WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from September 13, 2023

Listener comments!
	8:21pm headcleaner: That garage, its youthful murals, and the shack next door are no longer with us. But if you head over to Google Streetview now you can get sneak peak at the crisp Fall folliage that is about to be bestowed upon us
	🥁 10:00pm Bobby: It’s later than I think
	10:02pm Carmichael: Tell us frankly
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ headcleaner @8:21 Not sure if I’ve ever been more ready for fall foliage and weather. Bring on the crisp!
	10:03pm Pie: Playlist is being played.
	10:03pm rw: Calmly but sincerely leaving my radio dial set right where it is.
	10:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ Bobby @10:00 Later than you think, earlier than I feel!
	10:04pm Ike: Hot damn.
	10:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:02 It’s all straight dope on If You Lose Your Horse, Carmichael!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:03 Play on playlist! Hi, Pie!
	10:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @10:03 I’ve always admired your serenity, rw.
	10:05pm Pie: Melatonin. "Heavy hitter" ;)
	10:05pm northguineahills: sooprise sooprise, it's now a new 3-story apt... sam, why are you throwing my new hood under your historiscope?!!
	10:06pm Sam Segal: ↳ Ike @10:04 Damn hot hello to you, Ike!
	10:06pm northguineahills: will be 'just visiting' bk/qns oct 3-10....
	10:07pm Carmichael: I just got a 2fer deal on melatonin. Feeling good about that.
	10:07pm Pie: Nicotine gum. Where does this end?! You tell them midnight. Eastern time. But it two sentences - not to be funny. To be real.
	10:08pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @10:07 hour of the wolf...
	10:09pm Sam Segal: ↳ northguineahills @10:06 Amazing news, NGH! Excited for you to be back in these parts.
	10:10pm Pie: Nice to meet you Hilton. Is this Paris?
	10:10pm Sam Segal: I’m a serious melatonin head. At least 12 mg a night.
	10:10pm Hilton: Is this Paris?
	10:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ Hilton @10:10 The photo? It is Brooklyn!
	10:12pm Pie: Oh - jeez ya know - the amount I know.. I tell ya.
	10:13pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Jamming In The Street" by "Sugar Minott" ooohhh Sugar Minott in Wackies 🙌 Bronx’s finest riddims
	10:13pm zzz: ↳ Sam Segal @10:10 dose too high!
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Actually, no I lied. I usually take 9 mg come to think of it. Sometimes 12 though. Those are my melatonin numbers. No one feel obligated to share theirs.
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Hahaha, I know. It’s my main vice, zzz!
	10:14pm northguineahills: ↳ Sam Segal @10:11 (barely, geographically)
	10:16pm Pie: Brooklyn - at my first glance is a Burrough. Not a city. Not sure what that means.
	🥁 10:17pm Bobby: We ARE feeling good tonight
	10:18pm Pie: Sleep is good for everyone. Even the hardest heads I know take their dose.
	10:18pm Carmichael: That’s not high. I take 30-40 mgs at night. I’m amped …
	10:18pm Ike: I'm told melatonin loses its efficacy if you use it too regularly, so I try to be sparing with it. But I'm no doctor; what do I know?!?
	10:18pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @10:16 it was until 1896...
	10:18pm doctorjazz: Hi Sam, Horsemen!
	10:19pm Pie: Interesting NGH!
	10:19pm zzz: OH HERE WE GO
	10:19pm Pie: I'll keep phishing. Jk nothing funny about fraud.
	10:20pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:19 Thank god you’re here to hear this one, zzz!
	10:20pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:19 And Pie. I imagine you’ll appreciate this one too.
	10:20pm zzz: lol. i am impressed so far, though probably shouldn’t be surprised, at how well YEM fits in this context
	10:20pm Pie: Imagination is good.
	10:20pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @10:19 (new york consolidation of 1896 of New York, Kings,Queens, Bronx, and Richmond Counties)
	10:21pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:18 Howdy, Doctor!
	10:21pm Pie: Fascinating - "consolidation" so new..
	10:22pm rw: I’ve never tried melatonin.
	10:22pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "You Enjoy Myself" by "Gone Phishin" Don't know Phish, but like this take on them!
	10:22pm coelacanth∅: good evening Sam, horsepeople
	10:22pm northguineahills: ↳ rw @10:22 it's alright. Can say it's a pro or con...
	10:22pm Pie: Rw you might be on the winning side of history in some senses.
	10:22pm Dean: You heard one Bluegrass cover of a Phish song, you heard 'em all.
	10:23pm Dean: Never tried melatonin, but I dig "In a Mellow Tone."
	10:23pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:22 wrong place. cowfishboy, we're "W/O Horses around here! 😜"
	10:24pm Pie: It's nicer when I don't use it or need it.
	10:24pm Carmichael: Is this Bela Fleck/ Strength in Numbers?
	10:24pm Dean: LA in the '90s you could hear Phish all the time on KPFK's Thursday Lunch.
	10:25pm Sam Segal: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:22 Welcome, Coel!
	10:25pm doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @10:23 In a Mellow Tone would likely lull me to sleep better that melatonin.
	10:25pm chresti: I tried 5-HTP and it really knocked me out. A bit more than I needed.
