WFMU: Tony Coulter: Playlist from July 23, 2013

Listener comments!
	8:41am Grey & Pink: Who are the plain people of England?
	11:15am Tony Coulter: Hullo dere, Grey & Pink -- you're early! The Plain People of England, Nobodies, and Murphy No Geisha are all bands led by Rob Murphy -- best known (sort of known!) for the group Orchestre Murphy. He's a great, great British songwriter who's been releasing stuff for over 30 years, but he's still barely known -- partly because he keeps on changing the names of his groups!
	🥁 11:52am listener james from westwood: good tuesday, tony, and all hiss fans near and far!
	🥁 11:54am listener james from westwood: (also known as the hiss army!)
	11:54am Tony Coulter: Morning James! Sad to say, my cassette deck crapped out on me, so today's show will feature CD-Rs skipping in place of the hiss.
	🥁 11:56am listener james from westwood: nertz! sad to hear about the dead tech. either way, it's don't-miss event radio sans archive!
	11:59am Uncle Michael: no hiss bliss?
	12:00pm Carmichael: Hiya Tony. Have you tried to fix the deck using the "3-foot drop test"? Make sure you measure accurately!
	12:01pm Tony Coulter: Hola, Uncle Michael and Carmichael! I'll probably try the hit the thing with a hammer repeatedly test first.
	12:02pm Uncle Michael: Is your hammer calibrated?
	12:03pm Tony Coulter: Nope, it's Calabrian.
	12:04pm DCE: good day, sir Tony
	12:04pm Jeremy N: It's hammer time! Greets all.
	12:05pm Carmichael: Make sure to hammer out a'love between your brothers and a'sisters, aaaaaallll over this land.
	12:06pm Rich in Washington: When you're a hammer, everything looks like Tony's cassette deck.
	12:06pm Tony Coulter: Heya, DCE & Jeremy!
	12:08pm Rich in Washington: Sorry to hear about your tape deck. I'm looking for one, too. So hard to find a simple, single well, non-auto reverse tape deck these days.
	12:08pm Tony Coulter: Urge was kind of Kevin Harrison's pop band. They only released two singles. "Bobby" was one of those, and was a minor hit in the U.K.
	🥁 12:09pm listener james from westwood: presumably one can find tape decks at places like goodwill, but not with those sorts of features, and likely in less than decent condition.
	12:09pm Tony Coulter: Hey Rich! I saw my tape deck's death coming, so it wasn't too much of a shock.
	12:10pm Jim Pastor: been weeks since I've been able to catch the show - glad to be tuned in
	12:10pm Jeremy N: I wonder how much that Nakamichi that manually flipped the tape goes for now...
	12:11pm Tony Coulter: Heya Jim! Glad to see you here.
	🥁 12:11pm listener james from westwood: tony: what sort of music do you want to play at your funeral? tape deck: ha ha, very fuckin' funny.
	12:12pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	12:13pm Tony Coulter: It's always been surprisingly hard to find cassette decks that play at the right speed -- so many are off by just a bit.
	12:16pm Tony Coulter: But fortunately for this show, CD-Rs are the modern man's cassette. Or at least they were, until cassettes came back into fashion.
	12:17pm Rich in Washington: I am already getting nostalgic for CD-Rs.
	🥁 12:18pm listener james from westwood: wfmu, the home of recording formats in eclipse.
	12:18pm Rich in Washington: Has anyone here ever experienced Reddit/vinyl? It's a Reddit forum composed mainly of 15-to-20-ish (mostly) males who just discovered vinyl records exist.
	12:19pm Tony Coulter: mp3s killed the radio star -- except on FMU.
	12:21pm Tony Coulter: Have never seen Reddit, no. I have watched some of those "vinyl community" vids on youtube, though.
	🥁 12:22pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Good afternoon Captain Capstan. Get that pinch-roller free of disease ASAP...
	12:23pm Tony Coulter: Heya,Turnip!
	12:23pm Uncle Michael: I was participating in the Youtube Vinyl Community facebook group for a while but I bailed because it's just to active to keep up with and not much of it's that interesting.
	12:24pm Uncle Michael: Tony, have you been degaussed recently?
	12:24pm northguineahills: Good happy Tuesnoon to you all!
	12:25pm Tony Coulter: Hey, NGH! @ Uncle Michael: Are you saying I have gas?
	12:29pm Carmichael: Tony, I have had a Sony TC-K61 deck for decades. The motor just lit itself on fire in a fit of despair.
	12:31pm Tony Coulter: Cassette sepaku.
	12:37pm Grey & Pink: just switched on and thought Siouxie and Banshees were playing. Swimming horses indeed!
	12:38pm Tony Coulter: Greets, G & P!
	12:40pm Uncle Michael: You have gauss.
	12:42pm Grey & Pink: you tube vinyl community - now there's a contradiction - surely you want the best possible digital sound on your pc. Then again to see an old scratchy piece of vinyl playing on an ancient turntable in a YT video is kind of interesting and nostalgic and perhaps the only way you may ever get to hear that track played on vinyl.
	12:48pm Tony Coulter: Speaking as someone who has tons of vinyl, I think vinyl fetishism has gotten out of hand. It's the music that matters, not the medium -- isn't it?
	🥁 12:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Aye, Tony. I love a good LP package, something that adds to the whole experience, but when every new release is on 180g vinyl & comes with ultra-heavy board gatefold jackets (and $25+ pricetags) it gets a bit much... Hell, many of those classic old obscure LPs that folks are killing each other for on eBay were pretty thin & flimsy, vinyl-wise...
