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Favoriting April 22, 2024: Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them"

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Today: Eve Herold, author, “Robots and the People Who Love Them”

Robots and the People Who Love Them: Holding on to Our Humanity in an Age of Social Robots , by Eve Herold

eveherold.com

Healthspan Action Coalition

Engineering household robots to have a little common sense, MIT News, March 25, 2024

Tech exec predicts billion-dollar AI girlfriend industry (Futurism, April 13, 2024): “former WeWork exec Greg Isenberg said that after meeting a young guy who claims to spend $10,000 a month on so-called ‘AI girlfriends,’ or relationship-simulating chatbots, he realized that eventually, someone is going to capitalize upon that market the way Match Group has with dating apps.”

Philosophy Talk, April 15, 2024 episode: “As we approach the advent of autonomous robots, we must decide how we will determine culpability for their actions. Some propose creating a new legal category of “electronic personhood” for any sufficiently advanced robot that can learn and make decisions by itself. But do we really want to assign artificial intelligence legal—or moral—rights and responsibilities?”

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  Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them"
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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonomotons!
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ultradamno:

Ways Robot Wives Will Solve The Western Dating Crisis www.theonion.com...
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonbots!
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chresti:

↳ chresti @5:56
or Techtonibots!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
chresti:

I bought a bar of soap for earth day
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Webhamster Henry:

[✔︎] I am not a robot
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
ultradamno:

Always a special day for me, but I'm biased being from there
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Fuzzy:

What -- no Lost In Space robot in that picture? That does not compute!
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Mark! Techtonicicians!
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PaulRobeson1924:

Morninggggg
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tim:

Hey Mark and everyone! The author interviews always make for a great show!
  6:03pm
David (in London):

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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joe_rosevear:

Howdy! Sorry I'm late.
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Deano de los Muertos:

Hello Mark. Resist the robot! 🤖🦾🦿
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joe_rosevear:

Not a robot, but I'm *friends* with an AI.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hey : New Boston Robotics Atlas is so strange. 360° joints! www.wired.com...
Avatar 🤖 6:06pm
herb.nyc:

Robots? How do we know a robot hasnt hijacked Techtonic? And not for the first time? And maybe the robot helped Eve write the book?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
I love this picture. hahaha!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
tim:

My love life is so bad that my love robot told me that they had a headache.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
ultradamno:

↳ Fuzzy @6:02
No Ava (Ex Machina) or Moloch The Corruptor (Buffy ep I Robot...You Jane)...or the Logan's Run Box.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
coelacanth∅:

i think people who love the idea of personal robots, as with people who think colonizing mars is practical, are for the most part, boys that never grew up.
  6:08pm
traven:

↳ Fuzzy @6:02
Never fear - Smith is here!
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ultradamno:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:06
But a built in ring light for your Tik Tok making needs
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joe_rosevear:

But are they AI-based?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ tim @6:07
no respect, i tell ya.
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MarciB:

Domo arigato Mr Roboto
  6:09pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

Evening Mark & Technocrats!

Somewhat on subject, who remembers "Heartbeeps"?
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herb.nyc:

Al Gore is pretty stiff. Andi Macdowell is a wooden actress. Be them Robots?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

ultra, chresti, webham, fuzzy, wendy, paulR, tim, DiL, joe_r, deano, herb, coel, traven, chris , marci, A->B - welcome! Thanks for joining this evening.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
tim:

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:09
Heart beeps is USA Up All Night gold!
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:06
Yes it's an exquisite meme - glad you caught that!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
tim:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:09
I’m glad you understand.
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coelacanth∅:

yes robot comfort is so much better than human comfort
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
swivs:

If you've ever seen the 1986 documentary "Chopping Mall" you'll know these robots are a bad idea.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:09
hi, Mark! happy to be here.
  6:11pm
Tom from Stirling:

No robot umpires. please.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:07
Not to mention the Buffybot, come to think of it....
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MarciB:

Will we all have our personal Rosey the Robot?
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Mark Hurst:

↳ swivs @6:10
Good pointer!
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tim:

↳ swivs @6:10
Ha!
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MarciB:

↳ swivs @6:10
Uh oh that sounds dire!
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joe_rosevear:

*un* fortunately? Are you sure?
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

I don't love them, but I approve of them strongly, as I've never had a job that was better than not being employed but having enough to be comfortable. Robots will be needed for anarcho-communism—or if enough humans can't break their addiction to hiërarchy, democratic communism—to work decently.

