WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from July 4, 2024

Listener comments!
	♥ 11:58am Trouble: Frieze article about Jacqueline de Jong, who died this week: www.frieze.com...
	♥ 9:01am chresti: Hi Trouble and troubled!
	9:01am Daniel from PEI.: Tip o the cap…
	♥ 9:01am No Big Thing: Good morning Trouble and fellow listeners!
	♥ 9:02am TDK60: Bonjour, DJ Trouble.
	♥ 9:02am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good morning, Trouble and modernists!
	♥ 9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all!
	♥ 9:03am Mike in Montreal: Happy America Day to all our Troubled American friends, and everyone out there!
	♥ 9:04am Webhamster Henry: Hi Trouble and troubled listeners!
	♥ 9:04am Trouble: good thursday morning!
	♥ 9:04am Zip7: Good morning, Troubled modernists! Thanks for posting that obit, Trouble. I still try to practice the dérive when I can
	♥ 9:07am newton: there is a program partnership this weekend Lincoln Center and NYPL for a new anthem to US. My sister wrote one of the finalist anthems, that were set to music and being performed at Lincoln Center this weekend. Also the lyrics are being projected on the buildings. Couldn't be more proud! anthemtous.org
	♥ 9:08am Trouble: very cool @newton!
	♥ 9:08am pot8o: morning troublemakers!
	♥ 9:09am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "a study in vastness" by "ana roxanne" Roxane always welcome. A repeat spin on my devices.
	♥ 9:09am Will thee SG OCNY: good morning Trouble and all!!!
	9:10am Daniel from PEI.: Supercool, Newton. I checked out the link…. I wonder when I can hear them?
	♥ 9:10am No Big Thing: Trouble's link and these first few tracks are a strong reminder of why I think the WnB > Modern World 1-2 punch makes Thursday mornings one of my fave times each week.
	♥ 9:11am Yes: Lovely sounds
	♥ 9:11am Strandlund: Happy 4th Trouble and all you Modernaires!!
	♥ 9:11am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:04 Good day, Zip 7. Could you explain "the dérive"? I don't know French.
	♥ 9:11am newton: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @9:10 Saturday night 8pm free, but ticketed www.lincolncenter.org...
	9:13am Juli P: I wake up horrified. By everyone.
	9:13am Rick A: Good morning Trouble and all, I received my swag a few weeks back and really appreciate the new premium. The Slim Gaillard song all the way on down resonate. I really appreciate the Gil Scott-Heron, Joe Bataan, and Kaki King songs. Your mixes are always some of the best. This is number 11 now for me. Thank you for creating them.
	♥ 9:14am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "pastorale" by "pierre rousseau" This instrument is 💯% backwards!
	9:14am Juli P: The Apocalypse is as horrifying as described: IT will only get worse. No one cares about anything about their own fragile ego.
	9:14am Fredericks: ↳ Webhamster Henry @9:14 Agreed!
	9:15am Juli P: But their own fragile ego,
	9:15am Daniel from PEI.: @Newton. I’m in Canada, broke and don’t have a passport.
	9:15am Juli P: I cannot handle humans any longer.
	♥ 9:16am Trouble: merci @rick A; so glad to hear!
	♥ 9:17am newton: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @9:15 Some would say you are living the dream! When I find out more, like if they post a link to a recording of the concert on their website I will put it up
	♥ 9:17am Trouble: 'When you assert that the future is already decided, you undermine the motivation to participate in shaping that future' - Rebecca Solnit
	♥ 9:20am mlsgrrl: ↳ Juli P @9:15 Juli, hello
	♥ 9:21am Zip7: ↳ TDK60 @9:11 Hi TDK! "Dérive" basically means drifting, flaneuring – an unplanned flow of acts and encounters in the urban environment. The Situationists proposed a "new urbanism" of psychogeography. As one of them wrote, "All space is occupied by the enemy. We are living under a permanent curfew. Not just the cops—the geometry." To revolt against this and resist being herded here and there, people would drift on a journey with no goal – the “continuous derive”
	♥ 9:23am mlsgrrl: Good morning, Trouble. A day off means I get to tune in live!
	♥ 9:24am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and freedom units!
	♥ 9:25am newton: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 a beautiful way to approaching our experience and participation in creating our lives, way of understanding the environment that was put up around us and evading it for one of our own choosing even if the guiding principle of that choice is randomness
	9:25am hoeg: this show is a balm
	9:25am jan: ↳ Song: "suketo" by "adam oko" loving this sound!
	♥ 9:25am Trouble: also put together by jacqueline de jong: libcom.org...
	♥ 9:25am Zinn The Mood: Hey folks. Sitting on the roof with my kid, drinking smoothies and reading, listening to the show. Weird day always, for those who’ve read enough and see through the poison of nationalism. It’s also one of those days for which Trouble has spoken about, regarding the social pressures of feeling like one has to do something on such a day, with such weather. Where does it all derive? Probably marketing, and the depiction in commercials of people having fun always, and there being an underlying philosophy in America of the primacy of the individual, convenience and hedonism being the ultimate states of being, etc etc. This show is always a salve, but particularly today.
	♥ 9:26am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 Merci, Zip 7! I'd heard about some of those Situationist ideas, forgot some of those terms. They were troublemakers; and a bit on the weighty side with the terms, hee.
	♥ 9:26am Crownless Gander: Morning! Just got here and will be in and out of meetings, but I'm loving the ethereal tones. And I second the Solnit quote!
	♥ 9:28am Zip7: ↳ newton @9:25 Well stated!
	♥ 9:29am Irene Trudel: Good morning Trouble & friends! Grateful for this gentle flow of music, as I've been listening / waking up slowly.
	9:30am frank: We keep moving forward. That is all.
	9:30am Marcus Welby M.D.: @newton Thx for the link! Looks good!
	♥ 9:31am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 Zip 7, others. There is a US Situationist website, the Bureau of Public Secrets out of S.F. Run by one Ken Knabb who translated texts from France. Also stuff on Beat poets. It's sort of an archive, not updated often.
	♥ 9:33am Trouble: good morning, Irene!
	9:33am Daniel from PEI.: @Juli, people? Yuck. Isn’t that why we have the radio? :p @Newton, yes things are not too bad, all considered. @ Nationalism, Flags, Borders and Freedom vs The System, …yikes, not touching that one this morning!
	9:33am Toothgrinder Tom: Long live Freeform Radio!
	♥ 9:35am Zip7: ↳ TDK60 @9:31 Thanks -- will have to check this out. Also recommend the Digger archives: www.diggers.org...
	♥ 9:36am Steve Del Sol: Sounds like fun...for some ones.
	♥ 9:37am Crownless Gander: Hopefully not by voting Labour!
	9:40am Daniel from PEI.: @TDK60, I love this site already…haven’t even heard of the situationists in years…. Great user name too, pretty sure that was my first blank cassette …
	9:43am Daniel from PEI.: @zip7, another promising link, thank you. I wonder what other awesome things I’ve forgotten all about….
	♥ 9:44am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:35 Zip7: Merci for this! I sing a song about the 1600s English Diggers (out at open mics) and explain I first heard of the term via the 1960s Diggers.
	♥ 9:45am Crownless Gander: ↳ TDK60 @9:44 "A ragged band they called the Diggers..."?
	♥ 9:45am TDK60: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @9:40 Hello Daniel on the isle. It's a fine resource.
	9:47am Carmen: Good morning! I was so disoriented this morning I was like why is Trouble on the radio on Saturday!?!? I am so happy you were on!
	♥ 9:47am TDK60: ↳ Crownless Gander @9:45 Good morning, Crownless Gander. Yes! It's "The World Turned Upside Down" by Leon Rosselson. I first heard it from a Billy Bragg cover.
	♥ 9:48am Crownless Gander: youtu.be... Love that song! I first heard it from BB too and was shocked when I recently learned he hadn't written it.
	♥ 9:49am Zinn The Mood: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 Yes; really like that, brother! For some time have been more consciously abiding that sentiment as I move around the city. Was meandering on a bicycle going to meet the kids at Museum of Nat Hist last week and found myself purposefully riding on the sidewalks of Park Ave, occasionally spouting off, “tax the rich.” Instead of being conditioned to deference we need to build contempt. Occupy Wall St, while predominately encamped in an urban park, adhered to The Situationist’s philosophy in some ways I believe.
	♥ 9:52am john_zilla: happy to be listening live!!!
	♥ 9:53am oshiwoshi: ↳ Trouble @9:17 so you're an actor playing a part in play whose conclusion is foregone? Gotta give it gusto, brio, verve like Brando - how you play it is all you have
	♥ 9:54am TDK60: ↳ Crownless Gander @9:48 C.G. - When I sing it, I add the last two lines of verse 2 to the end of the song, to make it more hopeful.
	♥ 9:55am tom tom the pipers son: good morning trouble and listeners...
	♥ 9:55am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "empty house" by "air" Such an amazing soundtrack. I read the book but I don't think I could make it through the film, given the subject matter. These sounds, though—no skips on this record.
	♥ 9:58am Crownless Gander: ↳ TDK60 @9:54 Ah, that's a nice idea. :)
	♥ 9:58am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ TDK60 @9:44 "The World Turned Upside Down," by Christopher Hill, is a fine history of the Diggers, the Levellers, Ranters, and other 16th-17th century English radicals.
	♥ 10:01am oshiwoshi: ↳ Crownless Gander @9:45 Winstanley!
