WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 11, 2018

Listener comments!
	6:01pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all!
	6:01pm Rich in Washington: Hello, Techtonicites!
	6:01pm Warren in Australia: All ears.
	6:03pm Buffalo's Tom: Hello, everyone!
	6:03pm melinda: Howdy Techtons
	6:04pm dale: i'm having a gin and techtonic as we speak.
	6:04pm ultradamno: Panicky Scooters, would be a good band name.
	6:05pm Jeff Moore: Fuck you, douchebag scooter.
	6:05pm dale: i'd call a johnnycab instead.
	6:06pm Carmichael: I would astral project instead.
	6:06pm ultradamno: Would you get charged with scooter molesting?
	6:06pm Michael 98145: Scooter Anxiety Disorder
	6:07pm Carmichael: What if you're just sniffing?
	6:07pm dale: www.youtube.com...
	6:07pm Rich in Washington: there was just a story up here in the Portland area about those scooter companies coming up here, with condo-commandos being able to dump the scooters willy nilly. I wonder if the voice thing is also to deter people from picking them up and dumping them in the streets, as I have heard people say they will do if they, like in SF, find them blocking doors, etc.
	6:09pm Jeff Moore: Fuck you, douchebag comically large Reese's coffee cup wielding telecom shill.
	🤖 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: Happy Techtonicities, all!
	6:09pm Jeff Moore: "Shared"
	6:11pm northguineahills: Gamera! Gamera! Gamera is really neat! Gamera is filled with meat! We've been eating Gamera!
	6:12pm matt: twitter, facebook, tumblr, Instagram and linkedin are all bored (and boring) white people?
	6:12pm northguineahills: (apropos of nothing)
	6:13pm northguineahills: Leaving work at a sane hour, catcha near the end at home!
	6:14pm melinda: @Jeff I like your style
	6:16pm ultradamno: I don't know but if it still does it but Comcast/Xfinity's Twitter-bot was real aggressive about claiming the company was in favor of net neutrality (including contradicting posts pointing out the lie of it) while they lobbied against it.
	6:18pm melinda: The creepy factor is huge, I draw the line there.
	6:18pm Jeff Moore: "What are you doing to do with yours?" I've never had one, because they're an obviously bad idea.
	6:19pm geezerette: Sales resistance is a valuable skill.
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: Those Alexa devices, ugh. the wnyc people often say "tell yr speaker ..." to preface an ad. Not ad, product placement.
	6:21pm listener james from westwood: ngh bringing the mst!
	6:21pm Johnzon: Listening to the show on the bus Heading back to Detroit from a protest in Lansing https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/
	6:21pm Buffalo's Tom: I'm not yet that lazy wherein I need to be able to bark orders at an ever-listening presence to get through the day.
	6:22pm ultradamno: Bluetooth speakers like Riva is as close as I get. The appeal of asking a virtual personality to basically search google for me mystifies me.
	6:23pm geezerette: Teach your children to read paper maps. It's empowering and fun.
	6:25pm WebHamster Henry: Are others hearing the left channel? I’m not.
	6:25pm Rich in Washington: I hear both channels.
	6:26pm Rich in Washington: I'm listening on a mixer with a pan pot and it sounds about equal in both channels.
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone! Thanks for the comments. WHHenry, I hear both channels here in the studio.
	6:28pm Rich in Washington: one of the fun things about texting people in the same room, party, event, etc., is you can talk in a manner where whispering would be necessary, but polite.
	6:29pm Rich in Washington: impolite, I meant.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Eye contact, vocal tone, gesturing, little things like that
	6:29pm melinda: Texting people in the same room is weird.
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: Rich - to be provocative - how did people manage to navigate dicey social situations for 1000s of years before texting?
	6:32pm Tommy in Neversink: NO ..it IS dehumanizing to be texting with your girlfriend in the same room..in fact , it's bizarre
	6:32pm geezerette: @Ultradamno: Exactly, all the natural ways in which we've evolved to "read" each other.
	6:32pm Michael 98145: sort of like passing notes in class. in an empty classroom.
	🤖 6:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: ImI just going to wait for the chip they plant in your brain. Not going to sit there barking out orders to a speaker like a sucker!