	🥁 12:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: (re: 1980-era Sky record label releases)
	12:53pm Carmichael: To a degree, Tony. I much prefer vinyl for the nostalgic element, but yeah, the whole hipster vinyl thing has gotten out of hand. BTW, I picked up an instructional LP for the pipe organ! It's pretty cool, great for dropping into segues.
	12:53pm Jeremy N: This Japanese title song is very familiar but I can't place it.
	12:53pm Grey & Pink: well to be truthfull - I used to love to go to hi fi shops to see $10,000 turntables - to hear them playing some crappy record - did it sound any better than a $100 turntable? So when you see these turntables in YT videos it reminds of those days that I used to fantasize about owning a Voyd Valdi or a Goldmund Turntable. As for the music - you are right - thats what matters not so much the medium.
	12:55pm Tony Coulter: @ Jeremy: I've played it on my show in the past -- perhaps that's it.
	12:56pm Carmichael: I was just thinking the same thing, Jeremy.
	🥁 12:57pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Another precious packaging fad now seems to be the 1-sided LP with custom laser etching on the flip. Couple that with the heavy-board gatefold and we've got fetishism run amok...
	12:59pm Tony Coulter: Re: vinyl fetishism. What gets me are people who claim to like a given artist, but will only buy their stuff if it's on vinyl.
	1:02pm Tony Coulter: There are no credits on this Nobodies CD-R except one: It's produced by Bob Drake (of Thinking Plague).
	🥁 1:02pm listener james from westwood: i reconnected recently w a college roommate who, during the late 80s, was the biggest buyer of cds i've ever known. he bought hundreds of them in freshman year alone, extolled the virtues of those that were labeled "DDD," etc. massive, massive audiophile. in his more recent email, he mentioned how he was getting rid of his now thousands of cds and buying the albums ... on vinyl. i gave him the info on the next fmu record fair and wished him well.
	1:03pm Jeremy N: I have a vague sense that the ? title song is a european hit of the sixties..?
	1:04pm Uncle Michael: I go to record stores and buy the weird shit out of the dollar bin.
	🥁 1:04pm Rev. Turnip Druid: sigh... listener james, I'm in a similar predicament. Too many CDs and the used/trade market is dead as an asphalt possum...
	1:05pm Jeremy N: So many different factors are involved in the current vinyl fad. But fetishism of all stripes seems on the rise in general culture, no?
	1:05pm Jeremy N: UM: Exactly my strategy which continues to this day.
	1:05pm MrFab: Hey, y'all! And how 'bout those vinyl pressing plants that compress all that "warm" and "greater dynamic range" to mp3 before mastering to vinyl? I stick with '50s thirft store vinyl, and usually get modern stuff in convenient digital formats.
	1:05pm Tony Coulter: @ Jeremy: Could be -- there are no credits on that CD-R either. I'll listen to it again with that in mind.
	🥁 1:07pm listener james from westwood: indeed. the collecting instinct permeates a lot of subcultures. marketers know it, too. witness the amount of merch that likely changed hands at the san diego comic-con last weekend. the need to be seen owing something, or to finish a collection the quickest, is a nonzero percentage of various collection fandoms.
	1:07pm Jeremy N: Rev, I say hold onto them CDs, if the internets keeps cracking down on distribution, they may become desirable once more.
	🥁 1:07pm listener james from westwood: which, don't get me wrong, is fine if that's not mortgage money going out the door!
	1:08pm Tony Coulter: @ MrFab: You hit the nail on the head re modern vinyl. So much of it sounds terrible. So few labels get it right these days. (Oh, and greets!)
	1:10pm Jeremy N: Yes, it's more about the music than the medium but it's really a lot about distribution on the practical level, about how music enters our lives.
	1:10pm Rich in Washington: I think the silliest example of vinyl fetishism gone too far might be the new Andy Kaufman 'album', composed of micro-cassette recordings he made. You can buy it as a digital download for 11 bucks or so, buy it on CD and then on 12" vinyl record for 20+ bucks. I'm not sure why you'd want it on vinyl over the other formats. The sound quality of micro-cassette?
	1:11pm Rich in Washington: There are other, more grievous examples. I just thought that one struck me as odd this week.
	1:11pm Tony Coulter: @ Jeremy: I suspect you're right that CDs will eventually become fetishized as well, as soon as people realize how much great music is only on CD -- and as soon as enough time passes for them to seem exotic.
	1:12pm Jim Pastor: when a media phases out, information is invariably lost....
	1:13pm Rich in Washington: I'm already fetishizing CDs. I like making CD jackets, sort of like the ones from Creel Pone CD-R releases. I am all ready for the CD resurgence.
	1:14pm Rich in Washington: the more that friends tell me that CDs are going bye-bye, the more I want to make them.
	🥁 1:14pm Rev. Turnip Druid: as a designer. CD packaging CAN be great. Just need to get people once & for all to NEVER AGAIN consider the jewel-case. It's too fragile to mail, and it has no soul.... lots of options with digipak design, though.
	🥁 1:14pm Snortley: Of course, CDs eventually delaminate, so any fetish would be some sort of audio necrophilia.
	1:15pm Jeremy N: I definitely fetishize my japanese soundtrack CDs, they have beautiful artwork and some very cool packaging.
	🥁 1:16pm Rev. Turnip Druid: I buy vinyl whenever possible & if there's a choice .. but so many DIY projects out there, CD is the only option, & gotta support the rebel factions. .. So the collection is slowly evolving into mostly limited & handmade things by local noisemakers & allies elsewhere. .. and that's a kick.