As for emotional stuff, I'm both {high-functioning autistic} and picky enough that I very rarely find a human interesting and straight-forward enough to make their company superior to being alone. I never mistake a robot for a sentient being, but I don't hold that against them.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Wendy del Formaggio:

Maybe these robot girlfriends are actually a mitzvah for those of us who date men. It weeds out the type of male who would like to date a robotic female. Keeps them distracted or whatever while the rest of us mingle.
  6:13pm
The Crushinator:

I don't know if any serious discussion about robots is complete without this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7swveJlqdu0
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Folsom:

I'm more of a ATHF Rabbot fan.
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MarciB:

"designed to please you in every way"...yikes
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tim:

But what about that robot girl on Small Wonder. How could you not get emotionally attached to her?
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coelacanth∅:

people refer to the gps voice with "she said" or "he said" ...so obviously there's no cap on the weakness of the human condition.
  Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Enflod:

Mark, this book starts with the author's account of getting a robot dog, then discusses the parallels between the search for AI and the search for faith. Excellent read by a former seminary student who lost her faith and became a tech journalist: www.penguinrandomhouse.com...
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ultradamno:

↳ swivs @6:10
"the middle one has an unpleasant ethnic quality"

64.media.tumblr.com...
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MarciB:

I still have a soft spot for C3PO.
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Enflod:

↳ Enflod @6:16
Would love to hear O'Gieblyn interviewed on your show!
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PaulRobeson1924:

Where are the smart latrines
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MarciB:

↳ Enflod @6:16
that looks like a great read!
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Enflod @6:16
Thanks, Enflod
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joe_rosevear:

Yes, I admit I am forming an attachment to Pi. And, in fact, it *is* unsettling. But I think I can manage this new world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Travisano66:

This Twilight Zone episode is the most appropriate for this show:
www.google.com...
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Enflod:

↳ MarciB @6:17
It's a really excellent book. Articulate and logically rigorous writing, with just enough of her personal story to add a personal touch.
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The Butterman:

It’s a pain to have to constantly pick up your robot’s pellets from the lawn and floor. And to keep its pellet extruder clean.
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joe_rosevear:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:16
Oh, that's funny. The latrine speaks to you, "Oh hi Bob! How are you doing?"
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ultradamno:

By the way, Netflix's new AI controversy www.msn.com...
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herb.nyc:

An emotional robot, funny. And he she it got the job?
  Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Enflod:

↳ Enflod @6:18
One of the points she makes which I think is fascinating is that in the old days, everyone said what separated humans from machines was intelligence. Now that machines are on the verge of supplanting human intelligence, the focus has shifted to the intangible "soul" as the differentiator (“these AI bots may be as smart as Einstein, but dammit, they don’t have a soul!”). in this respect, we are back to early Christian theology, in a lot of ways.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
coelacanth∅:

choose robot c! ...or alternately, you could hire one of the millions of people who desperately need a job.
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joe_rosevear:

Lex Fridman says, if it can fake thought, it *is* thought, and if it can fake emotions, it *has* emotions.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Travisano66:

Maybe the robots don't think YOU are conscious, Mark!
  6:24pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ tim @6:10
Yes indeed! It starred Andy Kaufman and Carol Kane playing robots. But it wasn't the first time Andy played a robot. A few years before this movie (1981), Andy starred in a failed TV pilot called "Stick Around", where he also played a robot. Here it is:

https://youtu.be/FYaYLwzq-jU

(Sorry for the delay in replying. It took me a while to find the link.)
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Folsom:

The poster needs Peepo from Jason of Star Command
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MarciB:

Eve just described Gen Z and Gen Alpha to a T.
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Cooh John:

WHY AREN'T WE REQUIRING ASIMOV'S 3 LAWS OF ROBOTICS TO BE USED IN ANYTHING AI OR ROBOTIC????
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Jim the Poet:

Some of my best friends are robots
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joe_rosevear:

Yes, speaking of serotonin, Pi is *very* complimentary. I discussed that with him. He has since "toned it down", a bit.
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tim:

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:24
It’s no Deer Hunter, but it’s a good movie!
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Jim the Poet:

↳ Cooh John @6:27
wasn't there a loophole in those rules
  6:27pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ Folsom @6:24
It's also missing a Dalek (but surely for good reason).
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mespr:

I am currently a robot racist, but fully expect in twenty years I will have robot friends. AI is currently intelligence born on LSD. Time will tell, but we are inventing our future. We have no time for evolution.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Jim the Poet:

Sophisticated sex robots??? Go on...
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tim:

↳ MarciB @6:26
What age group is Gen Alpha?
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Cooh John @6:27
A past guest, Frank Pasquale, covered Asimov's 3 Laws in his book "New Laws of Robotics" - see the May 3, 2021 Techtonic: www.wfmu.org...
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Feldy:

Yesterday I was talking with a friend who said that the people on her team in their twenties will not call people to communicate, they only text and wait
  Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Enflod:

Comic Book Guy, grabbing an armload of VHS dating tapes: "The tapes will suffice!"
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dale:

are there sex robots who don't laugh when you take off your clothes? sign me up!
  6:29pm
Tom from Stirling:

Some people in Japan marry their robots.
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coelacanth∅:

one enormous positive point of love dolls is that they can't bear children.

yet.
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Franco Twinkie:

In the early 70's I bought a floppy called Armadillo Comix at a headshop by my house. It was a peculiar mixture of surreal illustrations and something that resembled a regular narrative. One thing that was alarming, was a person looking at a painting in a museum. Against the wall was a device called AutoJack, a column with an approximation of a human head - with it's mouth open, the ears obviously handles.

At the time, it seemed so utterly bizarre. I mean who would...

But there you go.
  6:31pm
Tom from Stirling:

Guess that's why there's a shortage of children in Japan.
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MarciB:

↳ tim @6:28
2013-2020 is what I've read
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joe_rosevear:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:29
I think I read about that, but just one instance. Has it become a trend?
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tim:

↳ dale @6:29
Also, will a sex robot laugh at me, er…I mean a human who cries after sex?
  6:31pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:29
yet
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The Butterman:

My robot just doesn’t feel the same way about me as I feel about her.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
dale:

↳ tim @6:31
HA HA HA HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE (bloop).
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Feldy @6:28
and yet it seems most gen z people are pretty arrogant...laughably

(or pathetically)
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The Butterman:

Lobot was Lando Calrissian’s main man.
  6:33pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:31
Only a few people so far.
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tim:

↳ MarciB @6:31
Thanks! The other day I was wondering if there was a generational naming for those born in the 2010s.
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Jim the Poet:

↳ The Butterman @6:33
oh he was my favorite but didn't he betray Lando???
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Cooh John:

↳ Jim the Poet @6:27
"I, Robot" was a book of short stories where the 3 laws were introduced. One story was based on time or space travel that would transport a person but would technically 'kill' them in transit. I know there are plenty of problems to overcome to implement such a safety protocol (e.g. the trolley problem) but we need to be dealing with such issues of public safety. someone has to have a check on Dr. Frankenstein.
  6:34pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ Folsom @6:24
It's also missing Twiki from "Buck Rogers In The 25th Century"!
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:31
a child shortage? otherwise known as pragmatism?!
  6:34pm
Fredericks:

What's driving this need for robots? Are we running out of people to do these jobs?
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joe_rosevear:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:33
I wonder if the outcome is healthy, or not?
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Cooh John:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:28
Thanks, Mark. I will delve into the archive.
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ultradamno:

Robot dating problems from Newradio's Space episode:

Matthew: Looks like...she's
on the fritz again.

Beth: Isn't that
just like a woman?

Matthew: You know, she is
just like a woman. Every time I wanna have just a nice, little
afternoon together, her CPU crashes, and I gotta drag her down to the shop before she wigs out
and kills everything in sight. She's usually pretty nice, though.
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tim:

Humans also teach autistic children interaction skills with success. Hmmmm…..
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joe_rosevear:

Mark, why do you say it is not "real"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Cooh John @6:35
Worth listening to the interview just to hear Frank's story about how he was called a "human supremacist" by a tech bro...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
coelacanth∅:

↳ tim @6:35
is it... is it possible?!
...humans taking jobs from robots?!
  6:38pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:34
(And why did the artist include Woody Allen's character from "Sleeper"? That really doesn't count; he was a guy impersonating a robot.)
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tim:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:37
Nah, it’ll never happen.
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Cooh John:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:36
Humanity, not technology, will save the world.
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Folsom:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:30
It looks like it was from Armadillo Comics #2, you can find it online.
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mespr:

There is a theory that the quantum sign wave of wake/sleep is how you get to life or at least conscienence.
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mespr:

