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Today: Better late than never... Mark covers some tech news he's been waiting awhile to bring up.

Slaves to the machine (by Elizabeth Weise in USA Today, Feb 18, 1999):

Computers were supposed to liberate us and make life easier, but instead they’ve enslaved us. Too hard to use and prone to inexplicable problems, they’re not labor-saving devices -- they’re a whole new kind of labor unto themselves. . . .

PCs provide what psychologists call “intermittent reinforcement,” says [Clifford] Nass, a [Stanford] professor who studies people’s relationship to machines.

“If your car doesn’t turn on, you’re stuck. If your toaster oven doesn’t toast, it’s broken. But computers can half-work. You feel like you’re making progress,” he says.

Conspicuously absent from the ranks of those telling horror stories are Macintosh owners. Not that things don’t go wrong with Macs, but because Apple controls both the hardware and the operating system, there’s less chance of problems.
. . . and note that the iMac, from last August, seems promising.

Are companies like Geocities truly “building communities”? (by Janelle Brown in Salon, January 1999):
GeoCities may call itself the “largest and fastest growing community of personal Web sites on the Internet,” but there’s no community to be found in my neighborhood.

“Community” is quite possibly the most over-used word in the Net industry. True community -- the ability to connect with people who have similar interests -- may well be the key to the digital world, but the term has been diluted and debased to describe even the most tenuous connections, the most minimal interactivity. The presence of a bulletin board with a few posts, or a chat room with some teens swapping age/sex information, or a home page with an e-mail address, does not mean that people are forming anything worthy of the name community.

. . . there's a breakdown between what's being hyped and what's actually happening at these sites: Few of the members actually seem to be communicating with one another. Most people, it seems, just want a place to slap up a picture of their cat.
Tracking Melissa's alter egos (by Luke Reiter for ZDNet, today, April 1, 1999): David L. Smith, from Monmouth County, New Jersey, was arrested for releasing the Melissa e-mail virus. IF you get an e-mail with a Subject line starting "Important Message From," and then with a message body of "Here's that document you asked for. Don't show anyone else ;)" - don't open the attachment! Typical security problem from Microsoft Word and Outlook.

Click Here for Less Confusion (by J.D. Biersdorfer in the NYT, Dec 13, 1998):
Web designers today are trying to pare down their pages, creating sites that are logical as well as luscious. . . . “Web surfers have a very short attention span, and considering how slow modems are today, it’s a challenge to attract someone quickly,” says Jeffrey Veen . . . “We try to grab someone’s attention in less than 10 seconds. That means using almost no complex images -- just text and simple colors for visual cues. . . What many designers forget is they need to explain to their audience how to use a page, as well as how to read it.”
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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtontinatior!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:59pm
ultradamno:

(Techtontinatiors!, rather)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
Handy Haversack:

Mark! Techyons!

Let 'er rip!
  6:01pm
malĥerbo (nl):

Mark! Ack! Hi
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Techtonicians!
  6:01pm
Listener Robert:

Aw, all those great alt groups, and Deja Google has stopped adding new posts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
DanFA:

Alright Hurst, we're on to you. Last week just before your show the entire station website went down and you just so happened to be off then. Pretty sneaky, siss.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
steveo:

oh hey woah not the music i was expecting :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
bleubombersune:

Good evening Mark and everyone
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Song: "Koopa Troopa Beach" by "Kenta Nagata"
I recognized this immediately
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Deano de los Muertos:

Hello mark and Techtachyons
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Paul with a P:

just play this for the entire hour plz
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

Good evening Mark! Hello techtonicons! I'm listening through the app on my Apple head cage
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
steveo:

==== 30 in isp.chat -- read? [+ynq] galt.dinosaurs.barney.die.die.die
No alt.dinosaurs.barney.die.die.die!