	🥁 1:16pm Rev. Turnip Druid: different kind of pkg fetishizing in that case: the short-run local obsessive-artist thing. I can get behind that.
	🥁 1:17pm listener james from westwood: rev., 100% of those cds my former roommate bought in freshman year were not only in jewel cases, but longboxes. horrifying.
	1:17pm Tony Coulter: imho, all media formats have their plusses and minuses -- and can sound good with the right mastering.
	1:19pm Carmichael: Tony & Jeremy: I've been running that ? title song through my cranium, and I keep getting an unknown Hollies song and Cleaners from Venus' Clara Bow.
	🥁 1:19pm Rev. Turnip Druid: hah! The longbox... talk about a vestigial organ... what a strange thing those were.
	1:21pm Jim Pastor: digging this Cup of Tea. Think I'll augment it with some Earl Grey
	1:21pm Tony Coulter: Ha! A song about fetishism.
	1:21pm Jim Pastor: iced
	1:27pm Uncle Michael: digipaks suck.I don't want analog cover wear on a digital storage format. At least with a broken jewel case I can replace it.
	1:30pm Jeremy N: I don't see why they can't all be like the japanese cardboard LP style sleeves. I'll accept some shelf wear.
	1:32pm DCE: nice melancholia tea brewing up here
	1:33pm Rich in Washington: I too like the LP-style CD sleeve. They can make shelf-reading somewhat daunting. I've been putting my self-made CDs in library card-catalog-style drawers and those CD boxes you can buy at Ikea.
	🥁 1:38pm Rev. Turnip Druid: digging the plain people for reasons I can't understand at this point...
	1:38pm Tony Coulter: Rob Murphy's real name is Rob Storey. He really should be better known than he is. Then again, he works hard at being obscure.
	🥁 1:40pm listener james from westwood: and now we know ... the REST of the storey!
	1:41pm Tony Coulter: He's the man behind Murphy No Geisha, Nobodies, Plain People of England -- and Orchestre Murphy, Murphy Federation, Miners of Banal ... and a bunch of others.
	1:42pm Grey & Pink: I believe in Japan they put out blu ray audio discs. I tried a couple and decided that they sounded no different to the normal. I mean can you imagine, what was I thinking buying Hawkwind's In search of space on bluray uncompressed audio discs. It sounded no different at all! Whats more for the price I payed I expected a miniture space log book that came with the original vinyl. Sadly there was no such thing.
	1:45pm Grey & Pink: a little more Kevin Ayers sounding this last set!
	1:45pm Rich in Washington: with all the stories of CDs circling the obsolescence drain, I am surprised there weren't more attempts in its long history to offer more content on CDs. Or have I missed something?
	1:47pm Grey & Pink: well lps were always around 30 mins long - not 75 mins of demos, outtakes and interviews etc!
	1:50pm Grey & Pink: what is the longest LP of all time?
	1:51pm Tony Coulter: Any one of those that end with a locked groove?
	1:52pm Grey & Pink: yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them,
	1:55pm Tony Coulter: I have a Heiner Goebbels LP that's around 60 minutes long.
	1:55pm Grey & Pink: probably the Grateful Dead Live, Europe 72 - the complete gigs - 450 hours worth of live dead! released in 2010.
	1:57pm Tony Coulter: re Goebbels: I'm talking a single LP.
	1:58pm Grey & Pink: and just to think, the dead are now releasing their live stuff on vinyl. Probably need a fork lift truck to get 450 hours worth of vinyl into you house!
	2:00pm Grey & Pink: probably candidate for the worst long lp - PIL - Metal box - 3 records of boring discordant dub!
	2:01pm Grey & Pink: saying that, I have never managed to get through the Nitty Gritty's Will the Circle be unbroken box set!
	2:02pm Rich in Washington: Even though it's one of my most cherished records from my youth, I nominate The Clash's Sandinista for 2nd - one disc of pretty OK-ish Clash songs with two discs of self-indulgent dross.
	2:04pm Grey & Pink: yeh I agree Rich - was'nt one side the failed recordings of the aborted trip to Jamaica to record at Lee Perry's Black Ark studio?
	2:05pm MrFab: "Metal Box" was only 2 disks. Probably the album I have listened to more than any other in my life. And, yep, "Sandinista" was my most-listened-to Clash album! So odd and unpredictable...
	2:05pm northguineahills: Sandinista is what converted me to a Clash fan, before that, i was still fighting my demons to accept pop music (this would have be '98)
	2:06pm Grey & Pink: look away now TC but I must admit to owning but never listening to the Art Bears box set - I think it was all the remixed stuff that put me off!
	2:10pm Grey & Pink: box sets/double discs I absolutely loved however - 1. Wattstax 2. The Band - Rock of Ages Over indulgent double albums in my bloated opinion:- 1. Hendrix - Ladyland 2.Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti 3. Yes - tales of topographical Ocean
	2:12pm northguineahills: *be=been
	2:14pm Tony Coulter: I'm still not a convert to Clash-ism. I do like PIL, though.
	2:16pm northguineahills: I do like pop music today, as I enjoyed the Plain People of England.
	2:20pm Grey & Pink: I think to like the Clash means buying into the whole punk philosophy - not Grey and Pink but Black and white!
	2:21pm northguineahills: Sandinista also had some nice dubisms that can draw you in.
	2:23pm Tony Coulter: Just playing the devil's advocate here -- and talking through my ass, as I don't actually own any of their albums -- but the Clash always seemed like fake corporate punks to me. But I will set that prejudice aside and give Sandinsta a try.
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: er, "Sandinista" -- damn butterfingers.