	10:25pm northguineahills: ↳ Dean @10:22 saw Phish in 95... fun scene, musically, no dead, that's for sure.. (trey anastasio notwithstanding)
	10:25pm Dean: Thursday Lunch aired at night on Fridays.
	10:25pm Pie: Power went out for a sec.
	10:26pm zzz: wow i really enjoyed that. feeling invigorated
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @10:23 but, but... i brought my mustang...
	10:26pm doctorjazz: An old Dead Head, but never found my way to Phish.
	10:26pm Dean: The only Phish-related thing I have is Surrender to the Air. Marshall Allen! https://www.discogs.com/artist/2145885-Surrender-To-The-Air
	10:26pm Pie: Does wfmu give out horses?
	10:26pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:23 If not melatonin, what is your go-to method for falling asleep when you’re having trouble?
	10:27pm northguineahills: ↳ chresti @10:25 still haven't asked if ganja is off the menu w/ my new job. probably will be the first day of work thingy w/ hr or something...
	10:27pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:26 You gotta find your own, I’m afraid.
	10:28pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:26 avatars won't count...
	10:28pm Sam Segal: What is 5-HTP? Hi Chresti!
	10:28pm Dean: I tend to embrace the moment. Insomnia, like so many bad health conditions, is fascinating to experience (for me). But then I went to my dentist this a.m. for a cleaning. I find it wholly restful. Sometimes if I read two or three pages of poetry. Sometimes if I think pleasant thoughts.
	10:29pm coelacanth∅: melatonin doesn't help me much -although i've never tried more than 6mg (double the recommended dose) at a time. l-tryptophan saved my life, once upon a time; but that doesn't help me much either now. nor 5-htp.
	10:29pm Carmichael: Not the Flecktones, but amazing soundalikes.
	10:30pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:24 Not in that Still Phishin band, but I do like Bela.
	10:30pm zzz: ↳ Dean @10:26 this is the direct link of phish to sun ra that i will always hold on to. also to the zorn-iverse
	10:30pm Carmichael: I bought 10 mg pills, pop a couple in my mouth at bedtime.
	10:31pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:30 Oh wow! So you’re a 20 mg person. Mad respect!
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Carmichael @10:30 hmm, maybe tonight i'll take 4 capsules (12mg)
	10:32pm doctorjazz: I actually fall asleep with comfortable in ear headphones (Westone), playing jazz from Neil Young:s old Pono Player. If that doesn't work (occasionally), meditative breathing usually does.
	10:33pm Pie: Who wouldn't!? Heck did you know 18+ you can buy all the nicotine gum you can afford. Chew until your lips are purse/smacked.
	10:33pm chresti: ↳ northguineahills @10:27 they only drug test for jobs that require driving /operating machinery for the city, I think
	10:33pm zzz: definitely some studies showing lower doses melatonin, like 0.3 mg are more effective than larger doses (3 mg) at least in a controlled study in elderly people with insomnia (maybe not exactly Sam’s demographic). another problem with melatonin in the UsA is it’s not regulated so contents are all over the place and some found things like CBD in melatonin gummies. NOt preaching.
	10:33pm Dean: Push comes to shove, I mainline.
	10:34pm Dean: Please, please, please, play The Waybacks' version of Floyd Cramer's "Last Date." You will not be disappointed.
	10:34pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:34 I will seek this out for future programming!
	10:35pm northguineahills: ↳ chresti @10:33 errr, you're probably correct, but, it's for the DEA. after I get my federal security, I'll ask hr...
	10:35pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:33 So you’re saying I should try cutting these pills into tiny pieces?
	10:36pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Opus 57" by "David Grisman Quintet" Love Grisman-saw him in NYC, fun set (he spent much of the set talking about Jerry Garcia).
	10:36pm doctorjazz: ↳ northguineahills @10:35 I'd double check, not sure that's true!
	10:37pm Pie: Don't worry I sleep walk as a trained forensicist.
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: these people are Monking around
	10:37pm zzz: ↳ doctorjazz @10:36 doctorjazz did you ever hear the collaborations of grisman with andy statman? really great stuff,
	10:37pm Pie: Coel - ahahahaha
	10:39pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Bemsha Swing (with Richard Greene & Buell Neidlin... This is GREAT! Buell Neidlinger put out a couple of albums he called Buellgrass, jazz with Bluegrass instruments. Statman played on one of then, great stuff. (Neidlinger also played bass for Cecil Taylor).
	10:40pm doctorjazz: ↳ zzz @10:37 Yup, have those, fun recordings!
	10:41pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:39 Oh wow, wish I’d known about those albums before programming this set. Feel like that material could’ve fit really well. Will definitely seek out more Neidlinger bluegrass stuff.
	10:42pm Pie: Copy cats could be a cool jazz name. Like a piece where everybody gets in a fight leaves the stage to join the crowd and then different musicians return to the stage.
	10:45pm Dean: Neidlinger played with the LA Chamber Orchestra, as did a high school mate of mine, a violinist. I remember attending an LACO concert and noticing one of the violins: "Holy crap, that's Richard!"
	10:46pm doctorjazz: ↳ zzz @10:37 Seen Statman many times (including once, he provided the music for a friend's wedding). For a long time he mostly played Klezmer clarinet-recently he's back to his Roots, mixing it up with some Bluegrass mandolin.
