WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 6, 2018

Listener comments!
	6:01pm ultradamno: Hello Mark, Teching Crew.
	6:01pm geezerette: Hay! I'm melting like American Cheese-food slices on a burger.
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Mark! Matt! All!
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark, Matt, and other tech-news Gospel-slingers!
	6:04pm queems: hey mark & matt ww
	6:04pm melinda: Hi everyone
	🤖 6:04pm herb.nyc: hi hi, I see the list of apps on the homepage. (1) I just cancelled my MoviePiss, even tho it's still not a bad deal. friend did too, and he got Sinemia. (2) I used to send vidlets to station mgr ken, tho he told me he no longer uses.
	6:04pm judy from croton: Listening as always
	6:05pm geezerette: Hi Bas! Ultra! L James! ...those in near future...
	🤖 6:06pm herb.nyc: trillion, with a t! wnyc said that US STEEL had a higher % of gdp, back in the day, 6%.. apple is 5%.
	6:06pm Roland from Australia: Looking forward to today’s episode
	6:06pm northguineahills: Be Evol..... (SY did it first).
	🤖 6:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: This week: Garbage Tech!
	6:06pm Fredericks: Tech meets Garbage and..........
	6:06pm dale: trump properties? putin inc.?
	6:07pm northguineahills: hola, Roland, buenas dias!!!
	6:07pm Fredericks: Too soon, Ken!
	6:07pm geezerette: ...and super recent past...
	6:07pm Beast of Boonton: Did Matt Warwick get his identity stolen? Another WFMU DJ said so recently
	6:07pm northguineahills: jejejeje, Ken!
	🤖 6:07pm Bas NL: Outweighs WFMU?
	6:08pm Greg from ZONE 5: Oi Mark!
	6:08pm Sean d: Hey Garbagae man!
	6:09pm queems: google maps is my life, i’m sorry
	6:10pm melinda: I'm addicted to google street view
	🤖 6:11pm Bas NL: I met a Google Earth camera car a couple of times last week.. i hope i turn up everywhere...
	6:11pm Beast of Boonton: Felder
	🤖 6:11pm Ken From Hyde Park: Little Matty Gherkin!
	6:11pm Robert Tables: I use an offline map app called "maps.me" and it's based on OpenStreetMap.
	6:11pm northguineahills: I don't use google maps on my phone, but I use google earth pro for work, (and from work, I memorize all maps I'll need for my journeys, the same I do w/ paper maps. I said maps twice, I must like maps [obvious])
	🤖 6:12pm herb.nyc: re google street view - for my parent's home, my dad had a pair of socks being airdried on the door. well, there be the socks in the photo.
	6:12pm melinda: I still like paper maps
	6:13pm Robert Tables: Supposedly you can request Google to blur your house in street view.
	🤖 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Banish Google Maps to Null Island!
	6:13pm Linda Lee: here's my issue with virtual right here. so easy. sorry, BoCoCa?
	6:13pm queems: i use paper maps for mapping all of my long walks
	6:14pm melinda: I've seen a few blurred houses
	6:14pm northguineahills: Most of Third World maps in google maps are done by volunteers in said locations (ie: South/SE Asia I know from cartography subreddits personally).
	6:14pm Linda Lee: i remember when we laughed at TriBeCa ~ but at least it wasn't a typo!
	6:15pm Dan: The terminal's still "Atlantic Avenue / Pacific Street"
	6:15pm ultradamno: Gumbo? Going under Manh...etc?
	6:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...next thing you know - the Pope will set the Calendar...
	6:15pm JakeGould: I lived in Boerum Hill when some marketing “guru” came up with the BoCoCa moniker. Now the neighborhood is extremely gentrified.
	🤖 6:15pm Bas NL: Personalty i love to be lost and ask for directions in the street. It's THE fun of travel.
	6:15pm melinda: @herb that's funny
	6:15pm Linda Lee: neighborhood names have history. remove place names, nullify & suppress history.
	6:16pm Linda Lee: who issues the names, holds the power.
	🤖 6:16pm herb.nyc: google is our new taskwabbit.
	6:16pm northguineahills: Google is involved in psychogeography manipulation.
	6:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ' The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history. ' - GeorgeOrwell...according to the interwebz...
	6:17pm Linda Lee: that's right Rev. remember MiniTruth?