	♥ 10:03am TDK60: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @9:58 Good morning, Peter: Yes, I've heard the other song with the same name! Chumbawamba did a version.
	♥ 10:05am newton: Money Creates Taste
	♥ 10:06am Noir Lover: You had me at Kushner, Trouble
	♥ 10:06am newton: ↳ Noir Lover @10:06 indeed!
	♥ 10:06am Trouble: jcitytimes.com...
	10:07am N'Lo: Thanks for the lowdown on the Pompidou JC sitch!
	10:07am Daniel from PEI.: …and there it is. The first potential band name of the morning. Thanks, Newton. MCT at CBGBs anyone? What? They’re playing at MSG?!
	♥ 10:07am Webhamster Henry: I actually had a little show in the Jersey City Museum!
	♥ 10:08am newton: real estate developers ArtWash their projects all the time
	♥ 10:08am tom tom the pipers son: @ trouble: thanks for the jacqueline de jong image and situationist times link...don't know about her work ...
	10:09am Daniel from PEI.: “Art is useless and so am I. “ - me.
	♥ 10:09am B R M: @trouble yes, this defunding of the Pompidou also restored arts funding for many state arts non-profits through the hotel tax, which was under threat in the budget. A huge win for the arts state wide. Last, the Pompidou had almost nothing to do with this museum, save the licensing of their name which would cost millions per year. Total boondoggle and hope it is over now.
	♥ 10:09am newton: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @10:07 have to give the credit to Barbara Kruger, I think, maybe it was Jenny Holzer
	♥ 10:11am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ TDK60 @10:03 Morning TDK60! Hanging around for a bit longer, but it's time for me to practice...
	10:12am Crei6hton: Morning WFMU
	♥ 10:12am Dan S: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @9:58 Have you ever heard this version by Leon Rosselson? www.youtube.com...
	♥ 10:14am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "the furthest things ( nicole lizee)" by "kronos q... Omnichord Alert!
	♥ 10:15am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:08 The image of the woman in the lower left quadrant of that de Jong image reminds me of my sister in law on a bad day.
	♥ 10:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:15 hi.... i can't quite tell what she's doing...
	♥ 10:17am newton: ↳ JReganK @10:15 that's better than saying your sister in law on a good day!
	♥ 10:19am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:17 I think she's balancing a tire
	10:19am N'Lo: Oh thanks for the intro to Lafawnda! This is giving me good chills, Trouble!
	♥ 10:19am JReganK: ↳ newton @10:17 Ha! Diplomacy above all!
	♥ 10:20am newton: ↳ JReganK @10:19 I was going to say loosening the bolts on the ire so the thing crashes on the highway
	♥ 10:20am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:19 reminds me..had a dream of ex and mother in law
	♥ 10:20am chresti: ↳ Song: "bella kali" by "las grecas" 🔥
	♥ 10:21am JReganK: ↳ newton @10:20 That's a fair prediction.
	♥ 10:22am newton: she is a saboteur!
	♥ 10:22am tom tom the pipers son: @ trouble: de jong image reminds of pauline boty's work a bit
	♥ 10:22am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:20 A dream in what looks like pastels. No less!
	10:24am still b/p: "loosening the bolts on the ire" = good song lyric.
	♥ 10:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:22 no, just you mentioning yr sis in law... but as far as color mother in law was dressed in bright orange hooded cloak and was quite friendly
	♥ 10:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ still b/p @10:24 a la "putting out the fire ...with gasoline"
	♥ 10:27am newton: ↳ still b/p @10:24 it was a typo, but then I thought , no, don't correct that, it's better
	♥ 10:27am TDK60: ↳ Song: "viva tu" by "manu chao" Manu!
	♥ 10:29am tom tom the pipers son: actually putting out ire , with gasoline
	♥ 10:29am newton: ↳ newton @10:27 it's that randomness principle at work again, letting language wander, misspellings leading to places worth visiting, not on the map
	♥ 10:32am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:26 Funny, how far the acorn falls from the tree, sometimes.
	♥ 10:32am newton: Billy Bragg is so good at being Billy Bragg.
	♥ 10:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:32 now it sounds like you're talking about my ex spouse...ha!
	♥ 10:35am Ken From Hyde Park: Walking into town for parade festivities. Still listening. 🎺
	10:37am Toothgrinder Tom: I respectfully disagree about the Pompidou Center, think it would have been a great boon for Jersey City, have a hard time understanding why anyone would object to it but oh well,
	♥ 10:37am Mike in Montreal: This set is stretching my brain :)
	♥ 10:38am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "badaouiah" by "hany mehanna" nice...
	♥ 10:39am chresti: ↳ JReganK @10:15 And the figure at the top is the Michlin woman?
	♥ 10:40am newton: ↳ chresti @10:39 She's the Space Technician who is owned by SpaceX
	♥ 10:41am newton: Their stripes relate them
	♥ 10:41am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:35 This is not such a good plan after all. It's started sprinkling. 😦
	♥ 10:41am chresti: ↳ newton @10:40 eek!
	♥ 10:41am newton: ↳ newton @10:41 I mean the saboteur and the space tech,
	♥ 10:42am disco_nap_: Good morning, Troublemakers 💙
	♥ 10:43am chresti: ↳ newton @10:41 Oh, oof I didn't see the reference in the caption
	♥ 10:43am JReganK: ↳ chresti @10:39 Ha! Obviously!
	♥ 10:44am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:34 ;)
	♥ 10:44am newton: Debord wrote of the private ownership of history, not only a jab at the big cultural institutions, but here she is broadening that to the privatization of space
	♥ 10:48am JReganK: ↳ Song: "space, time and beyond" by "akis" This is like a Bladerunner soundtrack candidate.
	♥ 10:50am disco_nap_: Reading through the earlier comments, I am inspired to echo others’ sentiments. I am soooo grateful that July 4th happens to fall on a Thursday this year because I know Trouble will play and say exactly what I need to hear.
	♥ 10:50am mndave: Welcome back DJ Trouble! Thanks for setting the mood appropriately today.
	♥ 10:51am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): great set. so shimmery
	♥ 10:52am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @10:44 the piece echoes rosenquist' f-111
	♥ 10:52am newton: I didn't know this but, the black and white horizontal stripe french shirt was part of a 19C stereotype of Parisians, "a bit anarchist and a bit rogue who was called an apache"
	♥ 10:55am newton: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:52 I love the spaghetti at the end of F-111 spaghetti like brains
	♥ 10:57am Dances with Moomins: Hi to the Moderns and Trouble. A cool blustery day in Finland. No fireworks or picnics....but wonderful sounds to keep us together, thanx to Trouble. Long time since I heard Eddie Kendricks!
	♥ 10:57am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @10:52 yes i noticed that...apache also a notorious dance. i associate the shirt with french resistance which doesn't really make sense... iirc jean seaberg wears a striped shirt in breathless
	♥ 10:59am Trouble: hey@ stu!
	♥ 11:00am newton: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:57 I guess the stereotype goes back far, which is why we see it recur throughout the 20th C as a commonplace
	♥ 11:00am chresti: ↳ Dances with Moomins @10:57 Cool and blustery sounds ideal!
	♥ 11:01am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @10:55 ha! yeah...
	♥ 11:01am newton: I like the spaghetti partly because canned sapghettin in sauce (chef boyardee) was another technological innovation of the same period as the painting and the F111 also a big can
	11:02am still b/p: Interesting history of Apache dance. socialdance.stanford.edu... And (for later!) a period film of the dance performed. Get a load of the audience! www.youtube.com...
	♥ 11:02am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "girl, you need a change of mind" by "eddie kendri... @ trouble : surprised you like this title...
	♥ 11:03am newton: ↳ still b/p @11:02 thanks still b/p looking forward to checking these later!
	♥ 11:03am oshiwoshi: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:02 #patriarchy?
	♥ 11:05am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ oshiwoshi @11:03 well just a man always thinking he knows better...more like mansplaining
	♥ 11:05am Dances with Moomins: Hi Trouble! Back in the 'hood with the grown-up Moomins dancin around. Cool is cool, if we could only exchange weather I'd take a nice warm 4th! Saw Rhiannon Giddens on Tuesday in Helsinki, great show!
	♥ 11:05am chresti: ↳ newton @11:01 We had chef boyardee ravioli- my mom would divide the raviolis 3 ways for each of us kids.
	♥ 11:06am steveo: Hello! Yes! We are truly on the brink
	11:06am DeepCreep: YES TROUBLE! The Right is Wronger than ever - it’s an obvious mess.
	♥ 11:06am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @11:01 yeah that's plainly "there" in the painting
	♥ 11:06am Crownless Gander: Literally everything you can name has gotten worse under Biden than it ever was under Trump. You just can't make this "lesser evil" argument a second time.
	11:07am Matty cannabis: Preach it Ms. Trouble!! VOTE BLUE! 💙
	♥ 11:07am love2laf: ↳ chresti @11:05 It blew my mind when I heard a radio ad for Chef Boyardee as to the name pronunciation. Enjoying the show, just lurking quietly and keeping cool.
	♥ 11:08am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:06 i know, biden made the climate worse..
	♥ 11:08am Crownless Gander: And he is doing the worst thing any head of state can possibly do: funding and arming a genocide. Voting is not going to fix much, and we all know it now.
	♥ 11:08am chresti: ↳ love2laf @11:07 There you are! Hi!
	♥ 11:08am newton: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:08 but not voting will break more
	11:09am garlic Rob: What a bonus to spend July 4th with one of my favorite DJ’s. Happy 4th from Saratoga Springs Ny On Oct 1777 Burgoyne was defeated in the Battle of Saratoga as a result we have a Democracy (barely) Let’s keep it.