	10:47pm doctorjazz: ↳ Sam Segal @10:41 Have vinyl copies, else I'd send them (haven't figured out an easy way to digitize vinyl...)
	10:48pm Pie: I like the violin more than the flute but I like piano the most - when it comes to soothing music. But a good flute is a good flute. Same goes for the other two as well - when it comes to music and being up and wanting to stay that way for a bit.
	10:51pm headcleaner: Cat considerations are good things to be beset with, overall. Provided one has crossed the threshold of bringing a cat into one's live.
	10:53pm headcleaner: ↳ headcleaner @10:51 "one's life"
	10:55pm doctorjazz: Here's one of the Buellgrass albums... www.discogs.com...
	10:56pm Sam Segal: We’ve brought two cats into our lives in my household, and they are a joy to consider!
	10:56pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:48 I love a flute. Boy, do I love a flute.
	10:58pm Jeff Golick: Digging goblin mode. Hey, Sam, and fellow horse-losers.
	10:59pm doctorjazz: Ok, it's get time, will catch the rest tomorrow, thanks,Sam!
	11:00pm Pie: Sam a great tag line would be "never look too hard - but do look."
	11:00pm Sam Segal: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:58 Jeff! Good to see you. We were swapping melatonin dosages and other sleep aids earlier. Got any tried and true insomnia cures you’d like to share?
	11:00pm Dean: Flute: Telemann fantasias https://www.discogs.com/release/4976172-G-Ph-Telemann-Barthold-Kuijken-G-Ph-Telemann-The-Twelve-Fantasias-For-Transverse-Flute-Without-Bass
	11:00pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:59 Sleep well, Doc!
	11:01pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @11:00 Flute!
	11:02pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Sam Segal @11:00 Alas, I am a champion sleeper and can pretty much fall asleep at any given moment. (I might have a problem!) Melatonin did work for my kids, though, when they had trouble falling asleep.
	11:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:02 A champion sleeper! Makes me wonder if there are any sleeping contests in the world. Surely there must be. Fastest to fall asleep. Longest asleep. Deepest sleep?
	11:11pm Dean: I was a champion sleeper until I wasn't. I'm working on reversing the trajectory.
	11:13pm Dean: But I do almost fall asleep at the dentist, as today.
	11:13pm Pie: There is victory in recovery when you traverse the wrong trajectory.
	11:14pm Dean: Jeff G. @11:02--You're saying that when you took melatonin your kids slept better?
	11:15pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Delight" by "Dynasonic" love it
	11:15pm Dean: Rip Van Winkle, certified Guinness Book record holder
	11:17pm Dean: I used to challenge my kids to sleeping contests. Never worked.
	11:17pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @11:15 They’re calling this band “dubwave.” I think I buy that genre tag, but it is a new one to me.
	11:17pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @11:14 Ha. I was asleep most of the time, but I think they were the ones taking melatonin.
	11:19pm Jeff Golick: All this sleep talk has me fading fast. Thanks for the great sounds and company, Sam. Take care, all!
	11:20pm Sam Segal: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:19 Enjoy your rapid ascent (descent?) to dreamland, Jeff!
	11:20pm Dean: You are getting sleepy, s-l-e-e-p-y. Your eyelids are heavy... You've taken melatonin, and so have your kids...
	11:23pm Pie: I read the book Being There and saw most of the movie.
	11:25pm Dean: Pie: I haven't read the book, but I should. I did see the movie. I adore Peter Sellers, of course, but I simply can't enjoy cinema. So my experience with Being There is complicated.
	🥁 11:30pm WR: All the discussion about sleep has convinced me that I should try some. Thank you! Sam! Laters, all. Hah, I see Jeff already used similar line for his exit... bye for a while.
	11:31pm Dean: Resist sleep!
	11:31pm Sam Segal: ↳ WR @11:30 Enjoy that sleep, WR! Thanks for hanging out.
	11:32pm chresti: There's are growing number of cats that come to the porch to nibble on some cat kibble
	11:33pm Pie: I cannot name one Dead Kennedys song.
	11:33pm rw: What about the one about the Holiday in Cambodia?
	11:33pm Pie: Nor have I listened to Quebec in its entirety - but I liked what I did listen to.
	11:33pm rw: Inn
	11:34pm Sam Segal: ↳ chresti @11:32 You got a colony going, Chresti?
	11:34pm rw: This Anna Webberth is nice. Swell even.
	11:36pm zzz: very cool track. Anna Webber at the Stone next week. Shimmer wince on saturday 9/23 thestonenyc.com...
	11:36pm Sam Segal: Aw shucks, I am glad you agree, rw.
	11:36pm Dean: Pie @11:33 Of course you can. I don't believe you. For example, name one of them "Sandwich."
	11:37pm still b/p: Odd "Being There" note -- The Melvyn Douglas' character in the movie...for the last several years I've had this pipe dream/hope that such people are out there: the nation's most potent power brokers and lever pullers and kingmakers, that most of us know nothing about, who WOULD be the ones -- while they fully enjoy and stridently protect their own privilege, power and wealth -- who would see Trump as WAY too beyond the pale and a true danger and would have the means, the gravity and control, to block, threaten or blackmail him away from any office of real authority and responsibility.
	11:39pm Sam Segal: If only, SBP!