	2:26pm northguineahills: London Calling does have that fake corporate punk effect, but I still enjoy it. I didn't get it until after Sandinista.
	2:26pm Uncle Michael: Joe Strummer was a guy that wanted to be a rock and roll musician for a living. If that's fake punk, I'll forgive it. He had a pub rock band and then saw the writing on the wall with punk and went that way. I think the Clash made some pretty great records along the way.
	2:29pm DCE: digging this computer trip
	2:32pm MrFab: As a young teen, I looked to the Clash the way baby boomers did to Dylan. I don't know why, they were just a rock band. But they seemed a lot "realer" to me than, say Bruuuce, with his whole phony workin' man schtick.
	2:34pm Rich in Washington: I recently just played all the toss-off tracks from Sandinista on Grooveshark and I am still really sentimental about that album. It was the first punk/new wave record I ever got and it was an Xmas gift. Still have it, in fact.
	2:34pm northguineahills: mi tambien (sobre die trip computer die)
	2:35pm MrFab: Having said that, Tony, the Clash may sound utterly meaningless to you now, at this late date, and you past your impressionable teen years (tho I'm sure you still look mahvelous!).
	2:36pm Rich in Washington: I do agree, though, that they had this contrived rebel image, sort of like Bruce Springsteen's aw-shucks, small-town persona. But what did I know when I was 13 or whatever? I probably wouldn't have gotten involved in leftish politics had it not been for The Clash.
	2:36pm Rich in Washington: Love this, Tony! Great stuff!
	2:37pm northguineahills: I'll admit that I never heard the Clash until I was in college, in the mid-90s, but I didn't get into music until I was 16.
	2:38pm Uncle Michael: I suppose the Ckash don't hold up all that way to my jaded, middle aged cynicism either. That said....There's a Clash tune coming on Friday.
	2:39pm Rich in Washington: Recently picked up a copy of Mick Jones' other band Bad's Big Top Phoenix, which has lots of weird interstitial stuff that reminds me a lot of Sandinista. Kind of a bad (no pun intended) album with a few great moments.
	2:41pm Rich in Washington: @Uncle Michael: Do you do a show? Where/when?
	2:43pm Uncle Michael: I do one here...on Fridays. Noon eastern.
	2:44pm Uncle Michael: Wow, my previous comment betrays the hydrocodone I took this morning.
	2:47pm Tony Coulter: @ Rich: Michael has a new(ish) show here on the GTDR stream, called "Hinky Dinky Time." Fridays, noon to 3:00. It's fab!
	2:48pm Uncle Michael: Thank you, Tony.
	2:50pm Tony Coulter: Sorry I never get to listen live, btw. I'm almost alway working then. (Hence my absence from the live comments page.)
	2:52pm DCE: ngh, what did you do the first 15 years of your life?!
	2:55pm Joan: I'm a little behind here, but I always thought the Clash seemed a little canned, not really punks at all. I saw them in Hyde Park in the Summer of 86, after I'd smoked some dope wiht some Rastas there. Barely remember it. I think it would be hard for any artist to fill 2 records with truly good stuff all the way through--not a comp., but music made at that time.
	2:56pm Tony Coulter: This Die Trip Computer Die disc ain't going to be finished by the top of the hour, despite my efforts to keep my mic breaks short. I'm going to play the whole thing, though -- which means running over around 8 minutes or so. Stick around!
	2:56pm Uncle Michael: Good! Great stuff!
	2:57pm Tony Coulter: Hey, Joan!!
	2:58pm Joan: Hey Tony! I'm sticking around.
	2:58pm DCE: I'll stick around for this, yes
	2:58pm northguineahills: I read books non-stop and played soccer. I must have got kicked in the head when I was 16.
	2:59pm DCE: certainly worth pasttimes as well, ngh!
	🥁 3:00pm listener james from westwood: i'm in my barrel and heading for the falls!
	3:07pm Uncle Michael: Thanks for the show, Tony.
	🥁 3:07pm listener james from westwood: many thanks, tony! good tuesday, all!
	3:07pm Tony Coulter: See you everybody!!

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July 23, 2013: Tony Coulter Presents Tape Hiss: Urge, Murphy No Geisha, Nobodies, Plain People of England, & Die Trip Computer Die (PLEASE NOTE: "Tape Hiss" shows are not archived.)

Artist	Track	Album	Year
The In-Theme	Holger Hiller: Toyshopshoptoy

Urge	Revolving Loop "Revolving Loop" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Bobby "Bobby" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	New Sex "New Sex" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Shadow Man "Shadow Man" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Ready for Life "Ready for Life" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Sea of Storms "Sea of Storms" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Inkman "Inkman" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Minutes to Go "Minutes to Go" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Megadeath "Megadeath" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Nowhere to Go "Nowhere to Go" by "Urge"	Demos	1980
Urge	Marching "Marching" by "Urge"	Demos	1980

Murphy No Geisha	Nazo Nazo "Nazo Nazo" by "Murphy No Geisha"	Murphy No Geisha	2000
Murphy No Geisha	Chotto "Chotto" by "Murphy No Geisha"	Murphy No Geisha	2000
Murphy No Geisha	Kyoko Chan No Uta	Murphy No Geisha	2000
Murphy No Geisha	?? [Japanese title]	Murphy No Geisha	2000

Nobodies	Pastiche "Pastiche" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Art "Art" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Canteen Culture "Canteen Culture" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Crisis, What Crisis? "Crisis, What Crisis?" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	La Defense "La Defense" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Days of Lead "Days of Lead" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Moos "Moos" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Decca Hopefuls "Decca Hopefuls" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Kremlinoligist "Kremlinoligist" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Man Who Died Laughing "Man Who Died Laughing" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Miserychords "Miserychords" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Power "Power" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Bower "Bower" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Quand Tu Liras Cette Lettre	Cup of Tea	2009
Nobodies	Going Down Gracefully "Going Down Gracefully" by "Nobodies"	Cup of Tea	2009

The Plain People of England	Siren	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	Every Man Jack	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	London Derriere	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	Group Sex	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	Drake	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	An Irish Airhead Foresees His Death	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	Civil War	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	Battle Train to Clonsilla	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	My Battle with Irony	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	DNA "DNA" by "The Plain People of England"	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?