	6:34pm geezerette: Comply or leave.
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Frischmann's book makes a strong case that doing these little things, "what does it matter?" over time normalizes the behavior of just doing whatever the tech cos want.
	6:35pm Michael 98145: i used to feel weird on the bus to -not- be staring at my phone screen
	6:36pm Johnzon: I'm with you Ken...
	6:37pm Rich in Washington: MH: For some reason, I am picturing European aristocrats using their folding fans to cover their mouths as they make fun of their host, guests, etc.
	6:37pm Jeff Moore: When you discuss Terms and Conditions (accepting thereof without reading) it's impossible not to think of the South Park HumancentiPad episode: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:37pm geezerette: Anyone else remember H.G. Wells "The Time Machine"? The fate of people in the future? Their total, thoughtless passivity? They were actually cattle.
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: Yes - and with monocles!
	6:38pm Rich in Washington: I've been, as an exercise, NOT staring at my phone when in a public place, business, etc., while waiting for something. It's really weird. I imagine people wonder why I am staring off into space, acknowledging people's presence, etc.
	6:39pm Michael 98145: @gz'ette, and they were tasty!
	6:40pm geezerette: ha! Michael!
	6:41pm Michael 98145: sadly, my career choice has led me to identify with the Morlocks
	6:42pm melinda: I can sort of see texting as a way to avoid being heard, but the person in question here didn't offer that as an explanation, they didn't really know why they were doing it.
	6:42pm Dr. Peter: Great interview
	6:43pm geezerette: Most of us would, if they knew what those were.
	6:43pm ultradamno: I would like to propose supermarkets become a tech free zone. When you are in the dairy aisle, buy some cheese or move on, stop milling about staring at your devices, I have things to do!
	6:43pm JakeGould: A good name for a hair salon near a college campus would be “Terms and Conditioners.” Just increased the noise ratio! rimshot drunk shouting me down in the back howls howls homeless person shouting howls
	6:43pm Buffalo's Tom: I love the BBC for those reasons among others.
	6:44pm listener james from westwood: Amazing DIY WFMU-related constructions: • Archives • Free Music Archive • Playlists & message board • Mobile app • Audience Engine • Irwin's triple-walled environment tank
	6:45pm Michael 98145: what listener james just said
	6:46pm Phil with the phone: @JakeGould What about Perms and Conditioners
	6:46pm JakeGould: @Phil: COLLEGES HAVE TERMS!!!
	6:47pm geezerette: My worst fear concerning today's topic is that imagination is beginning to atrophy, by design.
	6:47pm chris: hi, Mark and folks. great thought provoking questions tonight.
	6:48pm JakeGould: @geezerette: But aha! There is the rub… The one thing all pundits agree on is abstract thought and ideas will be more and more valued even with AI. So there you go.
	6:48pm Listener John from NJ: NOTE RE: Cellphone use:"Ten percent of people admit to checking their phones during sex, according to a study released from SureCall, a manufacturer of cellular signal boosters." www.wxyz.com...
	6:48pm JakeGould: @ListenerJamesFromWestwood: What about Daddy Garbage’s lava lamp collection?
	6:49pm chris: being human is much of the time in conflict with technology. where humans are explicitly imperfect, technology is usually desired to be the opposite. however, i would hate to live in a world where tech didn't exist to let us know what Hawkins was thinking.
	6:49pm hoeg: Hi Mark and people, podcast listener checking in live for a change. I use my sansa clip, it makes sound and doesn't distract me with anything else ;-)
	6:49pm listener james from westwood: Chip shmip. Anyone who's encountered some semi-literate MAGA-chud friend of a friend bloviating on your FB posts knows the unmoderated brain-to-FB connection is already working at damn near supralight speed.
	6:49pm Michael 98145: PK Dick was a prophet
	6:49pm geezerette: Ha ha ha! @Mark! :D
	6:50pm chris: as is your neighbor to the north, Bill Gibson, Michael.
	6:50pm Johnzon: socialism. A homeless man once described a socialist to me as someone who wants what is best for the largest number of people. I'm not talking about the various versions of socialism that have failed or succeeded to varying degrees in the past, but a democratic modern version designed by and for the people. Put technology to work for all people, not the few. We can avert ecological disaster and lift our species out of poverty etc. but it will take a revolution because those in power, who control the technology, will not give up their power easily.