	11:39pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "Kumpa" by "Silvia Bolognesi, Dudù Kouate, Griffin... Fine second-set stuff, Sam
	11:40pm Pie: Pinecrest Pie Crust is Duluths next big hit? On their album "Bobby from down the street/road.
	11:41pm Dean: If only Trump were "way beyond the pale." He was embarrassing, and that irks Americans more than almost anything.
	11:41pm rw: Huh. I guess it IS in.
	11:42pm Pie: Or "Melville Douglas what a wannabe" From "Spice - girl..."?
	11:44pm Sam Segal: ↳ headcleaner @11:39 Thank you, headcleaner. Glad you made it to the wind-down portion of the program.
	11:47pm Pie: (Years later) - Melville you are not the father. Sandwich you are free to go.
	11:48pm Pie: Is Herman Hesse had hermits crabs one?
	11:49pm northguineahills: aight, hosers, back. Unfortunately, getting a car to take you back to a shelter (in that hood), takes a while (and money). less then happy about lyft/uber...
	11:49pm chresti: ↳ Sam Segal @11:34 Must be! They tour the block it seems
	11:50pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @11:48 thanks for keeping the pun-nishment up in my absence! 🙃😜
	11:52pm northguineahills: I found out the bartender, 'who looks to me like she's in her mid-30s' [ex is 40], tell me her mother had her in 1972..., and that's why she hate/loves 90s music... yes, i feel old...(just not that old)
	11:52pm Pie: Now for full nautalism submersion - and I know some of you are trend setters on this one - my vote is for West Virginia. It was almost born to be a submarine - and the people of it are just screaming to be captains instead of admirals.
	11:52pm chresti: Thanks Sam!
	11:53pm northguineahills: however, she did run me down two block to give me my mouse i left (which i need, as mu OS is going nuts)
	11:53pm northguineahills: Sam, I owe you some tea when you see me.... gracias...
	11:53pm Pie: Huge pun. There. Didn't see it until after the post. "Huge pun. There" - intentional..
	11:53pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "Man Won Wou O" by "Gnonnas Pedro & His Dadjes Band" And a fine coda. Well done as usual, Sam.
	11:54pm headcleaner: ↳ Sam Segal @11:44 It (the wind-down portion) is how I tell time Weds evenings, Sam
	11:54pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @11:53 let's put a (w)rap on that, there might even be a big pun !
	11:55pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Man Won Wou O" by "Gnonnas Pedro & His Dadjes Band" totally lovey
	11:55pm zzz: *lovely. but yes i also do lovey
	11:56pm chresti: ↳ zzz @11:55 totally!
	11:56pm zzz: ↳ headcleaner @11:54 how can anyone need a heroic dose of melatonin after Sam’s wind-down set? drifting off with a big smile
	11:57pm still b/p: ("Widow's Mite"...Biblical ref, yes? Didn't know if "Windows Mite" was typo or artist's deliberate twist.) Thanks for dressing the night so well with sounds.
	11:58pm Sam Segal: ↳ still b/p @11:57 The artist’s twist, I think.
	11:59pm Pie: Till next time folks
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!
	11:59pm rw: Nice one. Thank you Sam. Good night everyone!
	12:01am Pi: Went fast. 4 me.
	12:02am Pie: Love and space
	12:02am coelacanth∅: Love and spice
	12:03am northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @12:02 are we dune this?
	12:05am coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @12:03 i missed most of that conversation ... just pondering the spicegirl, Sandwich Spice
	11:06am doctorjazz: Got to hear the rest of the show, great stuff (particularly love the Anna Webber, hope to catch some of her run at The Stone). Thanks, Sam!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Hualun	TV Soul "TV Soul" by "Hualun"	Tempus	Bié	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Wayne Smith	E20 "E20" by "Wayne Smith"	King Jammys Presents Cries From The Youth	VP	0:07:11 (Pop-up)
Sugar Minott	Jamming In The Street	Jamming In The Street	Wackies	0:10:26 (Pop-up)

Gone Phishin	You Enjoy Myself "You Enjoy Myself" by "Gone Phishin"	Still Phishin' - A Bluegrass Tribute to Phish: Vol. 2	CMH	0:19:19 (Pop-up)
Greg Garrison, Grant Gordy, Alex Hargreaves, Joe K. Walsh	The Elephant of Surprise	Bluegrass and the Abstract Truth	Self-Released	0:25:19 (Pop-up)
Noah Fishman & Baron Collins-Hill	Tennessee Mountain Fox Chase	Safe Harbor	Self-Released	0:29:12 (Pop-up)
David Grisman Quintet	Opus 57 "Opus 57" by "David Grisman Quintet"	The David Grisman Quintet	Kaleidoscope	0:34:30 (Pop-up)
Darol Anger	Bemsha Swing (with Richard Greene & Buell Neidlinger)	Diary of a Fiddler	Compass	0:36:01 (Pop-up)
Szilard Mezei Tubass Quintet	Osaka Blues	Rested Turquoise	No Business	0:40:00 (Pop-up)

Innercity Ensemble	SuperGoblin "SuperGoblin" by "Innercity Ensemble"	IV	Instant Classic	0:54:56 (Pop-up)