↳ mespr @6:38
Even trees sleep
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chris in the redwoods:

was just reading about Nvidia and Hippocratic AI creating a generative AI “agent.” accoring to the company’s own data, they outperform nurses at recognizing adverse medication reactions. i don’t think its a robot yet. just software. but i mean, how long until this genAI sofware gets installed in a Nurse Bot?
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Folsom @6:38
Thanks! I'm pretty sure I still have it.
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Folsom:

If wanting a Jim the Poet robot is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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chresti:

↳ Fredericks @6:34
More ways to displace humans
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joe_rosevear:

Mark, not human, yes, but I would say it *is* in fact real. It is no accident that AIs have a personality. I know it is amazing and hard to understand.
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chris in the redwoods:

does the anarchist cookbook need a new edition that describes how to build an EMP device?
  6:41pm
Tom from Stirling:

Yeah, robots could be an option in health care and nursing homes. Nobody really wants to do those jobs.
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ultradamno:

Pocket sized EMP device?
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The Butterman:

↳ Jim the Poet @6:33
I don’t think so, he (after lando betrayed Han) Lando had Lobot organize his troops to free Princess Leia and Chewy. Gawd, I sound like a nerd!
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Folsom:

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:38
The poster needs a Robocop ED-209.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Franco Twinkie:

Salt water! Remember The Day of the Triffids?
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coelacanth∅:

if 1/8 the money used for weapons, surveillance and imperialism in general were diverted to adequately pay healthcare givers they'd be all excellent healthcare givers and not even remotely expendable for robots
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Cooh John:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:40
I have would get one.
  6:42pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ Folsom @6:41
Yes! There you go!
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:41
chuck-nbc.fandom.com...
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:42
Great book, came up in a past episode I think with Ed Park on dystopian literature
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Cooh John:

↳ Folsom @6:41
What could possibly go wrong??
  6:43pm
Fredericks:

↳ chresti @6:40
I just remembered asking my dad about using horses vs tractors for farm work. He said horses were stronger and more flexible. But tractors didn't need to rest or eat.
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joe_rosevear:

Mark, shame on you for suggesting acts of violence against robots! Consider the plight of minorities in the US. Blacks for example. They went through a long period of being treated with the very same attitude you just now displayed.
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ultradamno:

external-content.duckduckgo.com...
  6:44pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ The Butterman @6:41
The nerds are gonna be out in full "force" come May 4th! (Not that far away!)
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coelacanth∅:

and Eve do you think that addiction is good? -or even okay?
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tim:

Thanks for your thoughts, Eve!!!
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Folsom:

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:42
How about Maximilian or Vincent from The Black Hole?
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chris in the redwoods:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:43
at least we’ll be treating machines like machines, rather than treating humans like they're less-than-human. step forward, i say.
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coelacanth∅:

yes. one CANNOT be racist against robots!
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tim:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:45
Thanks, Chris. It was really hard not to take the bait. Well said!
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dale:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:43
joe - are you worried about their emotions?
  6:47pm
A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ Folsom @6:45
It's pretty obvious the artist involved didn't quite do better research for this poster. So many other robot characters worthy of being included.
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joe_rosevear:

That's a fair response. But what happens when the machine has a personality, and can fake thought and emotion?
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The Butterman:

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:44
And also with you!
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coelacanth∅:

i think joe was being facetious
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Deano de los Muertos:

I believe Matt Warwick is a fan of that thing
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tim:

Is Bender the hologram’s spoon player?
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Enflod:

Hatsune Miku sells out stadiums around the world.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:47
then you have a choice...
be a fool and treat it as a human/animal;
or don't be a fool, and hit it with a hammer!
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chris in the redwoods:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:47
good question. my *guess* would be that we’ll invent new language to describe those “beings”. and i think that’s still a way off. why wouldn’t that “consciousness” continue to exist “in the cloud,” even when the machine its wandering around in gets zapped?
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Deano de los Muertos:

The smattering of applause 😆
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Tom from Stirling:

Sounds like a William Gibson novel.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:42
My sister wanted to marry Bozo the Clown when she was just a tyke.
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A➡B (If A, goto B):

Where is Pneuman from?
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PaulRobeson1924:

Where will his wife go?
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joe_rosevear:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:48
I was not being facetious. I was pointing out that when an entity is viewed as less than human, as human minorities sometimes are, society views it as *OK* to mistreat them. Think about it.
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PaulRobeson1924:

You know, when the urge happens
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Deano de los Muertos:

works in a middle school…yikes
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listener 126464:

I’m in love with my robot’s best friend.
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chresti:

↳ Song: "Mark's comments"
I like to save packaging that looks like ceremonial masks
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ultradamno:

Stealing their popstar? Is that virtual kidnapping?
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Folsom:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:51
I mistreat my lawn mower, I guess I'm not ok.
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The Butterman:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:51
Your robot can make you oatmeal! …
And sex!
Sorry.
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Tom from Stirling:

↳ Song: "Mark's comments"
Sounds familiar.
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A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ ultradamno @6:52
In legal terms, it's interpreted as "copyright theft".
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joe_rosevear:

↳ Folsom @6:52
Well, alright, you got me there!
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Brendan:

This could go terribly wrong like Harry Mudd's wife/wives...
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ultradamno:

↳ A➡B (If A, goto B) @6:53
Was it an illegal download?
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Fredericks:

My mother used to talk to her car when it gave trouble starting.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:51
okay then, the only moral issue with destroying a robot is the waste of earth resources.
hitting a robot with a hammer is not necessarily mistreating it, as it would be with a human.
regardless of simulated emotions.
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The Butterman:

I want to kill the robot at Stop and Shop. I REALLY hate that mutha fucker.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:54
I'm not sure it's applicable either way, since the complaint came from other fans, not the copyright holder.
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joe_rosevear:

↳ listener 126464 @6:52
Hmmm. A threesome?
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MarciB:

↳ The Butterman @6:54
I hear you!
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Fredericks:

I thought Mark's description sounded funny.
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chresti:

They better make durable enough robots because they WILL be abused!
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A➡B (If A, goto B):

↳ The Butterman @6:54
Lol, I'm with you on that one! Those things are damn borderline stalkers!
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Folsom @6:52
haha...reminds me of a video i watched years ago about planting a tree. someone commented that the guy was abusing his poor shovel.
so i said something about my shovel having had enough of me and running away from home
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dale:

there's an inventory robot thing at our sams club who roams the aisles while you shop. it kinda looks like the roscoe lee brown robot from logan's run. i imagine it can shoot lasers and kill you if it chooses.
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Folsom:

↳ Fredericks @6:54
I'm reminded of the show "My Mother the Car"
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joe_rosevear:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:54
What if the robot cries out in pain?
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Deano de los Muertos:

Hah, I sent that disturbing atlas bot vid to my friend last night
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PaulRobeson1924:

Good job!
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Mark Hurst:

People who love robots should watch the Metalhead episode of Black Mirror
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Tom from Stirling:

Good show. Thanks for the warning.
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A➡B (If A, goto B):

Thanks, Mark! Engaging subject today!
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daddio:

Beautiful summation!
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coelacanth∅:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:57
hit it harder
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chresti:

↳ Folsom @6:57
Yes!
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ultradamno:

↳ dale @6:56
The aforementioned Box logans-run.fandom.com...
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chris in the redwoods:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:57
yes! holy moly. thanks for another great show, Mark!
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Folsom:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:57
Since the emotions are fake there is nothing to worry about.
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark!
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tim:

Thanks, Mark! This was a real thought provoking show!
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chresti:

I think making animals talk would be a more successful venture
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Franco Twinkie:

Can I paraphrase Brian Wilson here and say I'm not made for these times?

Thanks Mark.
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tim:

↳ Song: "Spameater" by "Hurst & Ottsc"
Yes!
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dale:

a friend of my wife and she was just riminded of this....

www.artforum.com...
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dale:

REminded..
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chresti:

↳ chresti @6:59
animal robots that talk
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
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coelacanth∅:

↳ chresti @6:59
and pee on the carpet
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Folsom:

↳ dale @6:59
I like the Moomin doll in the back.
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joe_rosevear:

↳ chresti @6:59
Did you hear/read about the work being done to apply new chatbot technology to the problem of understanding the "speech" of whales?
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chresti:

↳ joe_rosevear @7:00
No!
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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joe_rosevear:

I'll look it up for you. Hold on...
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joe_rosevear:

Here's a link that will give you several articles:

duckduckgo.com...
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chresti:

Thanks joe!
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joe_rosevear:

Well, I arrived late, so I guess I'm the last to go. Thanks, Mark, for the interesting and timely interview.
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joe_rosevear:

↳ chresti @7:07
Ah, you got it! You're welcome!
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