	6:51pm melinda: I like being the weird one staring into space.
	6:51pm JakeGould: Here is anecdote about the NYC subway… I wanted to watch a TV show on my iPhone but had no headphones. I looked around and realized the subway car was mostly empty and most people had headphones on… SO IF I JUST PLAYED THE TV SHOW THROUGH THE SPEAKER WHO CARES THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD!!!
	6:51pm geezerette: @Jake, by the minority, I fear.
	6:51pm Buffalo's Tom: Hey Mark, have you ever looked into Off the Hook on WBAI yet? I think someone mentioned it here before and I concur it's really good. And their (2600's) fun conference in NYC is next month!
	6:52pm Michael 98145: our post-scarcity world appears to be intent on squeezing all wealth to the top.
	6:52pm Tommy in Neversink: I don't don't have an internet phone..just basic cell
	6:52pm Rich in Washington: We need to usher boredom back into our lives, if even for a moment. Boredom has made me do some of the best, craziest stuff ever. I think boredom is essential to creativity.
	6:52pm common: look at a tree!
	6:53pm melinda: You do become aware of how unaware everyone else is.
	6:53pm WebHamster Henry: I’m a dedicated cloud watcher!
	6:53pm chris: here, here, Rich!
	6:53pm Tommy in Neversink: WOW.. I got an on air read
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: @Melinda: aliens would have no trouble invading us. No one would notice it happening.
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: or maybe it already happened...
	6:54pm Michael 98145: we are Borg
	6:55pm Guido from Cologne: I'm considering getting back to paper maps.
	6:55pm Warren in Australia: Avoid tech neck
	6:55pm chris: have i shared this story: google maps has my address wrong (wrong city, even), so i wrote them to tell them this, and they responded they were right. hahahahhaaha!
	6:55pm Tome: ..... they smell better
	6:55pm northguineahills: I can't stick to looking at my phone in public. I'm a space cadet, my head is in the clouds, I also have no idea what's going around me. (although I make a mental photo (and recording) of my surroundings in my brain every few minutes.) cartographer here, I have plenty of paper maps....
	6:56pm Buffalo's Tom: Rich, in talking to some of my co-workers lately I think it might be the latter.
	6:56pm JakeGould: There was some study about Venmo and how it has ruined sharing meals. Because venmo does exact math, instead of people saying, “Just give me $10 and we’re good.” But Venmo will do EXACT MATH so it’s an IOU like, “Please pay me $12.67.”
	6:56pm Tommy in Neversink: Aliens would probably have advanced texting abilities and could takeover all texting posing as the government and tell everybody those aren't aliens they are seeing
	6:56pm ultradamno: Are Siri users just people who grew up with a fantasy of having a little robot buddy like in Lost In Space?
	6:56pm L. Maybud: Yes, please do a show about mapping data!
	6:57pm WebHamster Henry: I like Google Earth- mostly to visit deserts and Siberian coastlines.
	6:57pm northguineahills: Most Google Maps data is created via shareware, most is created from volunteers who fill in the details around the world.
	6:57pm Rich in Washington: Is it like Czech neck, which you get from doing the made-up drug Cake (Chris Morris fans will get it).
	6:57pm Buffalo's Tom: I love Jeff Hackworthy's You Might Be a Techneck bit.
	6:57pm chris: without looking at trees, Martin Buber would not have written, I and Thou.
	6:58pm Tommy in Neversink: I love Google man on the street ....sorry
	6:58pm Rich in Washington: Thanks, Mark! my synapses just doubled!
	6:58pm northguineahills: I've been to every square inch of Google Earth. I pretty much have half of it memorized.
	6:58pm listener james from westwood: I MISS LIZ BERG!
	6:58pm northguineahills: I never use GPS. I already have the maps memorized.
	6:59pm chris: RDP!!!!
	6:59pm northguineahills: what james said...
	6:59pm Michael 98145: i found this world thanks to Liz B podcasts
	6:59pm ultradamno: Thirllwel!
	7:00pm chris: bleep bloop, Mark and all.
	7:01pm Michael 98145: does anyone know why it's "hang up" ...? heh :)
	7:02pm WebHamster Henry: Update: my earbuds are busted
	7:02pm WebHamster Henry: Hear you next week, maybe in stereo.
	7:03pm Michael 98145: danged technology