Howie Lee	One Water of Red Trees "One Water of Red Trees" by "Howie Lee"	Tiān Dì Bù Rén	Do Hits	1:00:34 (Pop-up)
Yuma Abe	Touch It "Touch It" by "Yuma Abe"	Fantasia	Temporal Drift	1:03:04 (Pop-up)
Maii Walid	Mizan "Mizan" by "Maii Walid"	Arab Tunes Mixtape #22 - Girl Power	Arab Tunes	1:05:49 (Pop-up)
Dynasonic	Delight "Delight" by "Dynasonic"	Dynasonic	Instant Classic	1:08:55 (Pop-up)
Golden Teacher	Diop "Diop" by "Golden Teacher"	No Luscious Life	Self-Released	1:16:58 (Pop-up)
Mister Water Wet	Isthmus "Isthmus" by "Mister Water Wet"	Significant Soil	West Mineral Ltd.	1:19:32 (Pop-up)

Anna Webber	Swell "Swell" by "Anna Webber"	Shimmer Wince	Intakt	1:27:40 (Pop-up)
Silvia Bolognesi, Dudù Kouate, Griffin Rodriguez	Kumpa	Timing Birds	Fonterossa	1:37:22 (Pop-up)
Youmna Saba	Gheym "Gheym" by "Youmna Saba"	Njoum	Self-Released	1:43:26 (Pop-up)
Doug Bielmeier	Windows Mite "Windows Mite" by "Doug Bielmeier"	Music for Billionaires	New Focus	1:47:26 (Pop-up)
Gnonnas Pedro & His Dadjes Band	Man Won Wou O	La Crocatuba - Mimi Pinçon	Éditions Gnoinsopé	1:51:32 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:21pm headcleaner: That garage, its youthful murals, and the shack next door are no longer with us. But if you head over to Google Streetview now you can get sneak peak at the crisp Fall folliage that is about to be bestowed upon us
	🥁 10:00pm Bobby: It’s later than I think
	10:02pm Carmichael: Tell us frankly
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ headcleaner @8:21 Not sure if I’ve ever been more ready for fall foliage and weather. Bring on the crisp!
	10:03pm Pie: Playlist is being played.
	10:03pm rw: Calmly but sincerely leaving my radio dial set right where it is.
	10:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ Bobby @10:00 Later than you think, earlier than I feel!
	10:04pm Ike: Hot damn.
	10:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:02 It’s all straight dope on If You Lose Your Horse, Carmichael!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:03 Play on playlist! Hi, Pie!
	10:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @10:03 I’ve always admired your serenity, rw.
	10:05pm Pie: Melatonin. "Heavy hitter" ;)
	10:05pm northguineahills: sooprise sooprise, it's now a new 3-story apt... sam, why are you throwing my new hood under your historiscope?!!
	10:06pm Sam Segal: ↳ Ike @10:04 Damn hot hello to you, Ike!
	10:06pm northguineahills: will be 'just visiting' bk/qns oct 3-10....
	10:07pm Carmichael: I just got a 2fer deal on melatonin. Feeling good about that.
	10:07pm Pie: Nicotine gum. Where does this end?! You tell them midnight. Eastern time. But it two sentences - not to be funny. To be real.
	10:08pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @10:07 hour of the wolf...
	10:09pm Sam Segal: ↳ northguineahills @10:06 Amazing news, NGH! Excited for you to be back in these parts.
	10:10pm Pie: Nice to meet you Hilton. Is this Paris?
	10:10pm Sam Segal: I’m a serious melatonin head. At least 12 mg a night.
	10:10pm Hilton: Is this Paris?
	10:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ Hilton @10:10 The photo? It is Brooklyn!
	10:12pm Pie: Oh - jeez ya know - the amount I know.. I tell ya.
	10:13pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Jamming In The Street" by "Sugar Minott" ooohhh Sugar Minott in Wackies 🙌 Bronx’s finest riddims
	10:13pm zzz: ↳ Sam Segal @10:10 dose too high!
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Actually, no I lied. I usually take 9 mg come to think of it. Sometimes 12 though. Those are my melatonin numbers. No one feel obligated to share theirs.
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Hahaha, I know. It’s my main vice, zzz!
	10:14pm northguineahills: ↳ Sam Segal @10:11 (barely, geographically)
	10:16pm Pie: Brooklyn - at my first glance is a Burrough. Not a city. Not sure what that means.
	🥁 10:17pm Bobby: We ARE feeling good tonight
	10:18pm Pie: Sleep is good for everyone. Even the hardest heads I know take their dose.
	10:18pm Carmichael: That’s not high. I take 30-40 mgs at night. I’m amped …
	10:18pm Ike: I'm told melatonin loses its efficacy if you use it too regularly, so I try to be sparing with it. But I'm no doctor; what do I know?!?
	10:18pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @10:16 it was until 1896...
	10:18pm doctorjazz: Hi Sam, Horsemen!
	10:19pm Pie: Interesting NGH!
	10:19pm zzz: OH HERE WE GO
	10:19pm Pie: I'll keep phishing. Jk nothing funny about fraud.
	10:20pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:19 Thank god you’re here to hear this one, zzz!
	10:20pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:19 And Pie. I imagine you’ll appreciate this one too.
	10:20pm zzz: lol. i am impressed so far, though probably shouldn’t be surprised, at how well YEM fits in this context
	10:20pm Pie: Imagination is good.