	6:17pm northguineahills: @Rev Rabbit: today's GOP.
	6:18pm Beast of Boonton: goo-goo do poopy pants?
	6:18pm melinda: Creepy
	6:18pm Michael 98145: @RRn63, our growing ignorance of history is leading to our own obliteration.
	6:19pm Linda Lee: probably not 'destroy people' but 'destroy a people' ..
	6:20pm dale: do a duet of some kansas lyrics over sabbath
	6:20pm queems: the most contagious laugh award goes to
	6:20pm seth from muddy creek: Garbage Tech! Please: potato cannons & Aquanet flame throwers first.
	6:21pm Linda Lee: Matt's a youngster. 'tech forward' goes with the generational territory.
	6:21pm Linda Lee: pretty ingenious tracking strategy.
	6:21pm slugluv1313: @ Linda Lee -- right?!! re: TriBeCa when i was first venturing into NYC in the late 1970s -- i would break out my trusty Hagstrom maps and subway maps and write down directions if i had to (oh sure i was just some dumb kid from NJ -- but even i knew better than to break out a map while on the subway!) NOW i see all these young-uns (especially on "party" nights in Hoboken and NYC) and they all have "smart" phones, GPS, etc., and they STILL cannot find where they parked their car(s) hah!
	6:22pm JakeGould: Most modern neighborhood names were concocted by real estate agents for marketing purposes. So I don’t respect that “history.” Cobble Hill is a name created in the 1950s for gentrification purposes. The name Boreum Hill was coined in 1964 for similar purposes. Carroll Gardens might have history but it became pushed heavily after the BQE split the neighborhood. Don’t fall for fake history. At least in NYC.
	6:22pm JakeGould: Anyway, Matt was the first to show me that “Is It a Hot Dog?” app and it’s amazing. And so is Matt!
	6:23pm Linda Lee: @slugluv ~ that's funny. first time i saw the name 'TriBeCa' was on a paper neighborhood map.
	6:23pm Jeff Moore: Okay, Mark – your discussion of that community filled all the Google / Nest current and future sensors and IoT devices reminds me to ask you: are you (I hope!) familiar with Ray Bradbury's perfect and prescient short story "The Murderer"? Bradbury had this world we live in and are diving deeper into pegged – in 1953! en.wikipedia.org...
	6:26pm Linda Lee: it's all history, Jake. seeing how this has been done over time under the aegis of development, and when, informs your knowledge of development. not a bad thing.
	6:26pm Jeff Moore: "I'm here to help you," said the psychiatrist, frowning. Something was wrong with the room. He had hesitated the moment he entered. He glanced around. The prisoner laughed. "If you're wondering why it's so quiet in here, I just kicked the radio to death." Violent, thought the doctor. The prisoner read this thought, smiled, put out a gentle hand. "No, only to machines that yak-yak-yak." Bits of the wall radio's tubes and wires lay on the gray carpeting. Ignoring these, feeling that smile upon him like a heat lamp, the psychiatrist sat across from his patient in the unusual silence which was like the gathering of a storm. "You're Mr. Albert Brock, who calls himself The Murderer?" Brock nodded pleasantly. "Before we start . . ." He moved quietly and quickly to detach the wrist radio from the doctor's arm. He tucked it in his teeth like a walnut, gritted, heard it crack, handed it back to the appalled psychiatrist as if he had done them both a favor. "That's better."
	6:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.facebook.com...
	6:27pm Beast of Boonton: So, Matt is NOT a vertical video type?
	6:27pm dale: this reminds me of the movie nightcrawler
	6:27pm queems: it’s a creepy movie
	6:27pm Linda Lee: gee .. another ingenious tracking strategy! at least this one's paid, though.
	6:28pm JakeGould: @Jeff One of the homeless guys in my neighborhood destroys air conditioners for metals inside. Such murdering.
	6:28pm dale: WOW! really creepy dude creates accidents and murders to photograph to sell. jake gylenhall?
	6:28pm JakeGould: this reminds me of the movie nightcrawler
	6:28pm Linda Lee: might as well get paid for your own commodification.
	6:29pm Linda Lee: who was it who said, if there's no fee, you're the product?
	6:29pm JakeGould: What about the poor baby they found in the east river? Was there a Stringer call for that?
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: How lucky was WeeGee anyway?
	6:29pm Gnat: I stepped away for a second, what was the photo taking app Matt is talking about??