The Plain People of England	The Night Before the Morning After	The Gab – Gift or Curse?	200?

Die Trip Computer Die	System of the Tortured	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Gestations "Gestations" by "Die Trip Computer Die"	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	A Bad Idea "A Bad Idea" by "Die Trip Computer Die"	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	In Bed with 1,000 Priests	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Seductive Song of War	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Messrs. Smirkett & Bloat	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Fink Drummer	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Chief-Inspector Kickback	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Contains Psychological	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Goodbye Again	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Every 'Why' Is a 'How'	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	The Naked Statue	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Roll, Frankie, Roll	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	A Short Film About Gas	Flowerball	200?
Die Trip Computer Die	Flowerball "Flowerball" by "Die Trip Computer Die"	Flowerball	200?

The Out-Theme	"The Out-Theme"

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Listener comments!
	8:41am Grey & Pink: Who are the plain people of England?
	11:15am Tony Coulter: Hullo dere, Grey & Pink -- you're early! The Plain People of England, Nobodies, and Murphy No Geisha are all bands led by Rob Murphy -- best known (sort of known!) for the group Orchestre Murphy. He's a great, great British songwriter who's been releasing stuff for over 30 years, but he's still barely known -- partly because he keeps on changing the names of his groups!
	🥁 11:52am listener james from westwood: good tuesday, tony, and all hiss fans near and far!
	🥁 11:54am listener james from westwood: (also known as the hiss army!)
	11:54am Tony Coulter: Morning James! Sad to say, my cassette deck crapped out on me, so today's show will feature CD-Rs skipping in place of the hiss.
	🥁 11:56am listener james from westwood: nertz! sad to hear about the dead tech. either way, it's don't-miss event radio sans archive!
	11:59am Uncle Michael: no hiss bliss?
	12:00pm Carmichael: Hiya Tony. Have you tried to fix the deck using the "3-foot drop test"? Make sure you measure accurately!
	12:01pm Tony Coulter: Hola, Uncle Michael and Carmichael! I'll probably try the hit the thing with a hammer repeatedly test first.
	12:02pm Uncle Michael: Is your hammer calibrated?
	12:03pm Tony Coulter: Nope, it's Calabrian.
	12:04pm DCE: good day, sir Tony
	12:04pm Jeremy N: It's hammer time! Greets all.
	12:05pm Carmichael: Make sure to hammer out a'love between your brothers and a'sisters, aaaaaallll over this land.
	12:06pm Rich in Washington: When you're a hammer, everything looks like Tony's cassette deck.
	12:06pm Tony Coulter: Heya, DCE & Jeremy!
	12:08pm Rich in Washington: Sorry to hear about your tape deck. I'm looking for one, too. So hard to find a simple, single well, non-auto reverse tape deck these days.
	12:08pm Tony Coulter: Urge was kind of Kevin Harrison's pop band. They only released two singles. "Bobby" was one of those, and was a minor hit in the U.K.
	🥁 12:09pm listener james from westwood: presumably one can find tape decks at places like goodwill, but not with those sorts of features, and likely in less than decent condition.
	12:09pm Tony Coulter: Hey Rich! I saw my tape deck's death coming, so it wasn't too much of a shock.
	12:10pm Jim Pastor: been weeks since I've been able to catch the show - glad to be tuned in
	12:10pm Jeremy N: I wonder how much that Nakamichi that manually flipped the tape goes for now...
	12:11pm Tony Coulter: Heya Jim! Glad to see you here.
	🥁 12:11pm listener james from westwood: tony: what sort of music do you want to play at your funeral? tape deck: ha ha, very fuckin' funny.
	12:12pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	12:13pm Tony Coulter: It's always been surprisingly hard to find cassette decks that play at the right speed -- so many are off by just a bit.
	12:16pm Tony Coulter: But fortunately for this show, CD-Rs are the modern man's cassette. Or at least they were, until cassettes came back into fashion.
	12:17pm Rich in Washington: I am already getting nostalgic for CD-Rs.
	🥁 12:18pm listener james from westwood: wfmu, the home of recording formats in eclipse.
	12:18pm Rich in Washington: Has anyone here ever experienced Reddit/vinyl? It's a Reddit forum composed mainly of 15-to-20-ish (mostly) males who just discovered vinyl records exist.
	12:19pm Tony Coulter: mp3s killed the radio star -- except on FMU.
	12:21pm Tony Coulter: Have never seen Reddit, no. I have watched some of those "vinyl community" vids on youtube, though.
	🥁 12:22pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Good afternoon Captain Capstan. Get that pinch-roller free of disease ASAP...
	12:23pm Tony Coulter: Heya,Turnip!
	12:23pm Uncle Michael: I was participating in the Youtube Vinyl Community facebook group for a while but I bailed because it's just to active to keep up with and not much of it's that interesting.
	12:24pm Uncle Michael: Tony, have you been degaussed recently?