	10:20pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @10:19 (new york consolidation of 1896 of New York, Kings,Queens, Bronx, and Richmond Counties)
	10:21pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:18 Howdy, Doctor!
	10:21pm Pie: Fascinating - "consolidation" so new..
	10:22pm rw: I’ve never tried melatonin.
	10:22pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "You Enjoy Myself" by "Gone Phishin" Don't know Phish, but like this take on them!
	10:22pm coelacanth∅: good evening Sam, horsepeople
	10:22pm northguineahills: ↳ rw @10:22 it's alright. Can say it's a pro or con...
	10:22pm Pie: Rw you might be on the winning side of history in some senses.
	10:22pm Dean: You heard one Bluegrass cover of a Phish song, you heard 'em all.
	10:23pm Dean: Never tried melatonin, but I dig "In a Mellow Tone."
	10:23pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:22 wrong place. cowfishboy, we're "W/O Horses around here! 😜"
	10:24pm Pie: It's nicer when I don't use it or need it.
	10:24pm Carmichael: Is this Bela Fleck/ Strength in Numbers?
	10:24pm Dean: LA in the '90s you could hear Phish all the time on KPFK's Thursday Lunch.
	10:25pm Sam Segal: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:22 Welcome, Coel!
	10:25pm doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @10:23 In a Mellow Tone would likely lull me to sleep better that melatonin.
	10:25pm chresti: I tried 5-HTP and it really knocked me out. A bit more than I needed.
	10:25pm northguineahills: ↳ Dean @10:22 saw Phish in 95... fun scene, musically, no dead, that's for sure.. (trey anastasio notwithstanding)
	10:25pm Dean: Thursday Lunch aired at night on Fridays.
	10:25pm Pie: Power went out for a sec.
	10:26pm zzz: wow i really enjoyed that. feeling invigorated
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @10:23 but, but... i brought my mustang...
	10:26pm doctorjazz: An old Dead Head, but never found my way to Phish.
	10:26pm Dean: The only Phish-related thing I have is Surrender to the Air. Marshall Allen! https://www.discogs.com/artist/2145885-Surrender-To-The-Air
	10:26pm Pie: Does wfmu give out horses?
	10:26pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:23 If not melatonin, what is your go-to method for falling asleep when you’re having trouble?
	10:27pm northguineahills: ↳ chresti @10:25 still haven't asked if ganja is off the menu w/ my new job. probably will be the first day of work thingy w/ hr or something...
	10:27pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:26 You gotta find your own, I’m afraid.
	10:28pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @10:26 avatars won't count...
	10:28pm Sam Segal: What is 5-HTP? Hi Chresti!
	10:28pm Dean: I tend to embrace the moment. Insomnia, like so many bad health conditions, is fascinating to experience (for me). But then I went to my dentist this a.m. for a cleaning. I find it wholly restful. Sometimes if I read two or three pages of poetry. Sometimes if I think pleasant thoughts.
	10:29pm coelacanth∅: melatonin doesn't help me much -although i've never tried more than 6mg (double the recommended dose) at a time. l-tryptophan saved my life, once upon a time; but that doesn't help me much either now. nor 5-htp.
	10:29pm Carmichael: Not the Flecktones, but amazing soundalikes.
	10:30pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:24 Not in that Still Phishin band, but I do like Bela.
	10:30pm zzz: ↳ Dean @10:26 this is the direct link of phish to sun ra that i will always hold on to. also to the zorn-iverse
	10:30pm Carmichael: I bought 10 mg pills, pop a couple in my mouth at bedtime.
	10:31pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:30 Oh wow! So you’re a 20 mg person. Mad respect!
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Carmichael @10:30 hmm, maybe tonight i'll take 4 capsules (12mg)
	10:32pm doctorjazz: I actually fall asleep with comfortable in ear headphones (Westone), playing jazz from Neil Young:s old Pono Player. If that doesn't work (occasionally), meditative breathing usually does.
	10:33pm Pie: Who wouldn't!? Heck did you know 18+ you can buy all the nicotine gum you can afford. Chew until your lips are purse/smacked.
	10:33pm chresti: ↳ northguineahills @10:27 they only drug test for jobs that require driving /operating machinery for the city, I think
	10:33pm zzz: definitely some studies showing lower doses melatonin, like 0.3 mg are more effective than larger doses (3 mg) at least in a controlled study in elderly people with insomnia (maybe not exactly Sam’s demographic). another problem with melatonin in the UsA is it’s not regulated so contents are all over the place and some found things like CBD in melatonin gummies. NOt preaching.
	10:33pm Dean: Push comes to shove, I mainline.
	10:34pm Dean: Please, please, please, play The Waybacks' version of Floyd Cramer's "Last Date." You will not be disappointed.
	10:34pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:34 I will seek this out for future programming!
	10:35pm northguineahills: ↳ chresti @10:33 errr, you're probably correct, but, it's for the DEA. after I get my federal security, I'll ask hr...
	10:35pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:33 So you’re saying I should try cutting these pills into tiny pieces?
	10:36pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Opus 57" by "David Grisman Quintet" Love Grisman-saw him in NYC, fun set (he spent much of the set talking about Jerry Garcia).
	10:36pm doctorjazz: ↳ northguineahills @10:35 I'd double check, not sure that's true!