	♥ 11:09am JReganK: Never vote for the lesser of two evils
	♥ 11:09am Crownless Gander: For sure, vote. But you might as well vote for Jill Stein or any communist candidate your state has managed to put up.
	♥ 11:10am TDK60: I'll definitely be voting /against/ the self-described "Republicans" by voting for the so-called "Democrats." I hope the so-called Demz get the current prez offstage, like yesterday.
	11:10am Patty D: Politics on wfmu…what’s next commercials?
	11:11am PATTY: Thank you Trouble!! Voting BLUE the whole way!
	♥ 11:11am JReganK: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:08 Preaching to the choir
	11:12am Marks: I disapprove.
	♥ 11:12am JReganK: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:09 Agreed
	♥ 11:13am Webhamster Henry: Whenever I go to the FDR Library in Hyde Park, I apologize to him and Eleanor by their gravesides for the sorry state off US politics.
	♥ 11:14am JReganK: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:13 Nice country up there
	♥ 11:14am steveo: ↳ Patty D @11:10 It seems like the DJs here have the freedom to discuss anything they like (except possibly promoting their own music)
	11:14am Marks: and as a side not, this and similar acts by other WFMU DJs are responsible for me stopping the financial support of the station. Play music, talk about music. I don't want to listen to any political BS.
	♥ 11:15am pot8o: i personally HIGHLY dislike biden for his horrific handling of the genocide in gaza, but i know trump will just easily give netanyahu a blank check there's even republicans calling for nuking the gaza strip right now (newrepublic.com...)
	♥ 11:15am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:13 can they hear you while they're spinning in their graves?...;)
	♥ 11:16am Trouble: i am 100% opposed to how the US is handling the genocide in gaza. but a republican president would be the same if not worse.
	♥ 11:17am JReganK: ↳ pot8o @11:15 D.C. needs to be sanitized and AIPAC needs to be recognized as an agent of a foreign power.
	♥ 11:18am TDK60: ↳ pot8o @11:15 Morning pot80. It's truly incredible. I agree with Noam Chomsky's view that the Republican Party (of today) is the most dangerous organization in human history.
	♥ 11:18am newton: ↳ Marks @11:14 I'll make up for your withdrawl of financial support. I do want the DJs to have freedon to express their thoughts and ideas about everything not just the tunes they spin.
	♥ 11:19am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:41 Sun peeking through. Parade is back in business!
	♥ 11:19am Zip7: Someone wrote a good comment that was forwarded to me: "[V]oting is, in the words of Rebecca Solnit, a chess move and not a valentine. My vote is not a love letter to any candidate, and it never has been. It is, rather, a tactical decision about the preferred landscape on which I’ll carry out my political work . . . It’s also a recognition that, while the difference between the two major capitalist political parties is only an inch, a lot of vulnerable people exist within that inch. I also like Barbara Ransby’s analogy: voting is like brushing your teeth—it takes only a few minutes, but if you don’t do it, bad things could happen."
	♥ 11:19am JReganK: ↳ Trouble @11:16 I won't vote for any candidate that supports present Israeli policy.
	♥ 11:19am Trouble: @ marks: so you are cool just listening to volunteers giving of their free time to research and play music? you think b/c you don't agree with our politics that listening for free is the best payback? are you also against not paying for school budgets if you don't have a kid in the school system?
	♥ 11:20am steveo: ↳ Marks @11:14 I just donated $10 to help offset your not donating
	♥ 11:20am oshiwoshi: ↳ steveo @11:20 love it - going to follow your example
	♥ 11:21am Mike in Montreal: ↳ Trouble @11:19 yess!
	♥ 11:21am newton: wfmu is more than a jukebox
	11:21am Marks: seems I have some positive impart, good!
	♥ 11:21am JReganK: ↳ steveo @11:20 I'll make a donation if he goes away.
	♥ 11:22am Dances with Moomins: wfmu is more than a jukebox
	♥ 11:22am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @11:19 Zip7: That's it exactly. For me it's a tactical decision, not an endorsement of everything to do with the self-described "Democrats."
	♥ 11:22am Trouble: thanks @ steveo! oshiwoshi!
	♥ 11:23am Crownless Gander: I like Marx's analysis that elections in a liberal bourgeois democracy are a way of polling how much support there is for a workers' party, as well as a platform to educate the masses about more radical ideas. Other than that, they're not of much political use.
	♥ 11:24am oshiwoshi: i don't get how you can listen to conscious sounds and then whine when the DJ expresses opinions that resonate with the music
	11:24am BW: Biden should pass the torch but what is important: VOTE DEMOCRAT if you care about the world my children and great grandchildren inherit.
	11:24am Michael Kurtzberg: Not interested in your politics..Will never listen to this show again
	♥ 11:25am oshiwoshi: hands up if you're a bot!
	♥ 11:26am newton: ↳ oshiwoshi @11:24 the music too, is consciously chosen, with a conscience, she's not playing Up With People
	♥ 11:28am tom tom the pipers son: also politics is shared, in a civic sense, not possessed or owned, as in "your" politics
	♥ 11:29am pot8o: ↳ JReganK @11:17 absolutely, this madness must end and hopefully soon
	11:29am Marks: Suit yourself, I'm all for freedom of speech! Just keep in mind, that by giving your one sided and maybe ignorant political opinions on the air, you potentially antagonize some of your listeners. If you want WFMU to cater for just one part of the political spectrum, sure, keep going. I just don't think this is smart.
	♥ 11:29am Clincher16": ↳ Zip7 @11:19 That's a keeper!
	♥ 11:30am disco_nap_: Anyone who doesn't want to tune into a radio show run by an actual human with opinions can just listen to one of those algorithmically determined music streaming platforms.
	♥ 11:30am Trouble: i like that@ tom tom. sadly we are dividing ourselves by mine and yours, just like we are dividing up the imaginary loot .when really nothing is truly ours.
	♥ 11:31am newton: No one owns the WFMU Space Technician
	11:32am Michael Kurtzberg: In response to your shared politics..This is not sharing, this is having one person’s opinion shoved down my throat
	♥ 11:32am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): republicans v democrats is so boring both support the 1% or whatever you want to call them we all deserve to have our basics needs met and neither party is doing it. water, shelter, healthy food, health care, dignity. fighting each other is a waste of what energy we have left :( the empire is falling & we gotta rebuild !!! who knows what that will look like but hopefully not whatever is going on right now. not this. we best be knowing our neighbors & getting our hands in community garden beds
	♥ 11:32am Crownless Gander: I don't always agree with Trouble, e.g. in this case, but I 100% support her voicing her opinions and thoughts about the world we find ourselves in. Anyone who's a regular listener to this show knows that's what we're gonna get and looks forward to it.
	♥ 11:34am newton: ↳ Michael Kurtzberg @11:32 Music is political. There are lots of choices for you, other stations or listen to the archives.
	♥ 11:34am love2laf: @Trouble on the plus side sounds like a lot of first time listeners you're getting today.
	♥ 11:34am JReganK: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:32 Agreed. This cancel culture attitude has to be killed with fire.
	♥ 11:35am Clincher16": ↳ Michael Kurtzberg @11:32 I thought you were leaving.
	♥ 11:35am disco_nap_: WFMU has a long history of hosts talking about politics. Remember JM in the AM? It sounds like this is just not the radio station for you if you can't handle it.
	♥ 11:35am Trouble: i'm going to repeat myself here: 'When you assert that the future is already decided, you undermine the motivation to participate in shaping that future' - Rebecca Solnit
	♥ 11:36am disco_nap_: ↳ love2laf @11:34 Right?! Who are these people and what rock did they crawl out from under lol
	♥ 11:36am newton: ↳ Marks @11:29 your complaint isn't that she is discussing politics, its that you disagree with her politics. You seem happy to be voicing the contrariness of your opinion.
	♥ 11:37am TDK60: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @11:32 Morning bixa. Yes, of course they support the 1%. Yet there are some differences by degree. These small differences might make a big difference in some people's lives --as someone (I forget) said above.
	11:37am Matty cannabis: I see some folks have not read about Project 2025 yet.
	♥ 11:37am pot8o: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:35 i'm certain they're fine with radio djs with opinions, just as long as those opinions 100% match their own
	♥ 11:37am newton: ↳ Matty cannabis @11:37 Projectile Vomiting 2025
	♥ 11:37am Zinn The Mood: WEB DuBois (will furnish link in next post), perhaps the greatest intellectual in American history: “In 1956, I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no “two evils” exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say. There is no third party. On the Presidential ballot in a few states (seventeen in 1952), a “Socialist” Party will appear. Few will hear its appeal because it will have almost no opportunity to take part in the campaign and explain its platform. If a voter organizes or advocates a real third-party movement, he may be accused of seeking to overthrow this government by “force and violence.” Anything he advocates by way of significant reform will be called “Communist” and will of necessity be Communist in the sense that it must advocate such things as government ownership of the means of production; government in business; the limitation of private profit; social medicine, government housing and federal aid to education; the total abolition of race bias; and the welfare state. These things are on every Communist program; these things are the aim of socialism. Any American who advocates them today, no matter how sincerely, stands in danger of losing his job, surrendering his social status and perhaps landing in jail. The witnesses against him may be liars or insane or criminals. These witnesses need give no proof for their charges and may not even be known or appear in person. They may be in the pay of the United States Government. A.D.A.’s and “Liberals” are not third parties; they seek to act as tails to kites. But since the kites are self-propelled and radar-controlled, tails are quite superfluous and rather silly. The present Administration is carrying on the greatest preparation for war in the history of mankind. Stevenson promises to maintain or increase this effort. The weight of our taxation is unbearable and rests mainly and deliberately on the poor. This Administration is dominated and directed by wealth and for the accumulation of wealth. It runs smoothly like a well-organized industry and should do so because industry runs it for the benefit of industry. Corporate wealth profits as never before in history. We turn over the national resources to private profit and have few funds left for education, health or housing…” The more things change, the more they stay the same. We’ve been through this before, folks. Will we ever learn?