	12:24pm northguineahills: Good happy Tuesnoon to you all!
	12:25pm Tony Coulter: Hey, NGH! @ Uncle Michael: Are you saying I have gas?
	12:29pm Carmichael: Tony, I have had a Sony TC-K61 deck for decades. The motor just lit itself on fire in a fit of despair.
	12:31pm Tony Coulter: Cassette sepaku.
	12:37pm Grey & Pink: just switched on and thought Siouxie and Banshees were playing. Swimming horses indeed!
	12:38pm Tony Coulter: Greets, G & P!
	12:40pm Uncle Michael: You have gauss.
	12:42pm Grey & Pink: you tube vinyl community - now there's a contradiction - surely you want the best possible digital sound on your pc. Then again to see an old scratchy piece of vinyl playing on an ancient turntable in a YT video is kind of interesting and nostalgic and perhaps the only way you may ever get to hear that track played on vinyl.
	12:48pm Tony Coulter: Speaking as someone who has tons of vinyl, I think vinyl fetishism has gotten out of hand. It's the music that matters, not the medium -- isn't it?
	🥁 12:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Aye, Tony. I love a good LP package, something that adds to the whole experience, but when every new release is on 180g vinyl & comes with ultra-heavy board gatefold jackets (and $25+ pricetags) it gets a bit much... Hell, many of those classic old obscure LPs that folks are killing each other for on eBay were pretty thin & flimsy, vinyl-wise...
	🥁 12:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: (re: 1980-era Sky record label releases)
	12:53pm Carmichael: To a degree, Tony. I much prefer vinyl for the nostalgic element, but yeah, the whole hipster vinyl thing has gotten out of hand. BTW, I picked up an instructional LP for the pipe organ! It's pretty cool, great for dropping into segues.
	12:53pm Jeremy N: This Japanese title song is very familiar but I can't place it.
	12:53pm Grey & Pink: well to be truthfull - I used to love to go to hi fi shops to see $10,000 turntables - to hear them playing some crappy record - did it sound any better than a $100 turntable? So when you see these turntables in YT videos it reminds of those days that I used to fantasize about owning a Voyd Valdi or a Goldmund Turntable. As for the music - you are right - thats what matters not so much the medium.
	12:55pm Tony Coulter: @ Jeremy: I've played it on my show in the past -- perhaps that's it.
	12:56pm Carmichael: I was just thinking the same thing, Jeremy.
	🥁 12:57pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Another precious packaging fad now seems to be the 1-sided LP with custom laser etching on the flip. Couple that with the heavy-board gatefold and we've got fetishism run amok...
	12:59pm Tony Coulter: Re: vinyl fetishism. What gets me are people who claim to like a given artist, but will only buy their stuff if it's on vinyl.
	1:02pm Tony Coulter: There are no credits on this Nobodies CD-R except one: It's produced by Bob Drake (of Thinking Plague).
	🥁 1:02pm listener james from westwood: i reconnected recently w a college roommate who, during the late 80s, was the biggest buyer of cds i've ever known. he bought hundreds of them in freshman year alone, extolled the virtues of those that were labeled "DDD," etc. massive, massive audiophile. in his more recent email, he mentioned how he was getting rid of his now thousands of cds and buying the albums ... on vinyl. i gave him the info on the next fmu record fair and wished him well.
	1:03pm Jeremy N: I have a vague sense that the ? title song is a european hit of the sixties..?
	1:04pm Uncle Michael: I go to record stores and buy the weird shit out of the dollar bin.
	🥁 1:04pm Rev. Turnip Druid: sigh... listener james, I'm in a similar predicament. Too many CDs and the used/trade market is dead as an asphalt possum...
	1:05pm Jeremy N: So many different factors are involved in the current vinyl fad. But fetishism of all stripes seems on the rise in general culture, no?
	1:05pm Jeremy N: UM: Exactly my strategy which continues to this day.
	1:05pm MrFab: Hey, y'all! And how 'bout those vinyl pressing plants that compress all that "warm" and "greater dynamic range" to mp3 before mastering to vinyl? I stick with '50s thirft store vinyl, and usually get modern stuff in convenient digital formats.
	1:05pm Tony Coulter: @ Jeremy: Could be -- there are no credits on that CD-R either. I'll listen to it again with that in mind.
	🥁 1:07pm listener james from westwood: indeed. the collecting instinct permeates a lot of subcultures. marketers know it, too. witness the amount of merch that likely changed hands at the san diego comic-con last weekend. the need to be seen owing something, or to finish a collection the quickest, is a nonzero percentage of various collection fandoms.
	1:07pm Jeremy N: Rev, I say hold onto them CDs, if the internets keeps cracking down on distribution, they may become desirable once more.
	🥁 1:07pm listener james from westwood: which, don't get me wrong, is fine if that's not mortgage money going out the door!
	1:08pm Tony Coulter: @ MrFab: You hit the nail on the head re modern vinyl. So much of it sounds terrible. So few labels get it right these days. (Oh, and greets!)
	1:10pm Jeremy N: Yes, it's more about the music than the medium but it's really a lot about distribution on the practical level, about how music enters our lives.
	1:10pm Rich in Washington: I think the silliest example of vinyl fetishism gone too far might be the new Andy Kaufman 'album', composed of micro-cassette recordings he made. You can buy it as a digital download for 11 bucks or so, buy it on CD and then on 12" vinyl record for 20+ bucks. I'm not sure why you'd want it on vinyl over the other formats. The sound quality of micro-cassette?
	1:11pm Rich in Washington: There are other, more grievous examples. I just thought that one struck me as odd this week.