	10:37pm Pie: Don't worry I sleep walk as a trained forensicist.
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: these people are Monking around
	10:37pm zzz: ↳ doctorjazz @10:36 doctorjazz did you ever hear the collaborations of grisman with andy statman? really great stuff,
	10:37pm Pie: Coel - ahahahaha
	10:39pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Bemsha Swing (with Richard Greene & Buell Neidlin... This is GREAT! Buell Neidlinger put out a couple of albums he called Buellgrass, jazz with Bluegrass instruments. Statman played on one of then, great stuff. (Neidlinger also played bass for Cecil Taylor).
	10:40pm doctorjazz: ↳ zzz @10:37 Yup, have those, fun recordings!
	10:41pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:39 Oh wow, wish I’d known about those albums before programming this set. Feel like that material could’ve fit really well. Will definitely seek out more Neidlinger bluegrass stuff.
	10:42pm Pie: Copy cats could be a cool jazz name. Like a piece where everybody gets in a fight leaves the stage to join the crowd and then different musicians return to the stage.
	10:45pm Dean: Neidlinger played with the LA Chamber Orchestra, as did a high school mate of mine, a violinist. I remember attending an LACO concert and noticing one of the violins: "Holy crap, that's Richard!"
	10:46pm doctorjazz: ↳ zzz @10:37 Seen Statman many times (including once, he provided the music for a friend's wedding). For a long time he mostly played Klezmer clarinet-recently he's back to his Roots, mixing it up with some Bluegrass mandolin.
	10:47pm doctorjazz: ↳ Sam Segal @10:41 Have vinyl copies, else I'd send them (haven't figured out an easy way to digitize vinyl...)
	10:48pm Pie: I like the violin more than the flute but I like piano the most - when it comes to soothing music. But a good flute is a good flute. Same goes for the other two as well - when it comes to music and being up and wanting to stay that way for a bit.
	10:51pm headcleaner: Cat considerations are good things to be beset with, overall. Provided one has crossed the threshold of bringing a cat into one's live.
	10:53pm headcleaner: ↳ headcleaner @10:51 "one's life"
	10:55pm doctorjazz: Here's one of the Buellgrass albums... www.discogs.com...
	10:56pm Sam Segal: We’ve brought two cats into our lives in my household, and they are a joy to consider!
	10:56pm Sam Segal: ↳ Pie @10:48 I love a flute. Boy, do I love a flute.
	10:58pm Jeff Golick: Digging goblin mode. Hey, Sam, and fellow horse-losers.
	10:59pm doctorjazz: Ok, it's get time, will catch the rest tomorrow, thanks,Sam!
	11:00pm Pie: Sam a great tag line would be "never look too hard - but do look."
	11:00pm Sam Segal: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:58 Jeff! Good to see you. We were swapping melatonin dosages and other sleep aids earlier. Got any tried and true insomnia cures you’d like to share?
	11:00pm Dean: Flute: Telemann fantasias https://www.discogs.com/release/4976172-G-Ph-Telemann-Barthold-Kuijken-G-Ph-Telemann-The-Twelve-Fantasias-For-Transverse-Flute-Without-Bass
	11:00pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:59 Sleep well, Doc!
	11:01pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @11:00 Flute!
	11:02pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Sam Segal @11:00 Alas, I am a champion sleeper and can pretty much fall asleep at any given moment. (I might have a problem!) Melatonin did work for my kids, though, when they had trouble falling asleep.
	11:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:02 A champion sleeper! Makes me wonder if there are any sleeping contests in the world. Surely there must be. Fastest to fall asleep. Longest asleep. Deepest sleep?
	11:11pm Dean: I was a champion sleeper until I wasn't. I'm working on reversing the trajectory.
	11:13pm Dean: But I do almost fall asleep at the dentist, as today.
	11:13pm Pie: There is victory in recovery when you traverse the wrong trajectory.
	11:14pm Dean: Jeff G. @11:02--You're saying that when you took melatonin your kids slept better?
	11:15pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Delight" by "Dynasonic" love it
	11:15pm Dean: Rip Van Winkle, certified Guinness Book record holder
	11:17pm Dean: I used to challenge my kids to sleeping contests. Never worked.
	11:17pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @11:15 They’re calling this band “dubwave.” I think I buy that genre tag, but it is a new one to me.
	11:17pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Dean @11:14 Ha. I was asleep most of the time, but I think they were the ones taking melatonin.
	11:19pm Jeff Golick: All this sleep talk has me fading fast. Thanks for the great sounds and company, Sam. Take care, all!
	11:20pm Sam Segal: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:19 Enjoy your rapid ascent (descent?) to dreamland, Jeff!
	11:20pm Dean: You are getting sleepy, s-l-e-e-p-y. Your eyelids are heavy... You've taken melatonin, and so have your kids...
	11:23pm Pie: I read the book Being There and saw most of the movie.
	11:25pm Dean: Pie: I haven't read the book, but I should. I did see the movie. I adore Peter Sellers, of course, but I simply can't enjoy cinema. So my experience with Being There is complicated.
	🥁 11:30pm WR: All the discussion about sleep has convinced me that I should try some. Thank you! Sam! Laters, all. Hah, I see Jeff already used similar line for his exit... bye for a while.