	11:38am Marks: ↳ newton @11:36 no, I said, it's better not to talk politics
	♥ 11:38am Trouble: the personal is political
	♥ 11:38am pot8o: ↳ Matty cannabis @11:37 i at the very least have, that's why despite all of my opposition to him, i'm still holding my nose and voting for him in november he's the lesser of 2 evils
	♥ 11:38am newton: ↳ Marks @11:38 you are welcome to stop
	11:39am Marks: ↳ newton @11:38 I don't think I started?
	♥ 11:40am TDK60: ↳ pot8o @11:38 pot80: I'm really thinking of putting a clothespin on my nose when I go vote in November!
	♥ 11:41am disco_nap_: ↳ TDK60 @11:40 Ugh same!
	11:41am Рудина: after all, the name of the show is "This Is The Modern World with Trouble" and we all have trouble with the modern world, because the modern world is troubling... I loved the previous show about labor movement songs, and I enjoy her political opinions on this radio show :)
	♥ 11:41am newton: ↳ TDK60 @11:40 hmm, time to invest in clothespins!
	♥ 11:42am pot8o: and even if you don't plan on voting for the presidential election PLEASE vote down ballot! they're trying to implement this horrible ideology in every level of government, from the oval office to your local school board
	11:42am peter in SEA: Happy 4th from the Left Coast, y’all! Power to the People!
	11:44am Рудина: (I would vote Green Party if I were American, but I'm not, so who cares about my opinion...?)
	♥ 11:44am disco_nap_: ↳ pot8o @11:42 It's all about voting down ballot imo. That's where our voices actually matter and our votes make way more of a difference.
	♥ 11:44am Zinn The Mood: The courage, clarity and prescience with which Dubois wrote, in a very frighteningly fascist era way more intense than now, is positively goosebump-inducing. libcom.org...
	♥ 11:44am pot8o: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:44 exactly! there were even a couple local elections in my area that were determined by just 1 vote!
	♥ 11:46am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Zinn The Mood @11:37 hi zinn thanks for sharing, on the nose as always
	♥ 11:46am TDK60: ↳ Рудина @11:44 Hello Рудина. Your opinion still is welcome. I'd rather vote Green too but not this time. I'd rather have Red Eugene Debs but he's unavailable...
	♥ 11:46am love2laf: Thank you Trouble, for the music, for your passionate advocacy, especially for women, and for volunteering your time every week to be here for us. Thanks everyone, time to get a nice cool shower in to start the afternoon off right.
	♥ 11:48am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ TDK60 @11:37 hey! yes - stakes are high. regardless of who wins communities need to self organize now more than ever. no single person is going to make things better, it'll take all of us . hard though when we're all worknig too dang much!!
	♥ 11:48am JReganK: ↳ Zinn The Mood @11:37 Amen!
	11:49am peter in SEA: What @love2laf said! Merci, Trouble!
	11:49am StringOFperils: Thanks, Trouble. Always enjoyable.
	♥ 11:49am disco_nap_: ↳ Рудина @11:44 Happy to hear your opinion as we live in a global society. I used to be a registered Green Party member. But then an activist friend convinced me that that is why progressive candidates don't get through in the "lesser of two evils" party. That, combined with never seeing the people I voted for actually get elected, convinced me to begrudgingly register with the "lesser of two evils."
	♥ 11:50am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): love your show trouble big love and big thanks for hosting
	♥ 11:51am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "star of bethlehem" by "neil young" One of the best Neil songs, and that's saying a lot!
	♥ 11:52am disco_nap_: Thank you so much, Trouble! I don't always agree with your opinions but I always value the research that you do, the care you take in presenting your ideas, and the debates that you spark in the comment board. And the wonderful tunes of course!
	♥ 11:52am JReganK: ↳ Song: "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton" Nice follow up to Neil
	♥ 11:52am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Song: "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton" <3
	♥ 11:53am newton: ↳ Song: "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton" w0w
	♥ 11:53am pot8o: as someone who's lgbtq+ and lives in a deep red state, i'm personally terrified about a trump victory & i hope that everyone in america does their best to stop him before he plunges this country into an authoritarian nightmare
	♥ 11:53am Zinn The Mood: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @11:46 No sweat, comrade. All Power to The People.
	11:54am traven: Perhaps the most important thing is that it's possible for us to disagree without being disagreeable.
	♥ 11:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Trouble. Some say democracy dies in darkness. Seems to be dying in broad daylight as well.
	♥ 11:55am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "In My Arms, Many Flowers" by "daniel schmidt" I have this one, of course. I was playing in a gamelan yesterday.
	♥ 11:56am Trouble: thanks for sitting in , see you next week!
	♥ 11:56am TDK60: Fine show today, DJ T. Merci! Peace.
	11:56am Ochre Ogre: ↳ peter in SEA @11:42 And to you! "People Have the Power" Patti Smith
	♥ 11:56am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	♥ 11:56am listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Trouble, and glad for the weekly updates on local and national politics! The more eyes on these characters that get elected or appointed to offices and posts, the less likely they'll be to sneak damaging, regressive shit through after tacking it to budgets or by passing it at poorly/unattended town meetings.
	♥ 11:56am tom tom the pipers son: thanks trouble, go roast some weinies...jus yankin' yer chain...love the show
	♥ 11:57am newton: Thanks Trouble!
	♥ 11:57am oshiwoshi: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:55 have you read a house in bali colin mcphee?
	11:57am Ochre Ogre: Thanks Trouble!
	♥ 11:58am Zip7: Thanks for another great show, Trouble! The value of your work is reflected in the fact that so many show up week after week for appointment listening and chatboard participation. You provide an invaluable locus for community
	♥ 11:58am Webhamster Henry: ↳ oshiwoshi @11:57 Nope! but I've been playing in gamelans of one sort or another for about 8 years I think.
	♥ 11:58am newton: now I can check those apache links from still b/p
	♥ 11:58am oshiwoshi: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:58 that must b the best thing
	♥ 12:00pm Crownless Gander: Oh wow, we're at the end? Thanks, that was fantastic!
	♥ 12:01pm chresti: Thanks Trouble!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from July 4, 2024

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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Thu. Jul 11th, 9am - Noon: Arlene Shechet visits This is the Modern World (More info...)
oin Trouble as she welcomes amazing artist Arlene Shechet to This is the Modern World, in honor of her 'Girl Group' show now on display at Storm King Art Center. Since the mid 1990's Shechet has worked in a range of materials, often contrasting media such as wood, metal, paper and ceramics. Her imaginative show at the Frick Museum in 2017 was a dialogue with their Meissen porcelain collection and included porcelain pieces she made during a series of residencies at the Meissen manufactory in 2012 and 2013. A version of that interactive play between historical design and contemporary ideas is presently showing at the Harvard Museum.
In 'Girl Group' Shechet displays six new large-scale commissions that harness the expressive power of geometry, line, color, and form in works displayed across Storm King’s hills, fields, and galleries. The title 'Girl Group' calls attention to the group of works performing together and also to female musicians breaking barriers, overcoming obstacles, and fighting for their rightful seat at the table.