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 11, 2018

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June 11, 2018: Brett Frischmann, co-author, "Re-Engineering Humanity"

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This week: Brett Frischmann, co-author (with Evan Selinger) of the new book Re-Engineering Humanity.

Pointers to Brett's work:

• @BrettFrischmann on Twitter

• Brett's page at Villanova, where he is professor in law, business, and economics

• Book site for Re-Engineering Humanity - also on Indiebound

Recent tech news:

• "I'll call the police," say new techie scooters in Oakland if you touch them without paying.

• Net neutrality expired today (good explainer from WaPo)

• "Zuckerberg lied to Congress," says David Carroll, professor at Parsons. My suggestion is that we just charge them the $3.4 trillion they owe for violating the consent decree (see Jason Kint's calculation), liquidate the company, and use the proceeds to build a citizen-owned, non-addictive, democracy-respectful social network."

• Speaking of which, project I need to look into: Platform.coop, supporting platform co-ops.

• Big Tech's re-engineering of humanity is not inevitable. So don't give up. Mar Hicks writes, "Technofatalism isn't logical; it's a highly destructive failure of imagination & unwillingness to resist the status quo. It's the sullen twin of technophilia. Both assume tech can & will determine society. It's not that simple. We have a fighting chance. But we have to fight."

• Brilliant, spot-on video about Facebook from The Daily Show, imagining Facebook as a bar.

• Venture capitalist Fred Wilson has unplugged his Alexa. "If anyone in our house is uncomfortable with devices listening to our conversations, I don’t want to subject them to that. . . This raises a broader question about these voice devices which is whether the value they offer outweighs the creepiness they create in the home. For us, the answer has been a resounding no."

