em up and I’ll knock ‘em down.,,
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: And then, there's sports arena building: www.fieldofschemes.com
	6:31pm Juli: 👿👿👿👿
	6:32pm Lars: Endless consumption will do us all in
	🤖 6:32pm Bas NL: Wow.
	6:32pm dday: ↳ paddy in matawan @6:06 Brawndo! It's got electrolytes!
	6:33pm yippie: I hate electrolytes
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: I wish people proved that "Job Creators" were actual job creators before throwing money at them. Often, it results in thousands of government subsidy dollars per job created.
	6:34pm ultradamno: Struggling to hear the show over the guy nearby trimming his hedges in the rain
	6:34pm dday: ↳ Lars @6:32 People have to learn the difference between "Wants' & "needs"
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:31 Good pointer, thanks
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:34 I seem to be anticipating points in this show by mere minutes!
	6:35pm Sam: Why would you even have hockey in Arizona?
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:35 You are indeed 2 for 2.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Sam @6:35 'zackly.
	🤖 6:35pm herb.nyc: So many bad guys in this REAL movie. Thank you to good guys mark and pat. And for compelling us to act Arizona Coyotes? People say moving the Angels baseball team to Las Vegas will really tax the infrastructure
	6:35pm ultradamno: Sand hockey?
	6:37pm Jackie G: ↳ Sam @6:35 and Florida
	6:38pm Mr. Corey LLC: I live in Tempe, AZ and we voted that scam DOWN!!
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:38 Good job! Techtonic salutes you.
	6:39pm Sam: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:38 Thank you, y’all are awesome!
	🤖 6:39pm herb.nyc: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:38 Reveal, npr program, recently talked about Saudi Arabia taking away yr water. Ugh
	6:39pm Mr. Corey LLC: ↳ herb.nyc @6:39 Yeah, one thing at a time...
	🤖 6:39pm DjLorraine: ↳ Jackie G @6:37 For curling and zambonis
	6:40pm ultradamno: Swamp hockey makes more sense...you could use skies and have gators for hazards
	6:40pm Sam: At least they’re the Coyotes, not the Arizona Verizons or something. Naming stadiums after companies makes my blood boil! Why do people accept it?!
	6:41pm Jackie G: Newark needs the New Jersey Devils.
	6:42pm Sam: Like Met Life stadium. But the Mets don’t even play there. So dumb and undignified.
	6:43pm Jackie G: ↳ Sam @6:40 yeah, they better not change Fenway Park into Gillette Ball Park. Or something
	6:43pm castor: I miss the Whalers :'(
	6:43pm Mr. Corey LLC: Th way it was structured, the stadium deal had to pass the city council then go to a public vote. It passed the council unanimously...
	6:44pm Sam: ↳ Jackie G @6:43 Fenway Park is one of the few that didn’t sell out or tear down the historic old stadium to build a new one.
	🤖 6:44pm herb.nyc: Big title insurance? It’s the Monty Python skit, where the mafia sez to military base commander-“ya wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to yr tanks , eh?”
	6:44pm ultradamno: I went to high school at Walter P. Chrysler Memorial High...it changed after factory pulled up stakes...
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: Why isn't there a final, settled, public Title database?
	6:49pm ultradamno: NDAs shouldn't be legal period.
	6:49pm _Ike_: State Sen. Gianaris is great. Of course the Assembly is too cowardly and machine-controlled to let that come up for a vote. Not enough reformers in the NY Assembly.
	🤖 6:50pm Webhamster Henry: So .. is Pat on Mastodon so we don't have to follow him on Twitter/𝕏 ?
	6:51pm Jackie G: We need more Pat Garofolas. And Mark Hursts. Fighting the good fight.
	6:52pm Sam: ↳ Jackie G @6:51 Yeah if everyone was like these guys we’d have a pretty amazing country
	🤖 6:53pm Bas NL: Great interview with Pat Garofalo!
	6:54pm ultradamno: It's xilated twitter.com...
	6:55pm mndave: ↳ Mr. Corey LLC @6:43 Same thing in Frederick from one of the articles Pat Garofalo's blog linked: "The Frederick County Council voted unanimously on March 15, 2022, to adopt a critical digital infrastructure (CDI) amendment to the county code."
	6:56pm Mr. Corey LLC: ↳ mndave @6:55 Yeah, I was very surprised to see that happen with the city council. We're supposedly a progressive city.
	6:57pm ultradamno: Half the politicians take it as a fundamental principle to keep public money from helping the public in any way, is a big part of it.
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: 👍 updates 👍
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks, Mark. Periodic “update shows” sounds like a really good idea…
	6:57pm Annette: Thank you Mark!
	6:58pm Mr. Corey LLC: Thanks again for a great show, Mark.
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark and Pat!
	🤖 6:58pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Great show!
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Nice and lively tonight!
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark and Pat! Mark, we had a real nice listen to Simark and Scottfunkel on the American road home this week. Great stuff.
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good comments.
	🤖 6:59pm Will thee Sound Guy: thank you Mark, Pat, and all the Accu peeps!!!
	6:59pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "I Need a Dollar" by "Aloe Blacc" I don't recall this from The Daily Show, but I remember it being the theme song from How To Make It In America
	6:59pm Rolando: Always a good show. Thank you
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:59 Ahh thanks, Handy - glad to contribute to your road trip!
	7:00pm Rekman: Thank you Mark..brilliant show
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Pat. Maybe a warehouse tax can pay for those public services.
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:50 I'm not aware of a Mastodon account for Pat
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Rekman @7:00 Thanks, Rekman!

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