	1:11pm Tony Coulter: @ Jeremy: I suspect you're right that CDs will eventually become fetishized as well, as soon as people realize how much great music is only on CD -- and as soon as enough time passes for them to seem exotic.
	1:12pm Jim Pastor: when a media phases out, information is invariably lost....
	1:13pm Rich in Washington: I'm already fetishizing CDs. I like making CD jackets, sort of like the ones from Creel Pone CD-R releases. I am all ready for the CD resurgence.
	1:14pm Rich in Washington: the more that friends tell me that CDs are going bye-bye, the more I want to make them.
	🥁 1:14pm Rev. Turnip Druid: as a designer. CD packaging CAN be great. Just need to get people once & for all to NEVER AGAIN consider the jewel-case. It's too fragile to mail, and it has no soul.... lots of options with digipak design, though.
	🥁 1:14pm Snortley: Of course, CDs eventually delaminate, so any fetish would be some sort of audio necrophilia.
	1:15pm Jeremy N: I definitely fetishize my japanese soundtrack CDs, they have beautiful artwork and some very cool packaging.
	🥁 1:16pm Rev. Turnip Druid: I buy vinyl whenever possible & if there's a choice .. but so many DIY projects out there, CD is the only option, & gotta support the rebel factions. .. So the collection is slowly evolving into mostly limited & handmade things by local noisemakers & allies elsewhere. .. and that's a kick.
	🥁 1:16pm Rev. Turnip Druid: different kind of pkg fetishizing in that case: the short-run local obsessive-artist thing. I can get behind that.
	🥁 1:17pm listener james from westwood: rev., 100% of those cds my former roommate bought in freshman year were not only in jewel cases, but longboxes. horrifying.
	1:17pm Tony Coulter: imho, all media formats have their plusses and minuses -- and can sound good with the right mastering.
	1:19pm Carmichael: Tony & Jeremy: I've been running that ? title song through my cranium, and I keep getting an unknown Hollies song and Cleaners from Venus' Clara Bow.
	🥁 1:19pm Rev. Turnip Druid: hah! The longbox... talk about a vestigial organ... what a strange thing those were.
	1:21pm Jim Pastor: digging this Cup of Tea. Think I'll augment it with some Earl Grey
	1:21pm Tony Coulter: Ha! A song about fetishism.
	1:21pm Jim Pastor: iced
	1:27pm Uncle Michael: digipaks suck.I don't want analog cover wear on a digital storage format. At least with a broken jewel case I can replace it.
	1:30pm Jeremy N: I don't see why they can't all be like the japanese cardboard LP style sleeves. I'll accept some shelf wear.
	1:32pm DCE: nice melancholia tea brewing up here
	1:33pm Rich in Washington: I too like the LP-style CD sleeve. They can make shelf-reading somewhat daunting. I've been putting my self-made CDs in library card-catalog-style drawers and those CD boxes you can buy at Ikea.
	🥁 1:38pm Rev. Turnip Druid: digging the plain people for reasons I can't understand at this point...
	1:38pm Tony Coulter: Rob Murphy's real name is Rob Storey. He really should be better known than he is. Then again, he works hard at being obscure.
	🥁 1:40pm listener james from westwood: and now we know ... the REST of the storey!
	1:41pm Tony Coulter: He's the man behind Murphy No Geisha, Nobodies, Plain People of England -- and Orchestre Murphy, Murphy Federation, Miners of Banal ... and a bunch of others.
	1:42pm Grey & Pink: I believe in Japan they put out blu ray audio discs. I tried a couple and decided that they sounded no different to the normal. I mean can you imagine, what was I thinking buying Hawkwind's In search of space on bluray uncompressed audio discs. It sounded no different at all! Whats more for the price I payed I expected a miniture space log book that came with the original vinyl. Sadly there was no such thing.
	1:45pm Grey & Pink: a little more Kevin Ayers sounding this last set!
	1:45pm Rich in Washington: with all the stories of CDs circling the obsolescence drain, I am surprised there weren't more attempts in its long history to offer more content on CDs. Or have I missed something?
	1:47pm Grey & Pink: well lps were always around 30 mins long - not 75 mins of demos, outtakes and interviews etc!
	1:50pm Grey & Pink: what is the longest LP of all time?
	1:51pm Tony Coulter: Any one of those that end with a locked groove?
	1:52pm Grey & Pink: yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them, yeh I don't mean them,
	1:55pm Tony Coulter: I have a Heiner Goebbels LP that's around 60 minutes long.
	1:55pm Grey & Pink: probably the Grateful Dead Live, Europe 72 - the complete gigs - 450 hours worth of live dead! released in 2010.
	1:57pm Tony Coulter: re Goebbels: I'm talking a single LP.
	1:58pm Grey & Pink: and just to think, the dead are now releasing their live stuff on vinyl. Probably need a fork lift truck to get 450 hours worth of vinyl into you house!
	2:00pm Grey & Pink: probably candidate for the worst long lp - PIL - Metal box - 3 records of boring discordant dub!
	2:01pm Grey & Pink: saying that, I have never managed to get through the Nitty Gritty's Will the Circle be unbroken box set!
	2:02pm Rich in Washington: Even though it's one of my most cherished records from my youth, I nominate The Clash's Sandinista for 2nd - one disc of pretty OK-ish Clash songs with two discs of self-indulgent dross.
	2:04pm Grey & Pink: yeh I agree Rich - was'nt one side the failed recordings of the aborted trip to Jamaica to record at Lee Perry's Black Ark studio?