July 4, 2024: 'When you assert that the future is already decided, you undermine the motivation to participate in shaping that future' - Rebecca Solnit

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Jacqueline de Jong, Private Property of a Space Technician, 1966

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
ana roxanne	a study in vastness "a study in vastness" by "ana roxanne"	Because of a Flower					0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
robert haigh	air madeleine "air madeleine" by "robert haigh"	black sarabande					0:07:05 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
pierre rousseau	pastorale "pastorale" by "pierre rousseau"	musique sans paroles					0:08:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
cinerama	london "london" by "cinerama"	Please Please Please: A Tribute to the Smiths	American Laundromat Records			*	0:14:02 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
joy wellboy	buy me flowers "buy me flowers" by "joy wellboy"	yorokobi's mantra					0:18:03 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
adam oko	suketo "suketo" by "adam oko"	diet of germs					0:22:39 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
african head charge	i want water "i want water" by "african head charge"	great vintage volume 2					0:27:11 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

carla dal forno	fast moving cars "fast moving cars" by "carla dal forno"			7"			0:36:51 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
caetano veloso	De Palavra Em Palavra	Araca Azul					0:40:27 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
the advisory circle	the architecture	full circle					0:41:19 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Brigitte Fontaine & Areski Belkacem	Le Repas des Dromadaires	vous et nous					0:45:58 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
maria chiara argiro	closer "closer" by "maria chiara argiro"	closer				*	0:48:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
air	empty house "empty house" by "air"	OST the virgin suicides					0:51:44 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
the chanticleer orchestra	Sea Change		Wollesonic records				0:54:24 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
alice russell	i see you( radio edit)	i am				*	0:57:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Kiran Ahluwalia	rabh da roop "rabh da roop" by "Kiran Ahluwalia"	Kiran Ahluwalia					1:07:52 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
kronos quartet and friends meet sun ra	the furthest things ( nicole lizee)	Outer Spaceways Incorporated	redhot.org			*	1:12:14 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Lafawndah	waterwork "waterwork" by "Lafawndah"	ancestor boy					1:15:08 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
las grecas	bella kali "bella kali" by "las grecas"	Todas Sus Grabaciones					1:19:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
adi oasis	get it got it "get it got it" by "adi oasis"	lotus glow					1:21:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
manu chao	viva tu "viva tu" by "manu chao"	viva tu		Single		*	1:25:30 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
cartola	pranto de poeta "pranto de poeta" by "cartola"	verde que te quero rosa					1:28:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Liminanas	Crystal Anis "Crystal Anis" by "The Liminanas"	Crystal Anis					1:32:13 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
hany mehanna	badaouiah "badaouiah" by "hany mehanna"	the miracles of the seven dances					1:35:06 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
cerrone	la secte de marrakech suite	Brigade Mondaine					1:39:30 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
akis	space, time and beyond "space, time and beyond" by "akis"	Into The Light: A Journey Into Greek Electronic Music, Classics & Rarities (1978 - 91) v/a					1:44:18 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
laurence vanay	glaciers interdits ( fender + synthe)	Galaxies					1:50:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Lo Borges	calibre "calibre" by "Lo Borges"	lo borges					1:52:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
eddie kendricks	girl, you need a change of mind	people...hold on					1:54:12 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

	"girls it easy"				girls it easy		2:04:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Joe Henderson	canyon lady "canyon lady" by "Joe Henderson"	canyon lady					2:10:05 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
idris ackamoor & the pyramids	act II : a glimpse of eternity	shaman!					2:20:13 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
karin krog	new spring "new spring" by "karin krog"	raindrops, raindrops					2:26:10 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Haruomi Hosono	hepatitis "hepatitis" by "Haruomi Hosono"	cochin moon					2:32:48 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Adrian Younge & Ali Shaheed Muhammad	Não Saia Da Praça ( feat marcus valle)	jazz is dead 001					2:37:19 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Dezron Douglas & Brandee Younger	equinox	force majeure					2:40:23 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
the fates	bridget of ireland "bridget of ireland" by "the fates"	furia					2:45:02 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
neil young	star of bethlehem "star of bethlehem" by "neil young"	decade					2:48:24 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
karen dalton	little bit of rain "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton"	It's So Hard to Tell Who's Going To Love You the Best					2:50:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
daniel schmidt	In My Arms, Many Flowers	In My Arms, Many Flowers					2:54:01 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	♥ 11:58am Trouble: Frieze article about Jacqueline de Jong, who died this week: www.frieze.com...
	♥ 9:01am chresti: Hi Trouble and troubled!
	9:01am Daniel from PEI.: Tip o the cap…
	♥ 9:01am No Big Thing: Good morning Trouble and fellow listeners!
	♥ 9:02am TDK60: Bonjour, DJ Trouble.
	♥ 9:02am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good morning, Trouble and modernists!
	♥ 9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all!
	♥ 9:03am Mike in Montreal: Happy America Day to all our Troubled American friends, and everyone out there!
	♥ 9:04am Webhamster Henry: Hi Trouble and troubled listeners!
	♥ 9:04am Trouble: good thursday morning!
	♥ 9:04am Zip7: Good morning, Troubled modernists! Thanks for posting that obit, Trouble. I still try to practice the dérive when I can
	♥ 9:07am newton: there is a program partnership this weekend Lincoln Center and NYPL for a new anthem to US. My sister wrote one of the finalist anthems, that were set to music and being performed at Lincoln Center this weekend. Also the lyrics are being projected on the buildings. Couldn't be more proud! anthemtous.org
	♥ 9:08am Trouble: very cool @newton!
	♥ 9:08am pot8o: morning troublemakers!
	♥ 9:09am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "a study in vastness" by "ana roxanne" Roxane always welcome. A repeat spin on my devices.
	♥ 9:09am Will thee SG OCNY: good morning Trouble and all!!!
	9:10am Daniel from PEI.: Supercool, Newton. I checked out the link…. I wonder when I can hear them?
	♥ 9:10am No Big Thing: Trouble's link and these first few tracks are a strong reminder of why I think the WnB > Modern World 1-2 punch makes Thursday mornings one of my fave times each week.
	♥ 9:11am Yes: Lovely sounds
	♥ 9:11am Strandlund: Happy 4th Trouble and all you Modernaires!!
	♥ 9:11am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:04 Good day, Zip 7. Could you explain "the dérive"? I don't know French.
	♥ 9:11am newton: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @9:10 Saturday night 8pm free, but ticketed www.lincolncenter.org...
	9:13am Juli P: I wake up horrified. By everyone.
	9:13am Rick A: Good morning Trouble and all, I received my swag a few weeks back and really appreciate the new premium. The Slim Gaillard song all the way on down resonate. I really appreciate the Gil Scott-Heron, Joe Bataan, and Kaki King songs. Your mixes are always some of the best. This is number 11 now for me. Thank you for creating them.
	♥ 9:14am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "pastorale" by "pierre rousseau" This instrument is 💯% backwards!
	9:14am Juli P: The Apocalypse is as horrifying as described: IT will only get worse. No one cares about anything about their own fragile ego.
	9:14am Fredericks: ↳ Webhamster Henry @9:14 Agreed!
	9:15am Juli P: But their own fragile ego,
	9:15am Daniel from PEI.: @Newton. I’m in Canada, broke and don’t have a passport.
	9:15am Juli P: I cannot handle humans any longer.
	♥ 9:16am Trouble: merci @rick A; so glad to hear!
	♥ 9:17am newton: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @9:15 Some would say you are living the dream! When I find out more, like if they post a link to a recording of the concert on their website I will put it up
	♥ 9:17am Trouble: 'When you assert that the future is already decided, you undermine the motivation to participate in shaping that future' - Rebecca Solnit
	♥ 9:20am mlsgrrl: ↳ Juli P @9:15 Juli, hello
	♥ 9:21am Zip7: ↳ TDK60 @9:11 Hi TDK! "Dérive" basically means drifting, flaneuring – an unplanned flow of acts and encounters in the urban environment. The Situationists proposed a "new urbanism" of psychogeography. As one of them wrote, "All space is occupied by the enemy. We are living under a permanent curfew. Not just the cops—the geometry." To revolt against this and resist being herded here and there, people would drift on a journey with no goal – the “continuous derive”
	♥ 9:23am mlsgrrl: Good morning, Trouble. A day off means I get to tune in live!
	♥ 9:24am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and freedom units!
	♥ 9:25am newton: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 a beautiful way to approaching our experience and participation in creating our lives, way of understanding the environment that was put up around us and evading it for one of our own choosing even if the guiding principle of that choice is randomness
	9:25am hoeg: this show is a balm
	9:25am jan: ↳ Song: "suketo" by "adam oko" loving this sound!
	♥ 9:25am Trouble: also put together by jacqueline de jong: libcom.org...
	♥ 9:25am Zinn The Mood: Hey folks. Sitting on the roof with my kid, drinking smoothies and reading, listening to the show. Weird day always, for those who’ve read enough and see through the poison of nationalism. It’s also one of those days for which Trouble has spoken about, regarding the social pressures of feeling like one has to do something on such a day, with such weather. Where does it all derive? Probably marketing, and the depiction in commercials of people having fun always, and there being an underlying philosophy in America of the primacy of the individual, convenience and hedonism being the ultimate states of being, etc etc. This show is always a salve, but particularly today.
	♥ 9:26am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 Merci, Zip 7! I'd heard about some of those Situationist ideas, forgot some of those terms. They were troublemakers; and a bit on the weighty side with the terms, hee.
	♥ 9:26am Crownless Gander: Morning! Just got here and will be in and out of meetings, but I'm loving the ethereal tones. And I second the Solnit quote!
	♥ 9:28am Zip7: ↳ newton @9:25 Well stated!
	♥ 9:29am Irene Trudel: Good morning Trouble & friends! Grateful for this gentle flow of music, as I've been listening / waking up slowly.
	9:30am frank: We keep moving forward. That is all.
	9:30am Marcus Welby M.D.: @newton Thx for the link! Looks good!
	♥ 9:31am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 Zip 7, others. There is a US Situationist website, the Bureau of Public Secrets out of S.F. Run by one Ken Knabb who translated texts from France. Also stuff on Beat poets. It's sort of an archive, not updated often.
	♥ 9:33am Trouble: good morning, Irene!
	9:33am Daniel from PEI.: @Juli, people? Yuck. Isn’t that why we have the radio? :p @Newton, yes things are not too bad, all considered. @ Nationalism, Flags, Borders and Freedom vs The System, …yikes, not touching that one this morning!
	9:33am Toothgrinder Tom: Long live Freeform Radio!
	♥ 9:35am Zip7: ↳ TDK60 @9:31 Thanks -- will have to check this out. Also recommend the Digger archives: www.diggers.org...
	♥ 9:36am Steve Del Sol: Sounds like fun...for some ones.
	♥ 9:37am Crownless Gander: Hopefully not by voting Labour!
	9:40am Daniel from PEI.: @TDK60, I love this site already…haven’t even heard of the situationists in years…. Great user name too, pretty sure that was my first blank cassette …
	9:43am Daniel from PEI.: @zip7, another promising link, thank you. I wonder what other awesome things I’ve forgotten all about….