==== 30 in isp.chat -- read? [+ynq]
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
DanFA:

↳ Paul with a P @6:03
It is April Fools Day, so Mark could be punking us.
  6:05pm
Listener Robert:

He's been waiting years for April 1 to all on a Monday. But those old stories contain much truth.
  6:05pm
Marie in Chicago:

Heard a great interview about the internet and some tech giants with Kara Swisher who just wrote a book about those things--"Burn Book"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ steveo @6:04
I was gonna say!
  6:06pm
Holland Oatzier Holland:

Facial recognition cameras in Bronx bodegas!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

I used to have a book like this so i could take my bookmarks to school with me
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
DanFA:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:05
It's on my list
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Handy Haversack:

I think I went from 1993 to 2000 without owning my own computer. Only in 2000 did I have a computer and internet access in my apt. I don't think I'd really looked at websites until then. Back in the day, I'd been on BBSes at a friend's place but never had a modem of my own. I had to be told by a girlfriend in 1998 to use websites to look for a job -- and then did so at her job!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
steveo:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:06
maybe our isp just doesn't carry it :)
alt.dreams.lucid is still there with 2 unexpired articles
Avatar 🤖 6:07pm
herb.nyc:

Read later, mark is talking

Hola. This music brings me to some Caribbean island. Or the platform of Atlantic Ave on the B Q line. Anyway, Ewaste events led by LES Ecology Center. (Typos are courtesy of copy and paste of a photo. Who knew you can copy and paste text from a photo?)

04/06/24- Sunset Park (6th Avenue b/w 44th & 45t
04/07/24 -Elatbush_Elatbush Food Co-op).
04/10/24 - Elatiron (Elatiron South Plaza).
04/13/24 -South Jamaica (Jamaica Playground).
04/14/24 -Financial District (Eulton Street b/w Ryde cliff st).
04/14/24 - Lower East Side (Tompkins Square Park)
04/20/24 -Maspeth (Maspeth Federal Saving Bank)
4pm
04/21/24 -Ypper West Side (Marlene Meyerson JCC
Manhattan)
04/27/24- Bayridge (St. Anselm Church).
04/28/24- Park Slope (John
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
joe mulligan:

I used to go to alt.rec.bicycles back in the early 90s
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
JeremyB:

I remember devilbunnies
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
chris in the redwoods:

i think i remember visiting alt.dreams.lucid…
hi, Mark and folks.
Avatar 6:08pm
Ike:

I liked rec.arts.sf.tv a lot.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ herb.nyc @6:07
I feel bad for all the NYers who live far from Greenpoint and our municipal recycling and waste centers.
Avatar 🤖 6:10pm
herb.nyc:

Click on Melissa. In months to come, then bring yr computer to Ewaste. Visit Handy in greenpoint while yr there
Avatar 🤖 6:11pm
herb.nyc:

Melissa was name of bill gates’ first wife?
  6:11pm
Listener Robert:

Hell, I still went frequently to alt.fan.cecil-adams and posted to alt.tv.lost just a few weeks ago. I hadn't had a NNTP client in many years, and had been relying on Google Groups, but just a month ago they stopped being a 2-way gateway and stopped feeding new material.
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Ike:

Y2K bug coverage coming?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Acid Cazh:

I hate Outlook so deeply, from the bottom of my rage-filled black throbbing heart of darkness.
  6:12pm
Listener Robert:

↳ Ike @6:08
Sometimes my alt.tv.lost posts got cross-posted to rec.arts.sf.tv
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
steveo:

i used to have an alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe t-shirt
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hey, if any of you are on Echo, or the Well, I'm "Nemo".
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonians!
We hate outlook!
Avatar 🤖 6:14pm
herb.nyc:

Funny. In Scott Shapiro PHISHING … book, he said Microsoft got much better w security in late 90s(?), after being caught flat footed
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
DanFA:

↳ chresti @6:14
What's wrong with Outlook?
  Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Enflod:

So the prank is, all this news is really old?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
paddy in matawan:

alt.music.ween
  6:15pm
Kroma:

a/s/l ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
joe mulligan:

there was an old viral post about a study that people who use the Microsoft Edge browser are proven to be less intelligent
  6:15pm
Dean:

"Conspicuously absent from the ranks of those telling horror stories are Macintosh owners. Not that things don’t go wrong with Macs, but because Apple controls both the hardware and the operating system, there’s less chance of problems."
I was astonished then, I'm astonished now. So mistaken.
  Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Enflod:

Thereby showing the (sadly) continuing relevance of the tech world's dangers?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Enflod @6:14
It were e'er thus.
  6:15pm
Listener Robert:

Any of you youngsters who think it odd to have a handwritten notebook with Usenet addresses, rather than a file of links, consider that most were not using the Web then.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Enflod @6:15
Plus ça change ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

Mark. Techies.
  6:16pm
Dean:

When the public library where I worked in the early '90s began offering public access to the Internet, there was no WWW. We trained the public how to use Gopher, WAIS, etc.
  6:16pm
Listener Robert:

↳ Enflod @6:14
The real joke is, IT'S STILL RELEVANT!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Webhamster Henry:

WFMU Marathons of the past: jhhl.net...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
ultradamno:

Unless it's the brakes.
  6:17pm
wenzo:

My toaster over half works
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Acid Cazh:

↳ DanFA @6:14
I'm forced to use Outlook because it's what my employer uses, and it eats up approximately 90 to 240 minutes of my time each day — the search function doesn't work, attachments disappear after they're sent... the worst is that desktop notifications on Mac behave inconsistently, and since I work somewhere where it's not uncommon to receive 300 emails a day, if I miss a desktop notification that email is gone, baby, gone, and sometimes missing an urgent email will create an extra 9 to 15 hours of work to catch up.

My last employer used Gmail. Never had issues like this.
  6:18pm
Dean:

Prof. Nass' analogy is fallacious. If your computer doesn't turn on, you are also stuck.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

My car kind of works as long as you don't need it to go in first gear
  6:19pm
traven:

↳ ultradamno @6:17
. . . Or the steering wheel comes off in your hands.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Webhamster Henry:

freeform.wfmu.org the old WFMU front page (probably later than 1999 though)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:16
Thanks, for this, WHH!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Acid Cazh:

↳ NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA @6:18
I learned to drive a stick in a car that had no first gear and no reverse.

I highly recommend it — makes it easy to drive a stick in almost any other setting.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
paddy in matawan:

My Windows PCs that I build myself every 7 - 10 years run fine. I rarely have issues and keep them powered on for most of their life.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Acid Cazh @6:18
Mine uses Gmail, but I refuse to interact with it and run my e-mail through Thunderbird, and it's great. I mean, "great."
  6:23pm
Shredders:

Computers used to be a lot flakier than they are now
  6:23pm
Dean:

WFMU, Jan. 10, 1998
https://web.archive.org/web/19980110023043/https://freeform.wfmu.org/
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

This is a stick, the reverse is in the same slot as first gear but you have to toggle a switch to get it to go in reverse, the switch is stuck on so no first gear only reverse
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21
oh man that's right Creamo Coyl fills in for Daniel Blumin tonight... it says so on the link you posted
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:22
I should hire you as a consultant!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

I'm never going back to a Windows machine.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:22
I concur, my PCs are pretty stable
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
ultradamno:

I always pronounced it to rhyme with atrocities
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
newton:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:23
I think he is off for two weeks
  6:25pm
Dean:

"Community," yep, beaten to death by Howard Rheingold c.2000.
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Mister Dobalina:

m/40/nYc
  6:25pm
Sam:

Every kid staring at a phone instead of playing together in the park. What great community!
  6:25pm
jan:

Apple has been unimaginably helpful for me using my mac equipment. I’m too old to have an inborn capability with digital equipment. I’ve had to call their customer service sometimes daily helping me with Final Cut video editing software. They sometimes hold my hand and walk me through my problems which can take an hour or longer. They are doing this with my 4 year old mac. Apple has certainly put their profits into customer support.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
paddy in matawan:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:24
Newegg? I still use that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Dano59:

Had a lovely - by which i mean bad, mad, frustrating - time trying to set up a Roku box this wkd. Just the ad tracking opt-out process took over an hour. Then I find out my streaming subscriptions are no longer compatible, despite having their own buttons on the remote! grrrr. AppleTV (an app not even considered by Roku) was bad enough ...
  6:26pm
Dean:

Shoot, Rheingold's Virtual Community originally appeared in '94, revised in 2000!
  6:26pm
Andres:

Someday I will sign up so that I can use a photo of my cat as my avatar.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:26
the last real desktop I built was mainly parts from newegg in 2017
  6:27pm
Saltonstall:

Can Mark keep this up for another half hour?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Webhamster Henry:

As long as it's the 90s: WFMU-TV: www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
The Butterman:

↳ Ike @6:12
Quick, change your avatar!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Yvang:

I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist but I am pretty sure something will happen to the twin towers in the near future...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Mike From Brooklyn:

Hey Mark & Listeners!
geocities seems to be down.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

I should see if my geocities, angelsfire, and tripod sites are still up
  6:28pm
Dean:

Granted, Virtual Community was primarily about the WELL.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Deano de los Muertos:

Hi Mark 👋
  6:28pm
Sam:

Nobody ever brings up that site
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Dano59:

OK, a Q: Is there an obsolete devices site for streaming - like Low End Mac? I had obsolescence and proprietary companies like Apple (used to love the design, but anymore ...)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

oooh what's your AOL IM, or ICQ, or Trillian accounts... mIRC anyone?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Dano59:

"I *hate* obsolescence," I mean
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Franco Twinkie:

Not cats - burritos. For all the time I spent cataloging and sharing my lunch, there is very little emotional renumeration
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Megaroni:

Has it been talked about Blackrock buying Ukraine and making it all “15 min cities”…?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
DjLorraine:

Will the show end with the Allman Brothers tune?
Avatar 6:29pm
joe_rosevear:

Hey, Mark. Sounds like you like Macs. That's OK. Macs are pretty good. Like you said, they work!

You know that there is another choice--Linux! I'm a proud Slackware Linux User.
  6:30pm
Saltonstall:

Mark- there is a new website called friendster.com

Using the web, you link up with like minded friends.

It seems innocent enough. You should try it. What’s the worst that could happen?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

You know I think the Internet is a great place for sharing game genie codes for my Nintendo. It's so frustrating that you have to start over from the beginning every time you load up Super Mario Bros
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Dano59:

↳ Dean @6:16
the first online BB I heard about was The Well in SF - the home of rec.music.grateful-dead
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
chresti:

mac- good, iPhone- bad?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
iiibeat:

I wonder how Mark feels about the recently announced Kennedy - Shanahan ticket . .
  6:31pm
Adi from Sheffield:

😂
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:29
With the exception of DjLorraine and The Butterman of course.
  6:32pm
Dean:

WFMU's own Uncle Michael continues to interact and meet with some frequency with WELL denizens.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
DanFA:

Napster is still around?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Dano59:

haha I used LimeWire
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Webhamster Henry:

DJ Kenny G was a big Limewirer!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Dano59:

↳ Dean @6:32
I believe it!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ DanFA @6:32
it is, but not how we remember it
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
chresti:

↳ DanFA @6:32
Ha I was wondering..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
paddy in matawan:

Hahaha. Soulseek FTW.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Dean @6:32
I'm still a host on ECHO!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

↳ DanFA @6:32
Fr fr Napster is a legit music streaming service now, they're one of the better paying services for artists
  6:33pm
Andres:

House sitter installed Morpheus on our PC. Holy heck was it hard to uninstall.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Dano59:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:32
I still have some "partial" Limewire mp3s on an old Mac
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Handy Haversack:

Stashu is on the cutting edge!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

but it was bearshare too
  6:33pm
Saltonstall:

The information superhighway is moving rapidly, some would say too rapidly. Beware of a website called Wikipedia.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
DanFA:

FBI OPEN UP
Avatar 6:33pm
joe_rosevear:

alt.os.linux.slackware

is a neat place to go, if you are a Slackware Linux user!
  6:34pm
i am Kyrgios O’rang:

I was curious abt the NPR report today on Google & “Incognito” mode (& it’s mis-information bias re cookies 🍪 & third party blah yadda blah) ?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Dano59:

↳ Song: "Interview with Stashu and ChukAmok"
I see a bright future for these kids
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
paddy in matawan:

Everyone covered Gin and Juice as a country song too.
  6:34pm
Shredders:

Audiogalaxy. Remember that one?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Mark Hurst:

Post your question here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
steveo:

typo alert wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
DanFA:

Mark, do you do any shopping online? If so, what do you use to buy household appliances?
  6:35pm
Adi from Sheffield:

Pringles tin connected to WiFi card then pointed at University campus...limewire to go.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Acid Cazh:

ca. 1990 or so, I ran a dial-up BBS on WWIV software. I was twelve years old.