	2:05pm MrFab: "Metal Box" was only 2 disks. Probably the album I have listened to more than any other in my life. And, yep, "Sandinista" was my most-listened-to Clash album! So odd and unpredictable...
	2:05pm northguineahills: Sandinista is what converted me to a Clash fan, before that, i was still fighting my demons to accept pop music (this would have be '98)
	2:06pm Grey & Pink: look away now TC but I must admit to owning but never listening to the Art Bears box set - I think it was all the remixed stuff that put me off!
	2:10pm Grey & Pink: box sets/double discs I absolutely loved however - 1. Wattstax 2. The Band - Rock of Ages Over indulgent double albums in my bloated opinion:- 1. Hendrix - Ladyland 2.Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti 3. Yes - tales of topographical Ocean
	2:12pm northguineahills: *be=been
	2:14pm Tony Coulter: I'm still not a convert to Clash-ism. I do like PIL, though.
	2:16pm northguineahills: I do like pop music today, as I enjoyed the Plain People of England.
	2:20pm Grey & Pink: I think to like the Clash means buying into the whole punk philosophy - not Grey and Pink but Black and white!
	2:21pm northguineahills: Sandinista also had some nice dubisms that can draw you in.
	2:23pm Tony Coulter: Just playing the devil's advocate here -- and talking through my ass, as I don't actually own any of their albums -- but the Clash always seemed like fake corporate punks to me. But I will set that prejudice aside and give Sandinsta a try.
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: er, "Sandinista" -- damn butterfingers.
	2:26pm northguineahills: London Calling does have that fake corporate punk effect, but I still enjoy it. I didn't get it until after Sandinista.
	2:26pm Uncle Michael: Joe Strummer was a guy that wanted to be a rock and roll musician for a living. If that's fake punk, I'll forgive it. He had a pub rock band and then saw the writing on the wall with punk and went that way. I think the Clash made some pretty great records along the way.
	2:29pm DCE: digging this computer trip
	2:32pm MrFab: As a young teen, I looked to the Clash the way baby boomers did to Dylan. I don't know why, they were just a rock band. But they seemed a lot "realer" to me than, say Bruuuce, with his whole phony workin' man schtick.
	2:34pm Rich in Washington: I recently just played all the toss-off tracks from Sandinista on Grooveshark and I am still really sentimental about that album. It was the first punk/new wave record I ever got and it was an Xmas gift. Still have it, in fact.
	2:34pm northguineahills: mi tambien (sobre die trip computer die)
	2:35pm MrFab: Having said that, Tony, the Clash may sound utterly meaningless to you now, at this late date, and you past your impressionable teen years (tho I'm sure you still look mahvelous!).
	2:36pm Rich in Washington: I do agree, though, that they had this contrived rebel image, sort of like Bruce Springsteen's aw-shucks, small-town persona. But what did I know when I was 13 or whatever? I probably wouldn't have gotten involved in leftish politics had it not been for The Clash.
	2:36pm Rich in Washington: Love this, Tony! Great stuff!
	2:37pm northguineahills: I'll admit that I never heard the Clash until I was in college, in the mid-90s, but I didn't get into music until I was 16.
	2:38pm Uncle Michael: I suppose the Ckash don't hold up all that way to my jaded, middle aged cynicism either. That said....There's a Clash tune coming on Friday.
	2:39pm Rich in Washington: Recently picked up a copy of Mick Jones' other band Bad's Big Top Phoenix, which has lots of weird interstitial stuff that reminds me a lot of Sandinista. Kind of a bad (no pun intended) album with a few great moments.
	2:41pm Rich in Washington: @Uncle Michael: Do you do a show? Where/when?
	2:43pm Uncle Michael: I do one here...on Fridays. Noon eastern.
	2:44pm Uncle Michael: Wow, my previous comment betrays the hydrocodone I took this morning.
	2:47pm Tony Coulter: @ Rich: Michael has a new(ish) show here on the GTDR stream, called "Hinky Dinky Time." Fridays, noon to 3:00. It's fab!
	2:48pm Uncle Michael: Thank you, Tony.
	2:50pm Tony Coulter: Sorry I never get to listen live, btw. I'm almost alway working then. (Hence my absence from the live comments page.)
	2:52pm DCE: ngh, what did you do the first 15 years of your life?!
	2:55pm Joan: I'm a little behind here, but I always thought the Clash seemed a little canned, not really punks at all. I saw them in Hyde Park in the Summer of 86, after I'd smoked some dope wiht some Rastas there. Barely remember it. I think it would be hard for any artist to fill 2 records with truly good stuff all the way through--not a comp., but music made at that time.
	2:56pm Tony Coulter: This Die Trip Computer Die disc ain't going to be finished by the top of the hour, despite my efforts to keep my mic breaks short. I'm going to play the whole thing, though -- which means running over around 8 minutes or so. Stick around!
	2:56pm Uncle Michael: Good! Great stuff!
	2:57pm Tony Coulter: Hey, Joan!!
	2:58pm Joan: Hey Tony! I'm sticking around.
	2:58pm DCE: I'll stick around for this, yes
	2:58pm northguineahills: I read books non-stop and played soccer. I must have got kicked in the head when I was 16.
	2:59pm DCE: certainly worth pasttimes as well, ngh!
	🥁 3:00pm listener james from westwood: i'm in my barrel and heading for the falls!
	3:07pm Uncle Michael: Thanks for the show, Tony.
	🥁 3:07pm listener james from westwood: many thanks, tony! good tuesday, all!
	3:07pm Tony Coulter: See you everybody!!

Tony Coulter: Playlist from July 23, 2013

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