	♥ 9:44am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @9:35 Zip7: Merci for this! I sing a song about the 1600s English Diggers (out at open mics) and explain I first heard of the term via the 1960s Diggers.
	♥ 9:45am Crownless Gander: ↳ TDK60 @9:44 "A ragged band they called the Diggers..."?
	♥ 9:45am TDK60: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @9:40 Hello Daniel on the isle. It's a fine resource.
	9:47am Carmen: Good morning! I was so disoriented this morning I was like why is Trouble on the radio on Saturday!?!? I am so happy you were on!
	♥ 9:47am TDK60: ↳ Crownless Gander @9:45 Good morning, Crownless Gander. Yes! It's "The World Turned Upside Down" by Leon Rosselson. I first heard it from a Billy Bragg cover.
	♥ 9:48am Crownless Gander: youtu.be... Love that song! I first heard it from BB too and was shocked when I recently learned he hadn't written it.
	♥ 9:49am Zinn The Mood: ↳ Zip7 @9:21 Yes; really like that, brother! For some time have been more consciously abiding that sentiment as I move around the city. Was meandering on a bicycle going to meet the kids at Museum of Nat Hist last week and found myself purposefully riding on the sidewalks of Park Ave, occasionally spouting off, “tax the rich.” Instead of being conditioned to deference we need to build contempt. Occupy Wall St, while predominately encamped in an urban park, adhered to The Situationist’s philosophy in some ways I believe.
	♥ 9:52am john_zilla: happy to be listening live!!!
	♥ 9:53am oshiwoshi: ↳ Trouble @9:17 so you're an actor playing a part in play whose conclusion is foregone? Gotta give it gusto, brio, verve like Brando - how you play it is all you have
	♥ 9:54am TDK60: ↳ Crownless Gander @9:48 C.G. - When I sing it, I add the last two lines of verse 2 to the end of the song, to make it more hopeful.
	♥ 9:55am tom tom the pipers son: good morning trouble and listeners...
	♥ 9:55am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "empty house" by "air" Such an amazing soundtrack. I read the book but I don't think I could make it through the film, given the subject matter. These sounds, though—no skips on this record.
	♥ 9:58am Crownless Gander: ↳ TDK60 @9:54 Ah, that's a nice idea. :)
	♥ 9:58am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ TDK60 @9:44 "The World Turned Upside Down," by Christopher Hill, is a fine history of the Diggers, the Levellers, Ranters, and other 16th-17th century English radicals.
	♥ 10:01am oshiwoshi: ↳ Crownless Gander @9:45 Winstanley!
	♥ 10:03am TDK60: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @9:58 Good morning, Peter: Yes, I've heard the other song with the same name! Chumbawamba did a version.
	♥ 10:05am newton: Money Creates Taste
	♥ 10:06am Noir Lover: You had me at Kushner, Trouble
	♥ 10:06am newton: ↳ Noir Lover @10:06 indeed!
	♥ 10:06am Trouble: jcitytimes.com...
	10:07am N'Lo: Thanks for the lowdown on the Pompidou JC sitch!
	10:07am Daniel from PEI.: …and there it is. The first potential band name of the morning. Thanks, Newton. MCT at CBGBs anyone? What? They’re playing at MSG?!
	♥ 10:07am Webhamster Henry: I actually had a little show in the Jersey City Museum!
	♥ 10:08am newton: real estate developers ArtWash their projects all the time
	♥ 10:08am tom tom the pipers son: @ trouble: thanks for the jacqueline de jong image and situationist times link...don't know about her work ...
	10:09am Daniel from PEI.: “Art is useless and so am I. “ - me.
	♥ 10:09am B R M: @trouble yes, this defunding of the Pompidou also restored arts funding for many state arts non-profits through the hotel tax, which was under threat in the budget. A huge win for the arts state wide. Last, the Pompidou had almost nothing to do with this museum, save the licensing of their name which would cost millions per year. Total boondoggle and hope it is over now.
	♥ 10:09am newton: ↳ Daniel from PEI. @10:07 have to give the credit to Barbara Kruger, I think, maybe it was Jenny Holzer
	♥ 10:11am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ TDK60 @10:03 Morning TDK60! Hanging around for a bit longer, but it's time for me to practice...
	10:12am Crei6hton: Morning WFMU
	♥ 10:12am Dan S: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @9:58 Have you ever heard this version by Leon Rosselson? www.youtube.com...
	♥ 10:14am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "the furthest things ( nicole lizee)" by "kronos q... Omnichord Alert!
	♥ 10:15am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:08 The image of the woman in the lower left quadrant of that de Jong image reminds me of my sister in law on a bad day.
	♥ 10:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:15 hi.... i can't quite tell what she's doing...
	♥ 10:17am newton: ↳ JReganK @10:15 that's better than saying your sister in law on a good day!
	♥ 10:19am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:17 I think she's balancing a tire
	10:19am N'Lo: Oh thanks for the intro to Lafawnda! This is giving me good chills, Trouble!
	♥ 10:19am JReganK: ↳ newton @10:17 Ha! Diplomacy above all!
	♥ 10:20am newton: ↳ JReganK @10:19 I was going to say loosening the bolts on the ire so the thing crashes on the highway
	♥ 10:20am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:19 reminds me..had a dream of ex and mother in law
	♥ 10:20am chresti: ↳ Song: "bella kali" by "las grecas" 🔥
	♥ 10:21am JReganK: ↳ newton @10:20 That's a fair prediction.
	♥ 10:22am newton: she is a saboteur!
	♥ 10:22am tom tom the pipers son: @ trouble: de jong image reminds of pauline boty's work a bit
	♥ 10:22am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:20 A dream in what looks like pastels. No less!
	10:24am still b/p: "loosening the bolts on the ire" = good song lyric.
	♥ 10:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:22 no, just you mentioning yr sis in law... but as far as color mother in law was dressed in bright orange hooded cloak and was quite friendly
	♥ 10:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ still b/p @10:24 a la "putting out the fire ...with gasoline"
	♥ 10:27am newton: ↳ still b/p @10:24 it was a typo, but then I thought , no, don't correct that, it's better
	♥ 10:27am TDK60: ↳ Song: "viva tu" by "manu chao" Manu!
	♥ 10:29am tom tom the pipers son: actually putting out ire , with gasoline
	♥ 10:29am newton: ↳ newton @10:27 it's that randomness principle at work again, letting language wander, misspellings leading to places worth visiting, not on the map
	♥ 10:32am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:26 Funny, how far the acorn falls from the tree, sometimes.
	♥ 10:32am newton: Billy Bragg is so good at being Billy Bragg.
	♥ 10:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @10:32 now it sounds like you're talking about my ex spouse...ha!
	♥ 10:35am Ken From Hyde Park: Walking into town for parade festivities. Still listening. 🎺
	10:37am Toothgrinder Tom: I respectfully disagree about the Pompidou Center, think it would have been a great boon for Jersey City, have a hard time understanding why anyone would object to it but oh well,
	♥ 10:37am Mike in Montreal: This set is stretching my brain :)
	♥ 10:38am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "badaouiah" by "hany mehanna" nice...
	♥ 10:39am chresti: ↳ JReganK @10:15 And the figure at the top is the Michlin woman?
	♥ 10:40am newton: ↳ chresti @10:39 She's the Space Technician who is owned by SpaceX
	♥ 10:41am newton: Their stripes relate them
	♥ 10:41am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:35 This is not such a good plan after all. It's started sprinkling. 😦
	♥ 10:41am chresti: ↳ newton @10:40 eek!
	♥ 10:41am newton: ↳ newton @10:41 I mean the saboteur and the space tech,
	♥ 10:42am disco_nap_: Good morning, Troublemakers 💙
	♥ 10:43am chresti: ↳ newton @10:41 Oh, oof I didn't see the reference in the caption
	♥ 10:43am JReganK: ↳ chresti @10:39 Ha! Obviously!
	♥ 10:44am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:34 ;)
	♥ 10:44am newton: Debord wrote of the private ownership of history, not only a jab at the big cultural institutions, but here she is broadening that to the privatization of space
	♥ 10:48am JReganK: ↳ Song: "space, time and beyond" by "akis" This is like a Bladerunner soundtrack candidate.
	♥ 10:50am disco_nap_: Reading through the earlier comments, I am inspired to echo others’ sentiments. I am soooo grateful that July 4th happens to fall on a Thursday this year because I know Trouble will play and say exactly what I need to hear.
	♥ 10:50am mndave: Welcome back DJ Trouble! Thanks for setting the mood appropriately today.
	♥ 10:51am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): great set. so shimmery
	♥ 10:52am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @10:44 the piece echoes rosenquist' f-111
	♥ 10:52am newton: I didn't know this but, the black and white horizontal stripe french shirt was part of a 19C stereotype of Parisians, "a bit anarchist and a bit rogue who was called an apache"
	♥ 10:55am newton: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:52 I love the spaghetti at the end of F-111 spaghetti like brains
	♥ 10:57am Dances with Moomins: Hi to the Moderns and Trouble. A cool blustery day in Finland. No fireworks or picnics....but wonderful sounds to keep us together, thanx to Trouble. Long time since I heard Eddie Kendricks!
	♥ 10:57am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @10:52 yes i noticed that...apache also a notorious dance. i associate the shirt with french resistance which doesn't really make sense... iirc jean seaberg wears a striped shirt in breathless
	♥ 10:59am Trouble: hey@ stu!