Super cool and ahead of the times.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Dano59:

ask about their Y2K plans, Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Adi from Sheffield @6:35
Now I'm hungry!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
joe mulligan:

Is this a pretend interview from the early 90s?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Deano de los Muertos:

Mark, do you wanna go see that new Brad Pitt flick, Interview with a Vampire?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
-жеи:

Realplayer is the best! Audionet just started recording Seven Second Delay every week and makes the files available as ram files it’s a little tinny but hey!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
DanFA:

↳ Dano59 @6:35
This Beyonce girl is gonna be huge.
  6:36pm
Saltonstall:

Is this Wikipedia.com the greatest threat to truth on the information superhighway?
  6:36pm
Listener Robert:

I'm dialing in to a BBS that makes UUCP connection to the nets twice a day.
  6:36pm
Andres:

I was just reading a copy of the local weekly that was left on the streetcar. An article about WFMU. Asked Jeeves to find the Real Audio connection. Monica is my fave show!
  6:36pm
jan:

These interviews could be sold as collectibles on eBay!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
newton:

I used shelflife!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Dano59:

↳ DanFA @6:35
just saw her in the new Austin Powers flik
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Dano59:

As I always say, "Life's a bitch @ 2400 baud"
  6:37pm
Adi from Sheffield:

40 Mb will be enough for anyone 😉
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
paddy in matawan:

↳ -жеи @6:35
Real Player was filled with some bad software though. WinAmp. It really kicks the llama's ass.
  6:37pm
i am Kyrgios O’rang:

This Easter Sunday - our family got into an excitable discussion over the burgeoning of mostly computer run vehicles - if the computer is not working properly - is your car still safe to drive / let alone Will it be drivable at all ?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
steveo:

↳ Dano59 @6:37
300 baud was great though; you could read as fast as the text was output
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DanFA:

↳ Dano59 @6:36
Oh man, I forgot about that.
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chresti:

I loved Napster- my son and his friend had a blast insulting people (they were 12)
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Andres @6:36
If you want to know who's on the air, you can just send an email to the infobot at info@ wfmu.org with the subject "schedule"
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Dano59:

↳ chresti @6:38
go see it!
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herb.nyc:

From pavement liner notes- “we didn’t know who to sign with, matador or touch & go. But we went w matador since they had a fax machine”
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iiibeat:

Fooled me
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Handy Haversack:

I don't think I touched a computer in college. I watched someone play Doom a few times was the closest I came. 1993-1997.
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ultradamno:

I like this new art/game site superbad.com
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Acid Cazh:

I use Linux for my web server. I've installed it on some old MacBooks to play around with desktop Linux distros, but none of it's really grabbed me...
  6:40pm
Dean:

Wish I could find that David Lowery rant about Napster...
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

Mark, this post took me over 300 punch cards to make
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joe mulligan:

don't forget Ask Jeeves!
  6:41pm
honest Bernardo from Argentina:

This blast from the past is fabulous
  6:41pm
Dean:

I interviewed Kevin Bacon's personal assistant.
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iiibeat:

Maybe somebody will make Myspace one day . ..
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paddy in matawan:

My friend tried to get me to join Friendster. It was so long after that I finally caved in and joined fb.
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Webhamster Henry:

Whenever I was forced on a Windows platform, I'd install cygwin so I wouldn't have to figure out the windows commandline.
  6:41pm
Fredericks:

I've have a couple questions, Mark. What do you make the attempt by the U.S. to take over Tik Tok? And here in Florida, Gov. DeSantis is trying to prevent younger teens from using social media. Is that, even realistically possible? And, if yes, what do you think the results might be?
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herb.nyc:

↳ NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA @6:40
Haha. I used punch cards in college. We had to name our programs and I’d sometimes use LUCY SHOW characters, like Fred and Ethel
  6:41pm
Shredders:

Or Dogpile
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xtrakrispy:

This is freaking me out.
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ultradamno:

↳ joe mulligan @6:41
Like everyone in Indiana, I use Altavista
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chresti:

It took about 2 days to download photoshop with dial up
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Dano59:

I interviewed John Linnell ca. 1999 about his new digital album and the phenomenon of downloading, mp3.com, etc.
(he'd sent me a hard copy of the album _ I said "I'm one of the lucky ones, I don't have to bother with downloading with a dialup modem and 40MB on my little Mac"
John, sardonically: "Oh yes, Dan, you're one of the lucky ones...")
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The Butterman:

Check out the new PC jr. computer. Let’s play King’s Quest.
  6:42pm
ledzeppelinsucks:

What are you wearing?
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joe mulligan:

↳ ultradamno @6:41
I remember that too!
  6:42pm
yippie:

like the old song barney google
  6:42pm
Bill G:

I give Apple 6 months tops before out of business. They aren’t going to invent internet phones or anything cool like that to hold all my Napster music
  6:42pm
Dean:

Google?! What a silly name. They should have called it Paycheck, which is also 1 with a hundred zeros after it.
  6:42pm
Brendan:

10010011 10011101 00110111 2?
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ultradamno:

Fight DIVX!
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Acid Cazh:

↳ Dano59 @6:42
They really pioneered the free music waaay back in the day with their Dial-a-Song
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herb.nyc:

↳ ledzeppelinsucks @6:42
Hey, did I speak w you earlier today? (Serious question)
  6:43pm
Saltonstall:

dogpile.com is amazing… it takes yahoo, Netscape, Altavista, ask Jeeves, and other search engines and puts them all together for a super search
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paddy in matawan:

↳ The Butterman @6:42
I loved Police Quest too. Sierra Games were awesome.
  6:43pm
Dean:

Early Google slogan: "Get off Google!"
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

↳ herb.nyc @6:41
We had a punch card Christmas wreath my dad brought home from work one year, they made it when they switched over to tape reels
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chresti:

Now my head's exploding now..
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xtrakrispy:

I had an email address in 1986. dphillip@elbereth.rutgers.edu. You can still find remnants of my posts out there….
  6:43pm
Tom in St. Paul:

Mark ❤️ Google!
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joe mulligan:

↳ Shredders @6:41
that was the original meta search engine
  6:43pm
jelly jams:

I keep getting Nikolai Gogol & or Gogol Bordello popping up.
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Dano59:

↳ herb.nyc @6:41
I work for a hardware wholesaler / shipper operating a cantankerous big room-filling computer - it better not break down, last time I had to reprogram it with punch cards.
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Bas NL:

MySpace used to be my place to go.. until it was taken over and all my dozens of concert reviews got screwed up.
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Deano de los Muertos:

call me old fashioned, but when I want to search the movie times, I just dial up MovieFone
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Dano59:

(me in 1986)
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Webhamster Henry:

The non evil Google was pretty good!
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Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:37
it whips the Llama's ass
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Barbie:

Ironic
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paddy in matawan:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:44
I stand corrected!
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ultradamno:

AOL is fine, but I will die using WebTV
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Dano59:

Hey Frankie, you got a copy of the Remote Desktop Client?
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Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:44
I still use it on a few computers
  6:46pm
Dean:

I never type *my* credit card number online!
  6:46pm
Dean:

Does Amazon.com take you to the first feminist bookstore in the country?
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DanFA:

Ok, this joke is old.
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Dano59:

buying a refrigerator online. Imagine!
  6:47pm
Saltonstall:

Luckily with Borders and Barnes and Noble, we’ll always have brick and mortar bookstores
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Webhamster Henry:

There are a couple of really cool Java applets that are appearing out there - safer than those Flash apps!
  6:47pm
Dean:

When will Rick Astley's big hit finally be available online?
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