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Artist	Track	Album	Comments	Approx. start time
Turning humans into robots: Brett Frischmann, talks about his new book "Re-Engineering Humanity," co-authored with Evan Selinger.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with Brett Frischmann "Interview with Brett Frischmann"			0:15:49 (Pop-up)
	Your calls and comments 201-209-9368 "Your calls and comments 201-209-9368"			0:38:58 (Pop-up)
Xordox	Diamonds "Diamonds" by "Xordox"	Neospection	this song on bandcamp	0:54:22 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:01pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all!
	6:01pm Rich in Washington: Hello, Techtonicites!
	6:01pm Warren in Australia: All ears.
	6:03pm Buffalo's Tom: Hello, everyone!
	6:03pm melinda: Howdy Techtons
	6:04pm dale: i'm having a gin and techtonic as we speak.
	6:04pm ultradamno: Panicky Scooters, would be a good band name.
	6:05pm Jeff Moore: Fuck you, douchebag scooter.
	6:05pm dale: i'd call a johnnycab instead.
	6:06pm Carmichael: I would astral project instead.
	6:06pm ultradamno: Would you get charged with scooter molesting?
	6:06pm Michael 98145: Scooter Anxiety Disorder
	6:07pm Carmichael: What if you're just sniffing?
	6:07pm dale: www.youtube.com...
	6:07pm Rich in Washington: there was just a story up here in the Portland area about those scooter companies coming up here, with condo-commandos being able to dump the scooters willy nilly. I wonder if the voice thing is also to deter people from picking them up and dumping them in the streets, as I have heard people say they will do if they, like in SF, find them blocking doors, etc.
	6:09pm Jeff Moore: Fuck you, douchebag comically large Reese's coffee cup wielding telecom shill.
	🤖 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: Happy Techtonicities, all!
	6:09pm Jeff Moore: "Shared"
	6:11pm northguineahills: Gamera! Gamera! Gamera is really neat! Gamera is filled with meat! We've been eating Gamera!
	6:12pm matt: twitter, facebook, tumblr, Instagram and linkedin are all bored (and boring) white people?
	6:12pm northguineahills: (apropos of nothing)
	6:13pm northguineahills: Leaving work at a sane hour, catcha near the end at home!
	6:14pm melinda: @Jeff I like your style
	6:16pm ultradamno: I don't know but if it still does it but Comcast/Xfinity's Twitter-bot was real aggressive about claiming the company was in favor of net neutrality (including contradicting posts pointing out the lie of it) while they lobbied against it.
	6:18pm melinda: The creepy factor is huge, I draw the line there.
	6:18pm Jeff Moore: "What are you doing to do with yours?" I've never had one, because they're an obviously bad idea.
	6:19pm geezerette: Sales resistance is a valuable skill.
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: Those Alexa devices, ugh. the wnyc people often say "tell yr speaker ..." to preface an ad. Not ad, product placement.
	6:21pm listener james from westwood: ngh bringing the mst!
	6:21pm Johnzon: Listening to the show on the bus Heading back to Detroit from a protest in Lansing https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/
	6:21pm Buffalo's Tom: I'm not yet that lazy wherein I need to be able to bark orders at an ever-listening presence to get through the day.
	6:22pm ultradamno: Bluetooth speakers like Riva is as close as I get. The appeal of asking a virtual personality to basically search google for me mystifies me.
	6:23pm geezerette: Teach your children to read paper maps. It's empowering and fun.
	6:25pm WebHamster Henry: Are others hearing the left channel? I’m not.
	6:25pm Rich in Washington: I hear both channels.
	6:26pm Rich in Washington: I'm listening on a mixer with a pan pot and it sounds about equal in both channels.
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone! Thanks for the comments. WHHenry, I hear both channels here in the studio.
	6:28pm Rich in Washington: one of the fun things about texting people in the same room, party, event, etc., is you can talk in a manner where whispering would be necessary, but polite.
	6:29pm Rich in Washington: impolite, I meant.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Eye contact, vocal tone, gesturing, little things like that
	6:29pm melinda: Texting people in the same room is weird.
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: Rich - to be provocative - how did people manage to navigate dicey social situations for 1000s of years before texting?
	6:32pm Tommy in Neversink: NO ..it IS dehumanizing to be texting with your girlfriend in the same room..in fact , it's bizarre
	6:32pm geezerette: @Ultradamno: Exactly, all the natural ways in which we've evolved to "read" each other.