	♥ 11:00am newton: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:57 I guess the stereotype goes back far, which is why we see it recur throughout the 20th C as a commonplace
	♥ 11:00am chresti: ↳ Dances with Moomins @10:57 Cool and blustery sounds ideal!
	♥ 11:01am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @10:55 ha! yeah...
	♥ 11:01am newton: I like the spaghetti partly because canned sapghettin in sauce (chef boyardee) was another technological innovation of the same period as the painting and the F111 also a big can
	11:02am still b/p: Interesting history of Apache dance. socialdance.stanford.edu... And (for later!) a period film of the dance performed. Get a load of the audience! www.youtube.com...
	♥ 11:02am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "girl, you need a change of mind" by "eddie kendri... @ trouble : surprised you like this title...
	♥ 11:03am newton: ↳ still b/p @11:02 thanks still b/p looking forward to checking these later!
	♥ 11:03am oshiwoshi: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:02 #patriarchy?
	♥ 11:05am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ oshiwoshi @11:03 well just a man always thinking he knows better...more like mansplaining
	♥ 11:05am Dances with Moomins: Hi Trouble! Back in the 'hood with the grown-up Moomins dancin around. Cool is cool, if we could only exchange weather I'd take a nice warm 4th! Saw Rhiannon Giddens on Tuesday in Helsinki, great show!
	♥ 11:05am chresti: ↳ newton @11:01 We had chef boyardee ravioli- my mom would divide the raviolis 3 ways for each of us kids.
	♥ 11:06am steveo: Hello! Yes! We are truly on the brink
	11:06am DeepCreep: YES TROUBLE! The Right is Wronger than ever - it’s an obvious mess.
	♥ 11:06am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ newton @11:01 yeah that's plainly "there" in the painting
	♥ 11:06am Crownless Gander: Literally everything you can name has gotten worse under Biden than it ever was under Trump. You just can't make this "lesser evil" argument a second time.
	11:07am Matty cannabis: Preach it Ms. Trouble!! VOTE BLUE! 💙
	♥ 11:07am love2laf: ↳ chresti @11:05 It blew my mind when I heard a radio ad for Chef Boyardee as to the name pronunciation. Enjoying the show, just lurking quietly and keeping cool.
	♥ 11:08am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:06 i know, biden made the climate worse..
	♥ 11:08am Crownless Gander: And he is doing the worst thing any head of state can possibly do: funding and arming a genocide. Voting is not going to fix much, and we all know it now.
	♥ 11:08am chresti: ↳ love2laf @11:07 There you are! Hi!
	♥ 11:08am newton: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:08 but not voting will break more
	11:09am garlic Rob: What a bonus to spend July 4th with one of my favorite DJ’s. Happy 4th from Saratoga Springs Ny On Oct 1777 Burgoyne was defeated in the Battle of Saratoga as a result we have a Democracy (barely) Let’s keep it.
	♥ 11:09am JReganK: Never vote for the lesser of two evils
	♥ 11:09am Crownless Gander: For sure, vote. But you might as well vote for Jill Stein or any communist candidate your state has managed to put up.
	♥ 11:10am TDK60: I'll definitely be voting /against/ the self-described "Republicans" by voting for the so-called "Democrats." I hope the so-called Demz get the current prez offstage, like yesterday.
	11:10am Patty D: Politics on wfmu…what’s next commercials?
	11:11am PATTY: Thank you Trouble!! Voting BLUE the whole way!
	♥ 11:11am JReganK: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:08 Preaching to the choir
	11:12am Marks: I disapprove.
	♥ 11:12am JReganK: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:09 Agreed
	♥ 11:13am Webhamster Henry: Whenever I go to the FDR Library in Hyde Park, I apologize to him and Eleanor by their gravesides for the sorry state off US politics.
	♥ 11:14am JReganK: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:13 Nice country up there
	♥ 11:14am steveo: ↳ Patty D @11:10 It seems like the DJs here have the freedom to discuss anything they like (except possibly promoting their own music)
	11:14am Marks: and as a side not, this and similar acts by other WFMU DJs are responsible for me stopping the financial support of the station. Play music, talk about music. I don't want to listen to any political BS.
	♥ 11:15am pot8o: i personally HIGHLY dislike biden for his horrific handling of the genocide in gaza, but i know trump will just easily give netanyahu a blank check there's even republicans calling for nuking the gaza strip right now (newrepublic.com...)
	♥ 11:15am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:13 can they hear you while they're spinning in their graves?...;)
	♥ 11:16am Trouble: i am 100% opposed to how the US is handling the genocide in gaza. but a republican president would be the same if not worse.
	♥ 11:17am JReganK: ↳ pot8o @11:15 D.C. needs to be sanitized and AIPAC needs to be recognized as an agent of a foreign power.
	♥ 11:18am TDK60: ↳ pot8o @11:15 Morning pot80. It's truly incredible. I agree with Noam Chomsky's view that the Republican Party (of today) is the most dangerous organization in human history.
	♥ 11:18am newton: ↳ Marks @11:14 I'll make up for your withdrawl of financial support. I do want the DJs to have freedon to express their thoughts and ideas about everything not just the tunes they spin.
	♥ 11:19am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:41 Sun peeking through. Parade is back in business!
	♥ 11:19am Zip7: Someone wrote a good comment that was forwarded to me: "[V]oting is, in the words of Rebecca Solnit, a chess move and not a valentine. My vote is not a love letter to any candidate, and it never has been. It is, rather, a tactical decision about the preferred landscape on which I’ll carry out my political work . . . It’s also a recognition that, while the difference between the two major capitalist political parties is only an inch, a lot of vulnerable people exist within that inch. I also like Barbara Ransby’s analogy: voting is like brushing your teeth—it takes only a few minutes, but if you don’t do it, bad things could happen."
	♥ 11:19am JReganK: ↳ Trouble @11:16 I won't vote for any candidate that supports present Israeli policy.
	♥ 11:19am Trouble: @ marks: so you are cool just listening to volunteers giving of their free time to research and play music? you think b/c you don't agree with our politics that listening for free is the best payback? are you also against not paying for school budgets if you don't have a kid in the school system?
	♥ 11:20am steveo: ↳ Marks @11:14 I just donated $10 to help offset your not donating
	♥ 11:20am oshiwoshi: ↳ steveo @11:20 love it - going to follow your example
	♥ 11:21am Mike in Montreal: ↳ Trouble @11:19 yess!
	♥ 11:21am newton: wfmu is more than a jukebox
	11:21am Marks: seems I have some positive impart, good!
	♥ 11:21am JReganK: ↳ steveo @11:20 I'll make a donation if he goes away.
	♥ 11:22am Dances with Moomins: wfmu is more than a jukebox
	♥ 11:22am TDK60: ↳ Zip7 @11:19 Zip7: That's it exactly. For me it's a tactical decision, not an endorsement of everything to do with the self-described "Democrats."
	♥ 11:22am Trouble: thanks @ steveo! oshiwoshi!
	♥ 11:23am Crownless Gander: I like Marx's analysis that elections in a liberal bourgeois democracy are a way of polling how much support there is for a workers' party, as well as a platform to educate the masses about more radical ideas. Other than that, they're not of much political use.
	♥ 11:24am oshiwoshi: i don't get how you can listen to conscious sounds and then whine when the DJ expresses opinions that resonate with the music
	11:24am BW: Biden should pass the torch but what is important: VOTE DEMOCRAT if you care about the world my children and great grandchildren inherit.
	11:24am Michael Kurtzberg: Not interested in your politics..Will never listen to this show again
	♥ 11:25am oshiwoshi: hands up if you're a bot!
	♥ 11:26am newton: ↳ oshiwoshi @11:24 the music too, is consciously chosen, with a conscience, she's not playing Up With People
	♥ 11:28am tom tom the pipers son: also politics is shared, in a civic sense, not possessed or owned, as in "your" politics
	♥ 11:29am pot8o: ↳ JReganK @11:17 absolutely, this madness must end and hopefully soon
	11:29am Marks: Suit yourself, I'm all for freedom of speech! Just keep in mind, that by giving your one sided and maybe ignorant political opinions on the air, you potentially antagonize some of your listeners. If you want WFMU to cater for just one part of the political spectrum, sure, keep going. I just don't think this is smart.
	♥ 11:29am Clincher16": ↳ Zip7 @11:19 That's a keeper!
	♥ 11:30am disco_nap_: Anyone who doesn't want to tune into a radio show run by an actual human with opinions can just listen to one of those algorithmically determined music streaming platforms.
	♥ 11:30am Trouble: i like that@ tom tom. sadly we are dividing ourselves by mine and yours, just like we are dividing up the imaginary loot .when really nothing is truly ours.
	♥ 11:31am newton: No one owns the WFMU Space Technician
	11:32am Michael Kurtzberg: In response to your shared politics..This is not sharing, this is having one person’s opinion shoved down my throat
	♥ 11:32am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): republicans v democrats is so boring both support the 1% or whatever you want to call them we all deserve to have our basics needs met and neither party is doing it. water, shelter, healthy food, health care, dignity. fighting each other is a waste of what energy we have left :( the empire is falling & we gotta rebuild !!! who knows what that will look like but hopefully not whatever is going on right now. not this. we best be knowing our neighbors & getting our hands in community garden beds
	♥ 11:32am Crownless Gander: I don't always agree with Trouble, e.g. in this case, but I 100% support her voicing her opinions and thoughts about the world we find ourselves in. Anyone who's a regular listener to this show knows that's what we're gonna get and looks forward to it.