↳ Dano59 @6:46
Dano one day people will be buying on their online refrigerator
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paddy in matawan:

One day you will be able to order a pizza online!
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joe mulligan:

hey Mark, I want to buy this bike from someone in Massachusetts on alt.rec.bicycles but don't know if I should trust them, it's $600. how do I know if the person is legit?
  6:47pm
SegFish:

This is definitely an episode where you miss something important if you miss the beginning
  6:48pm
Bill G:

Dean - Women & Women 1st in Portland is the first and last feminist book store in the country
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paddy in matawan:

COVID was just the boost we needed to enhanced online pizza ordering!
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Dano59:

I'm beta-testing this thing called Hypercard - just made a little animation of a moose.
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Bas NL:

Anyone notice WinAmp doesn't play WFMU archives anymore?
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joe_rosevear:

Instead of google.com I like duckduckgo.com
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The Butterman:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:43
Oh I didn’t know that one. I
Peaked at kings quest!
  6:49pm
Dean:

I thought Amazon Bookstore Cooperative in Minneapolis was the first. Lost their trademark battle against Amazon.
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Dano59:

↳ joe mulligan @6:47
if you meet them in person and it seems fishy, just tell them you forgot the money.
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herb.nyc:

Did mark say SEE PEE? Haha
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ultradamno:

I think this show is dancing around tackling the real tough issues like accidentally starting a global thermonuclear war while gaming.
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Will thee SG OCNY:

I remember when M📺 started posting video clips online... i think a 30 second video clip of Ruby Soho took like 3 hours to download
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paddy in matawan:

Whoa we are all now officially less than 7 degrees from Bacon!! Awesome!
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

↳ The Butterman @6:49
Oh man I loved Sierra online's dungeon crawlers Shadow of Yserbius and The Fates of Twinion
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Deano de los Muertos:

I wonder if Clippy the Paperclip was invovled in David L. Smith’s capture
  6:51pm
Saltonstall:

I think it’s clear that web pornography will never be a thing. In the time it takes to download a single picture you could walk down to the 7-11 and buy a brand spanking new issue of Hustler
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-жеи:

For the first ten minutes of my drive home tonight, I thought Mark was having a stroke
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joe mulligan:

↳ Dano59 @6:49
ha!
  6:51pm
tonyb:

Do you recommend NetFree?
  6:51pm
Listener Robert:

↳ ultradamno @6:50
If that ever happens, just press ctrl-F5 and that'll fix it.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ ultradamno @6:42
In the bottom of my bedroom closet is a DIVX baseball hat from a TV commercial I worked that that never aired. DIVX tanked before it got out of post production.
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paddy in matawan:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:51
I used to try to torture Clippy.
  6:52pm
Tom in St. Paul:

when was the term "streaming" audio first popularized? I think that's a tell.
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Fuzzy:

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
  6:52pm
Bob in DC and/or Virginia:

My favorite search engine is Veronica. It gives you answers from WAIS and Gopher in 20-30 minutes, tops!
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

Mark any thoughts on Netzero for free Internet service
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paddy in matawan:

Who remembers Johnny Castaway screensaver?
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Mike Sin:

Most folks don't know that Amazon first began as a record label: www.discogs.com...
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Webhamster Henry:

BTW, the way to pronounce "Yahoo!" is to pay attention to that exclamation point, so "ya HOOOO!"
  6:52pm
Dean:

Oh, yeah! I remember Veronica!
  6:52pm
traven:

↳ Saltonstall @6:51
Do they still publish?
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Deano de los Muertos:

↳ paddy in matawan @6:51
🔪📎
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Dean @6:52
That was a riff on the Archie FTP search engine!
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paddy in matawan:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:53
Poor Clip.
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Acid Cazh:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:22
I thought they stopped making Thunderbird, I've been looking for a bottle for ages now.
  6:53pm
Bernie in Pitt:

My professor just got our class invited to a new site called “The Facebook” where you need an edu email address to log on. We can see class announcements and pictures of our classmates. It’s kinda neat.
  6:53pm
Dean:

Yes! Veronica and Archie. It's all coming back to me...
  6:54pm
Andres:

The best websites use neon colours and a different font for every link.
  6:54pm
Bob in DC and/or Virginia:

I'm pretty psyched about the Internet Underground Music Archive, too. That has to be the future of music online.
  6:54pm
Saltonstall:

If the information superhighway is merely a series of tubes, does that mean that the tubes have to be cyber-rodded out every so often?
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Webhamster Henry:

I get on the internet by by dialing into panix.com and running SLIP.
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Andres @6:54
<blink> tag </blink>
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Dano59:

↳ Bob in DC and/or Virginia @6:54
and live365.com - it's free!
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Fuzzy:

I use pine to check my email at world.std.com.
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Mike Sin:

Which provides better email: prodigy.net or LycosMail.net?
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Franco Twinkie:

No complex images!? I'm outta here!
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Dano59:

there it is
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steveo:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:54
so does the dj on next!
  6:56pm
Saltonstall:

Art Bell has been featuring the Y2K bug lately on his Coast to Coast radio show. Check your am dial late a night for a listen.
  6:56pm
Bob in DC and/or Virginia:

↳ Mike Sin @6:55
I prefer the email at well.sf.ca.us, though I have to log in through the Compuserve Packet Network to avoid the long distance phone charges.
  6:56pm
Bernie in Pitt:

Oh shit I’m in the wrong year here in 2004…
  6:56pm
Dean:

Can I use the Internet to visit WFMU?
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Mark. The future is now. And it sucks.
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ steveo @6:55
there are quite a number of people still on Panix!
  6:57pm
Listener Robert:

I simulated the rollover to 2000 on my 386. Worked fine.
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Dano59:

↳ Saltonstall @6:56
Larry King mentioned it about 3 am on Friday. it's not happening for 8 months! jeez.
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Will thee SG OCNY:

we had magic carpet as an ISP for a while... it allows for blasing fast browsing
  6:57pm
Andres:

Gold, whisky and ammo will be the only currency on Jan 1.
  6:57pm
Aye-Aye:

Beautifully done!
  6:57pm
ben & Reba:

Thank you Mark
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Deano de los Muertos:

Fun show Mark!
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steveo:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:56
i'm reading panix.chat.politics as we "speak"!
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chris in the redwoods:

hilarious, Mark. thank you! :)
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mario!
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paddy in matawan:

fun stuff Mark!
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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Bas NL:

<Bold>Thanks Mark!</Bold>
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Acid Cazh:

www.youtube.com...
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Will thee SG OCNY:

Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
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listener 126464:

Thank you, Mark!
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Zinn The Mood:

It’s insane to think how much the world has been twisted in these 25 years.

Great job on this, Mark.
  6:58pm
Saltonstall:

Brilliant. Hurst rules
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ steveo @6:57
Yeah! My panix website is a backup of afmm.org...
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joe mulligan:

Run Lola Run was so much fun
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Dano59:

1999 will go down as a banner year in cinema (and probably in the annual Playboy roundup too)
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steveo:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:58
nice!
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Dano59:

↳ Bas NL @6:57
winner winner - well done
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Handy Haversack:

↳ Acid Cazh @6:53
No, it's great! I refuse to let it go! For work e-mail. At home, the internet is a barren land where Google finds no purchase.
  6:59pm
Bob in DC and/or Virginia:

At least that Donald Trump guy is over with. Won't be hearing from that clown again.
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Franco Twinkie:

I think I need to go for a jog - all this future is a little hard to digest.
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:

Thanks Mark!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Fingers crossed on that Y2K problem later this year.
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Dano59:

anyone wanna go into an AOL chat room later and start some sh**?
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_Ike_:

↳ steveo @6:55
You mean The Green Room with Dorian Devins?
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ultradamno:

↳ Bob in DC and/or Virginia @6:59
I read about that guy in Spy, what a buffoon!
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Fuzzy:

Thanks Mark!
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Dano59:

"and this is where our troubles began" <sigh>
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Dano59 @7:00
Thanks for partying like it's 1999!
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Mark Hurst:

↳ steveo @6:34
Fixed, thanks!
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