	6:30pm Jeff Moore: "Mr. Brock, may I suggest that so far your whole pattern here is not very- practical? If you didn't like transit radios or office radios or car business radios, why didn't you join a fraternity of radio haters, start petitions, get legal and constitutional rulings? After all, this is a democracy." "And I," said Brock, "am that thing best called a minority. I did join fraternities, picket, pass petitions, take it to court. Year after year I protested. Everyone laughed. Everyone else loved bus radios and commercials. I was out of step." "Then you should have taken it like a good soldier, don't you think? The majority rules." "But they went too far. If a little music and 'keeping in touch' was charming, they figured a lot would be ten times as charming. I went wild! I got home to find my wife hysterical. Why? Because she had been completely out of touch with me for half a day. Remember, I did a dance on my wrist radio? Well, that night I laid plans to murder my house." www.sediment.uni-goettingen.de...
	6:30pm Linda Lee: oh geez. right, reviews are always from honest to goodness users.
	6:30pm JakeGould: I could steal Matt’s identity for a t-shirt.
	6:30pm northguineahills: @Jake: See Central Park North, DUMBO, East Village, etc.....
	6:31pm Linda Lee: the phone app is 'stringer'.
	6:31pm Aaron Working In Newark: AMHD, Chinese Biotech with a 4.7 million float, working to land on the Nasdaq. Get some MAtt!
	6:31pm JakeGould: @NGH: East Williamsburg.
	6:31pm Rich in Washington: uh, oh. Mark's gonna be entranced by crypto currency and this will turn into a music show ;)
	6:31pm queems: i think matt warwick is the perfect guest for this show
	6:31pm Switchblade Batman: @DaddyGarbage, you should try Stash. It's safer, and a bit more legit.
	6:31pm Courtney of Morris: Loving Matt even more, he needs to do more interviews
	6:31pm Linda Lee: not sure i'd be giggling about that one :-D
	6:32pm northguineahills: @Jake: My old hood!
	6:32pm Doobois: The best of both worlds: informative and entertaining!
	6:32pm Jeff Moore: 1. Crypto! 2. Blockchain! 3. ... 4. PROFIT!
	6:32pm Michael 98145: are all our swag-for-life donations blockchained?
	6:33pm dale: gnay - 'stringer'
	6:33pm dale: GNAT!
	6:33pm slugluv1313: @ Linda Lee -- i may still have some of my old maps? but i do not remember the term "East Village" existing back then . . . it was either "The Bowery" or the "Lower East Side" @ JakeGould -- right? i was wondering about that too (stringer call for that baby)
	6:34pm RLU: the clay and fab of tech
	6:34pm ultradamno: Is there a an app for coming up with stupid letter combinations for app names?
	6:35pm Neckbard: Garbage Time indeed.
	6:35pm Jeff Moore: Except the app to destroy the livelihoods of working news video shooters is actually "Stringer" spelled wrong - "Stringr". But don't use it, because it's evil.
	6:36pm Linda Lee: i think 'east village' came up just a short time after TriBeCa.
	6:36pm JakeGould: @slugluv1313: That baby makes me quite sad. I think something horrible happened to the parents or guardians and only the baby has been found. Like a boat accident.
	6:36pm northguineahills: @Sluvguv, I don't think I've seen East Village on maps until the 70s, and not heard in pop culture until the 80s (I researched gentrification for my MA).
	6:37pm Greg from ZONE 5: This is amazing.
	6:37pm Linda Lee: Matt: how much money have you made through some screen vs how much was made on you?
	6:37pm JakeGould: MATT I FOUND A DOLLAR AND AN UNLIMITED METROCARD THIS WEEKEND JUST BY WALKING NO APP NEEDED!!
	6:37pm queems: this is the most absurd thing i have ever heard, thank you
	6:38pm Linda Lee: TriBeCa came into play during the time i lived there, 78 - 81.
	6:38pm Robert Tables: @Jeff Moore: danke for the PDF. Been a Bradbury fan since reading "The Pedestrian" in an English textbook.
	🤖 6:38pm Webhamster Henry: There's an issue over in the Apple Music app community: Apple is discontinuing its affiliate program, which is to say, a tiny percentage they pay if you put an affiliate key in a link to an app the app store (note: they are keeping the affiliate program for music). This affect mostly review sites, which rely on these links for some income as opposed to more in-yer-face ads.