	11:31pm Dean: Resist sleep!
	11:31pm Sam Segal: ↳ WR @11:30 Enjoy that sleep, WR! Thanks for hanging out.
	11:32pm chresti: There's are growing number of cats that come to the porch to nibble on some cat kibble
	11:33pm Pie: I cannot name one Dead Kennedys song.
	11:33pm rw: What about the one about the Holiday in Cambodia?
	11:33pm Pie: Nor have I listened to Quebec in its entirety - but I liked what I did listen to.
	11:33pm rw: Inn
	11:34pm Sam Segal: ↳ chresti @11:32 You got a colony going, Chresti?
	11:34pm rw: This Anna Webberth is nice. Swell even.
	11:36pm zzz: very cool track. Anna Webber at the Stone next week. Shimmer wince on saturday 9/23 thestonenyc.com...
	11:36pm Sam Segal: Aw shucks, I am glad you agree, rw.
	11:36pm Dean: Pie @11:33 Of course you can. I don't believe you. For example, name one of them "Sandwich."
	11:37pm still b/p: Odd "Being There" note -- The Melvyn Douglas' character in the movie...for the last several years I've had this pipe dream/hope that such people are out there: the nation's most potent power brokers and lever pullers and kingmakers, that most of us know nothing about, who WOULD be the ones -- while they fully enjoy and stridently protect their own privilege, power and wealth -- who would see Trump as WAY too beyond the pale and a true danger and would have the means, the gravity and control, to block, threaten or blackmail him away from any office of real authority and responsibility.
	11:39pm Sam Segal: If only, SBP!
	11:39pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "Kumpa" by "Silvia Bolognesi, Dudù Kouate, Griffin... Fine second-set stuff, Sam
	11:40pm Pie: Pinecrest Pie Crust is Duluths next big hit? On their album "Bobby from down the street/road.
	11:41pm Dean: If only Trump were "way beyond the pale." He was embarrassing, and that irks Americans more than almost anything.
	11:41pm rw: Huh. I guess it IS in.
	11:42pm Pie: Or "Melville Douglas what a wannabe" From "Spice - girl..."?
	11:44pm Sam Segal: ↳ headcleaner @11:39 Thank you, headcleaner. Glad you made it to the wind-down portion of the program.
	11:47pm Pie: (Years later) - Melville you are not the father. Sandwich you are free to go.
	11:48pm Pie: Is Herman Hesse had hermits crabs one?
	11:49pm northguineahills: aight, hosers, back. Unfortunately, getting a car to take you back to a shelter (in that hood), takes a while (and money). less then happy about lyft/uber...
	11:49pm chresti: ↳ Sam Segal @11:34 Must be! They tour the block it seems
	11:50pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @11:48 thanks for keeping the pun-nishment up in my absence! 🙃😜
	11:52pm northguineahills: I found out the bartender, 'who looks to me like she's in her mid-30s' [ex is 40], tell me her mother had her in 1972..., and that's why she hate/loves 90s music... yes, i feel old...(just not that old)
	11:52pm Pie: Now for full nautalism submersion - and I know some of you are trend setters on this one - my vote is for West Virginia. It was almost born to be a submarine - and the people of it are just screaming to be captains instead of admirals.
	11:52pm chresti: Thanks Sam!
	11:53pm northguineahills: however, she did run me down two block to give me my mouse i left (which i need, as mu OS is going nuts)
	11:53pm northguineahills: Sam, I owe you some tea when you see me.... gracias...
	11:53pm Pie: Huge pun. There. Didn't see it until after the post. "Huge pun. There" - intentional..
	11:53pm headcleaner: ↳ Song: "Man Won Wou O" by "Gnonnas Pedro & His Dadjes Band" And a fine coda. Well done as usual, Sam.
	11:54pm headcleaner: ↳ Sam Segal @11:44 It (the wind-down portion) is how I tell time Weds evenings, Sam
	11:54pm northguineahills: ↳ Pie @11:53 let's put a (w)rap on that, there might even be a big pun !
	11:55pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Man Won Wou O" by "Gnonnas Pedro & His Dadjes Band" totally lovey
	11:55pm zzz: *lovely. but yes i also do lovey
	11:56pm chresti: ↳ zzz @11:55 totally!
	11:56pm zzz: ↳ headcleaner @11:54 how can anyone need a heroic dose of melatonin after Sam’s wind-down set? drifting off with a big smile
	11:57pm still b/p: ("Widow's Mite"...Biblical ref, yes? Didn't know if "Windows Mite" was typo or artist's deliberate twist.) Thanks for dressing the night so well with sounds.
	11:58pm Sam Segal: ↳ still b/p @11:57 The artist’s twist, I think.
	11:59pm Pie: Till next time folks
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!
	11:59pm rw: Nice one. Thank you Sam. Good night everyone!
	12:01am Pi: Went fast. 4 me.
	12:02am Pie: Love and space
	12:02am coelacanth∅: Love and spice
	12:03am northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @12:02 are we dune this?
	12:05am coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @12:03 i missed most of that conversation ... just pondering the spicegirl, Sandwich Spice
	11:06am doctorjazz: Got to hear the rest of the show, great stuff (particularly love the Anna Webber, hope to catch some of her run at The Stone). Thanks, Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from September 13, 2023

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