	6:32pm Michael 98145: sort of like passing notes in class. in an empty classroom.
	🤖 6:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: ImI just going to wait for the chip they plant in your brain. Not going to sit there barking out orders to a speaker like a sucker!
	6:34pm geezerette: Comply or leave.
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Frischmann's book makes a strong case that doing these little things, "what does it matter?" over time normalizes the behavior of just doing whatever the tech cos want.
	6:35pm Michael 98145: i used to feel weird on the bus to -not- be staring at my phone screen
	6:36pm Johnzon: I'm with you Ken...
	6:37pm Rich in Washington: MH: For some reason, I am picturing European aristocrats using their folding fans to cover their mouths as they make fun of their host, guests, etc.
	6:37pm Jeff Moore: When you discuss Terms and Conditions (accepting thereof without reading) it's impossible not to think of the South Park HumancentiPad episode: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:37pm geezerette: Anyone else remember H.G. Wells "The Time Machine"? The fate of people in the future? Their total, thoughtless passivity? They were actually cattle.
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: Yes - and with monocles!
	6:38pm Rich in Washington: I've been, as an exercise, NOT staring at my phone when in a public place, business, etc., while waiting for something. It's really weird. I imagine people wonder why I am staring off into space, acknowledging people's presence, etc.
	6:39pm Michael 98145: @gz'ette, and they were tasty!
	6:40pm geezerette: ha! Michael!
	6:41pm Michael 98145: sadly, my career choice has led me to identify with the Morlocks
	6:42pm melinda: I can sort of see texting as a way to avoid being heard, but the person in question here didn't offer that as an explanation, they didn't really know why they were doing it.
	6:42pm Dr. Peter: Great interview
	6:43pm geezerette: Most of us would, if they knew what those were.
	6:43pm ultradamno: I would like to propose supermarkets become a tech free zone. When you are in the dairy aisle, buy some cheese or move on, stop milling about staring at your devices, I have things to do!
	6:43pm JakeGould: A good name for a hair salon near a college campus would be “Terms and Conditioners.” Just increased the noise ratio! rimshot drunk shouting me down in the back howls howls homeless person shouting howls
	6:43pm Buffalo's Tom: I love the BBC for those reasons among others.
	6:44pm listener james from westwood: Amazing DIY WFMU-related constructions: • Archives • Free Music Archive • Playlists & message board • Mobile app • Audience Engine • Irwin's triple-walled environment tank
	6:45pm Michael 98145: what listener james just said
	6:46pm Phil with the phone: @JakeGould What about Perms and Conditioners
	6:46pm JakeGould: @Phil: COLLEGES HAVE TERMS!!!
	6:47pm geezerette: My worst fear concerning today's topic is that imagination is beginning to atrophy, by design.
	6:47pm chris: hi, Mark and folks. great thought provoking questions tonight.
	6:48pm JakeGould: @geezerette: But aha! There is the rub… The one thing all pundits agree on is abstract thought and ideas will be more and more valued even with AI. So there you go.
	6:48pm Listener John from NJ: NOTE RE: Cellphone use:"Ten percent of people admit to checking their phones during sex, according to a study released from SureCall, a manufacturer of cellular signal boosters." www.wxyz.com...
	6:48pm JakeGould: @ListenerJamesFromWestwood: What about Daddy Garbage’s lava lamp collection?
	6:49pm chris: being human is much of the time in conflict with technology. where humans are explicitly imperfect, technology is usually desired to be the opposite. however, i would hate to live in a world where tech didn't exist to let us know what Hawkins was thinking.
	6:49pm hoeg: Hi Mark and people, podcast listener checking in live for a change. I use my sansa clip, it makes sound and doesn't distract me with anything else ;-)
	6:49pm listener james from westwood: Chip shmip. Anyone who's encountered some semi-literate MAGA-chud friend of a friend bloviating on your FB posts knows the unmoderated brain-to-FB connection is already working at damn near supralight speed.
	6:49pm Michael 98145: PK Dick was a prophet
	6:49pm geezerette: Ha ha ha! @Mark! :D
	6:50pm chris: as is your neighbor to the north, Bill Gibson, Michael.