	♥ 11:34am newton: ↳ Michael Kurtzberg @11:32 Music is political. There are lots of choices for you, other stations or listen to the archives.
	♥ 11:34am love2laf: @Trouble on the plus side sounds like a lot of first time listeners you're getting today.
	♥ 11:34am JReganK: ↳ Crownless Gander @11:32 Agreed. This cancel culture attitude has to be killed with fire.
	♥ 11:35am Clincher16": ↳ Michael Kurtzberg @11:32 I thought you were leaving.
	♥ 11:35am disco_nap_: WFMU has a long history of hosts talking about politics. Remember JM in the AM? It sounds like this is just not the radio station for you if you can't handle it.
	♥ 11:35am Trouble: i'm going to repeat myself here: 'When you assert that the future is already decided, you undermine the motivation to participate in shaping that future' - Rebecca Solnit
	♥ 11:36am disco_nap_: ↳ love2laf @11:34 Right?! Who are these people and what rock did they crawl out from under lol
	♥ 11:36am newton: ↳ Marks @11:29 your complaint isn't that she is discussing politics, its that you disagree with her politics. You seem happy to be voicing the contrariness of your opinion.
	♥ 11:37am TDK60: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @11:32 Morning bixa. Yes, of course they support the 1%. Yet there are some differences by degree. These small differences might make a big difference in some people's lives --as someone (I forget) said above.
	11:37am Matty cannabis: I see some folks have not read about Project 2025 yet.
	♥ 11:37am pot8o: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:35 i'm certain they're fine with radio djs with opinions, just as long as those opinions 100% match their own
	♥ 11:37am newton: ↳ Matty cannabis @11:37 Projectile Vomiting 2025
	♥ 11:37am Zinn The Mood: WEB DuBois (will furnish link in next post), perhaps the greatest intellectual in American history: “In 1956, I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no “two evils” exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say. There is no third party. On the Presidential ballot in a few states (seventeen in 1952), a “Socialist” Party will appear. Few will hear its appeal because it will have almost no opportunity to take part in the campaign and explain its platform. If a voter organizes or advocates a real third-party movement, he may be accused of seeking to overthrow this government by “force and violence.” Anything he advocates by way of significant reform will be called “Communist” and will of necessity be Communist in the sense that it must advocate such things as government ownership of the means of production; government in business; the limitation of private profit; social medicine, government housing and federal aid to education; the total abolition of race bias; and the welfare state. These things are on every Communist program; these things are the aim of socialism. Any American who advocates them today, no matter how sincerely, stands in danger of losing his job, surrendering his social status and perhaps landing in jail. The witnesses against him may be liars or insane or criminals. These witnesses need give no proof for their charges and may not even be known or appear in person. They may be in the pay of the United States Government. A.D.A.’s and “Liberals” are not third parties; they seek to act as tails to kites. But since the kites are self-propelled and radar-controlled, tails are quite superfluous and rather silly. The present Administration is carrying on the greatest preparation for war in the history of mankind. Stevenson promises to maintain or increase this effort. The weight of our taxation is unbearable and rests mainly and deliberately on the poor. This Administration is dominated and directed by wealth and for the accumulation of wealth. It runs smoothly like a well-organized industry and should do so because industry runs it for the benefit of industry. Corporate wealth profits as never before in history. We turn over the national resources to private profit and have few funds left for education, health or housing…” The more things change, the more they stay the same. We’ve been through this before, folks. Will we ever learn?
	11:38am Marks: ↳ newton @11:36 no, I said, it's better not to talk politics
	♥ 11:38am Trouble: the personal is political
	♥ 11:38am pot8o: ↳ Matty cannabis @11:37 i at the very least have, that's why despite all of my opposition to him, i'm still holding my nose and voting for him in november he's the lesser of 2 evils
	♥ 11:38am newton: ↳ Marks @11:38 you are welcome to stop
	11:39am Marks: ↳ newton @11:38 I don't think I started?
	♥ 11:40am TDK60: ↳ pot8o @11:38 pot80: I'm really thinking of putting a clothespin on my nose when I go vote in November!
	♥ 11:41am disco_nap_: ↳ TDK60 @11:40 Ugh same!
	11:41am Рудина: after all, the name of the show is "This Is The Modern World with Trouble" and we all have trouble with the modern world, because the modern world is troubling... I loved the previous show about labor movement songs, and I enjoy her political opinions on this radio show :)
	♥ 11:41am newton: ↳ TDK60 @11:40 hmm, time to invest in clothespins!
	♥ 11:42am pot8o: and even if you don't plan on voting for the presidential election PLEASE vote down ballot! they're trying to implement this horrible ideology in every level of government, from the oval office to your local school board
	11:42am peter in SEA: Happy 4th from the Left Coast, y’all! Power to the People!
	11:44am Рудина: (I would vote Green Party if I were American, but I'm not, so who cares about my opinion...?)
	♥ 11:44am disco_nap_: ↳ pot8o @11:42 It's all about voting down ballot imo. That's where our voices actually matter and our votes make way more of a difference.
	♥ 11:44am Zinn The Mood: The courage, clarity and prescience with which Dubois wrote, in a very frighteningly fascist era way more intense than now, is positively goosebump-inducing. libcom.org...
	♥ 11:44am pot8o: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:44 exactly! there were even a couple local elections in my area that were determined by just 1 vote!
	♥ 11:46am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Zinn The Mood @11:37 hi zinn thanks for sharing, on the nose as always
	♥ 11:46am TDK60: ↳ Рудина @11:44 Hello Рудина. Your opinion still is welcome. I'd rather vote Green too but not this time. I'd rather have Red Eugene Debs but he's unavailable...
	♥ 11:46am love2laf: Thank you Trouble, for the music, for your passionate advocacy, especially for women, and for volunteering your time every week to be here for us. Thanks everyone, time to get a nice cool shower in to start the afternoon off right.
	♥ 11:48am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ TDK60 @11:37 hey! yes - stakes are high. regardless of who wins communities need to self organize now more than ever. no single person is going to make things better, it'll take all of us . hard though when we're all worknig too dang much!!
	♥ 11:48am JReganK: ↳ Zinn The Mood @11:37 Amen!
	11:49am peter in SEA: What @love2laf said! Merci, Trouble!
	11:49am StringOFperils: Thanks, Trouble. Always enjoyable.
	♥ 11:49am disco_nap_: ↳ Рудина @11:44 Happy to hear your opinion as we live in a global society. I used to be a registered Green Party member. But then an activist friend convinced me that that is why progressive candidates don't get through in the "lesser of two evils" party. That, combined with never seeing the people I voted for actually get elected, convinced me to begrudgingly register with the "lesser of two evils."
	♥ 11:50am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): love your show trouble big love and big thanks for hosting
	♥ 11:51am Crownless Gander: ↳ Song: "star of bethlehem" by "neil young" One of the best Neil songs, and that's saying a lot!
	♥ 11:52am disco_nap_: Thank you so much, Trouble! I don't always agree with your opinions but I always value the research that you do, the care you take in presenting your ideas, and the debates that you spark in the comment board. And the wonderful tunes of course!
	♥ 11:52am JReganK: ↳ Song: "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton" Nice follow up to Neil
	♥ 11:52am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Song: "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton" <3
	♥ 11:53am newton: ↳ Song: "little bit of rain" by "karen dalton" w0w
	♥ 11:53am pot8o: as someone who's lgbtq+ and lives in a deep red state, i'm personally terrified about a trump victory & i hope that everyone in america does their best to stop him before he plunges this country into an authoritarian nightmare
	♥ 11:53am Zinn The Mood: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @11:46 No sweat, comrade. All Power to The People.
	11:54am traven: Perhaps the most important thing is that it's possible for us to disagree without being disagreeable.
	♥ 11:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Trouble. Some say democracy dies in darkness. Seems to be dying in broad daylight as well.
	♥ 11:55am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "In My Arms, Many Flowers" by "daniel schmidt" I have this one, of course. I was playing in a gamelan yesterday.
	♥ 11:56am Trouble: thanks for sitting in , see you next week!
	♥ 11:56am TDK60: Fine show today, DJ T. Merci! Peace.
	11:56am Ochre Ogre: ↳ peter in SEA @11:42 And to you! "People Have the Power" Patti Smith
	♥ 11:56am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	♥ 11:56am listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Trouble, and glad for the weekly updates on local and national politics! The more eyes on these characters that get elected or appointed to offices and posts, the less likely they'll be to sneak damaging, regressive shit through after tacking it to budgets or by passing it at poorly/unattended town meetings.
	♥ 11:56am tom tom the pipers son: thanks trouble, go roast some weinies...jus yankin' yer chain...love the show
	♥ 11:57am newton: Thanks Trouble!
	♥ 11:57am oshiwoshi: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:55 have you read a house in bali colin mcphee?
	11:57am Ochre Ogre: Thanks Trouble!
	♥ 11:58am Zip7: Thanks for another great show, Trouble! The value of your work is reflected in the fact that so many show up week after week for appointment listening and chatboard participation. You provide an invaluable locus for community
	♥ 11:58am Webhamster Henry: ↳ oshiwoshi @11:57 Nope! but I've been playing in gamelans of one sort or another for about 8 years I think.
	♥ 11:58am newton: now I can check those apache links from still b/p
	♥ 11:58am oshiwoshi: ↳ Webhamster Henry @11:58 that must b the best thing
	♥ 12:00pm Crownless Gander: Oh wow, we're at the end? Thanks, that was fantastic!
	♥ 12:01pm chresti: Thanks Trouble!

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