	6:50pm Johnzon: socialism. A homeless man once described a socialist to me as someone who wants what is best for the largest number of people. I'm not talking about the various versions of socialism that have failed or succeeded to varying degrees in the past, but a democratic modern version designed by and for the people. Put technology to work for all people, not the few. We can avert ecological disaster and lift our species out of poverty etc. but it will take a revolution because those in power, who control the technology, will not give up their power easily.
	6:51pm melinda: I like being the weird one staring into space.
	6:51pm JakeGould: Here is anecdote about the NYC subway… I wanted to watch a TV show on my iPhone but had no headphones. I looked around and realized the subway car was mostly empty and most people had headphones on… SO IF I JUST PLAYED THE TV SHOW THROUGH THE SPEAKER WHO CARES THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD!!!
	6:51pm geezerette: @Jake, by the minority, I fear.
	6:51pm Buffalo's Tom: Hey Mark, have you ever looked into Off the Hook on WBAI yet? I think someone mentioned it here before and I concur it's really good. And their (2600's) fun conference in NYC is next month!
	6:52pm Michael 98145: our post-scarcity world appears to be intent on squeezing all wealth to the top.
	6:52pm Tommy in Neversink: I don't don't have an internet phone..just basic cell
	6:52pm Rich in Washington: We need to usher boredom back into our lives, if even for a moment. Boredom has made me do some of the best, craziest stuff ever. I think boredom is essential to creativity.
	6:52pm common: look at a tree!
	6:53pm melinda: You do become aware of how unaware everyone else is.
	6:53pm WebHamster Henry: I’m a dedicated cloud watcher!
	6:53pm chris: here, here, Rich!
	6:53pm Tommy in Neversink: WOW.. I got an on air read
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: @Melinda: aliens would have no trouble invading us. No one would notice it happening.
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: or maybe it already happened...
	6:54pm Michael 98145: we are Borg
	6:55pm Guido from Cologne: I'm considering getting back to paper maps.
	6:55pm Warren in Australia: Avoid tech neck
	6:55pm chris: have i shared this story: google maps has my address wrong (wrong city, even), so i wrote them to tell them this, and they responded they were right. hahahahhaaha!
	6:55pm Tome: ..... they smell better
	6:55pm northguineahills: I can't stick to looking at my phone in public. I'm a space cadet, my head is in the clouds, I also have no idea what's going around me. (although I make a mental photo (and recording) of my surroundings in my brain every few minutes.) cartographer here, I have plenty of paper maps....
	6:56pm Buffalo's Tom: Rich, in talking to some of my co-workers lately I think it might be the latter.
	6:56pm JakeGould: There was some study about Venmo and how it has ruined sharing meals. Because venmo does exact math, instead of people saying, “Just give me $10 and we’re good.” But Venmo will do EXACT MATH so it’s an IOU like, “Please pay me $12.67.”
	6:56pm Tommy in Neversink: Aliens would probably have advanced texting abilities and could takeover all texting posing as the government and tell everybody those aren't aliens they are seeing
	6:56pm ultradamno: Are Siri users just people who grew up with a fantasy of having a little robot buddy like in Lost In Space?
	6:56pm L. Maybud: Yes, please do a show about mapping data!
	6:57pm WebHamster Henry: I like Google Earth- mostly to visit deserts and Siberian coastlines.
	6:57pm northguineahills: Most Google Maps data is created via shareware, most is created from volunteers who fill in the details around the world.
	6:57pm Rich in Washington: Is it like Czech neck, which you get from doing the made-up drug Cake (Chris Morris fans will get it).
	6:57pm Buffalo's Tom: I love Jeff Hackworthy's You Might Be a Techneck bit.
	6:57pm chris: without looking at trees, Martin Buber would not have written, I and Thou.
	6:58pm Tommy in Neversink: I love Google man on the street ....sorry
	6:58pm Rich in Washington: Thanks, Mark! my synapses just doubled!
	6:58pm northguineahills: I've been to every square inch of Google Earth. I pretty much have half of it memorized.
	6:58pm listener james from westwood: I MISS LIZ BERG!
	6:58pm northguineahills: I never use GPS. I already have the maps memorized.
	6:59pm chris: RDP!!!!
	6:59pm northguineahills: what james said...
	6:59pm Michael 98145: i found this world thanks to Liz B podcasts
	6:59pm ultradamno: Thirllwel!
	7:00pm chris: bleep bloop, Mark and all.
	7:01pm Michael 98145: does anyone know why it's "hang up" ...? heh :)
	7:02pm WebHamster Henry: Update: my earbuds are busted
	7:02pm WebHamster Henry: Hear you next week, maybe in stereo.
	7:03pm Michael 98145: danged technology

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 11, 2018

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