	6:39pm Linda Lee: but honestly, no app or website exists to make you money. come on.
	6:39pm Michael 98145: @ngh, probably about the time of the East Village Other ...
	6:40pm northguineahills: Wait, I can monetize my useless knowledge!
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: Now obviously there are link bots that just generate a zillion links in response to queries that also are affected by this change. But now review sites will need to figure out a source of replacement income to survive.
	6:40pm RLU: we are all embedded in THE STACK now, your rights are just the intersection of all the terms-of-service you are subjected to at any given moment in time, constantly shifting as your usage and the terms change.
	6:40pm Beast of Boonton: Cash Cab with Matt Warwick
	6:40pm Linda Lee: east village other came up in 65.
	6:40pm JakeGould: @WebmasterHenry: You can’t make Trillions by sharing!
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: It's clear my apps aren't stupid enough!
	6:41pm ultradamno: The name Qriket makes me increasingly angry the longer I live knowing that it exists
	6:41pm northguineahills: Little Rock
	6:41pm Linda Lee: sounds just about right, RLU
	🤖 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: Monitize garbage or garbitize money, which is the better business model?
	6:43pm Linda Lee: Matt Warwick: the perfect consumer!
	6:43pm Beast of Boonton: 'Cash Uber' with Matt Warwick - TV gold
	6:44pm geezerette: Matt, Matt, come to the light. ( :D )
	6:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Why are they such Monopolies ?? Is what they do so exclusive?? ...We need what facebook et al do to be connected - but it's all on their terms...
	6:44pm Jeff Moore: Don't touch that phone! Try not to even be in the room with it!
	🤖 6:44pm Ken From Hyde Park: Is there an app that gives you a random drink recipe for your bartender to serve you?
	6:44pm JakeGould: Glengarry Matt Warwick
	6:45pm dale: "let my love open the door...."
	6:45pm Michael 98145: well, that certainly was fun
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: Hey Matt I bet I could come up with a Felderator app!
	6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If crypto decentralizes Currency itself - as interwebz did to Journalism & Music...it will be - interesting...I'm sure the Government(s) will be interested...
	6:46pm Fredericks: So, Matt definitely has garbage on his phone.
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Or an app for which you tell it what inventory of alcohol and such that you have available and it suggests a variety of drinks that the bartender can serve up?
	6:47pm Greg from ZONE 5: Matty's approach is so completely unfamiliar to me. I have like 20 apps and I never even consider adding any.
	6:47pm Michael 98145: @ Greg, i suspect we are in the minority ...
	6:47pm JakeGould: The Felderator app plays “Heavy Metal (Takin’ a Ride)” every day at 11:00am forever.
	6:48pm Robert Tables: Wasn't it "Hot Dog Not Hot Dog" from the Silicon Valley show?
	6:48pm Bootsie: I heard a bit while I was driving... one of my fave Techtonic interviews as well! Will be checking out the archive to see what I missed
	6:49pm melinda: I think I have maybe 3-4 apps.
	🤖 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: Null Island is 0° latitude and 0° longitude. It's open water in the Atlantic Ocean off of Ghana. There is no real island there.
	6:51pm Beast of Boonton: 'Uber Cab' with Matt and Clay!
	6:51pm northguineahills: I never use GPS. If, I can't memorize my route, then I deserve to get lost.
	🤖 6:51pm herb.nyc: I've never heard of that ray Bradbury story as well. (pause). who the hell is ray Bradbury?
	6:51pm queems: my favorite app is the tamagotchi i downloaded for my phone
	6:52pm Greg from ZONE 5: I can set my alarm, check the weather and listen to WFMU. What else is there?
	🤖 6:52pm Bas NL: In line with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: I'd love a lava lamp app..
	6:52pm northguineahills: Got half of my swag, waiting for the other half!
	6:53pm Michael 98145: yule log app, anyone?
	6:53pm Michael 98145: thanks again, Mark H
	6:53pm Linda Lee: where is the decision made as to what name will be used?
	6:54pm JakeGould: GOOGLE IS ONE COMPANY!
	6:54pm Linda Lee: the issue is not where the name comes from, but where the decision as to naming is made.
	6:54pm Linda Lee: why be 'fair' to google? :-D
	6:55pm northguineahills: @Michael: NRK (Norway) & SVT (Sweden) usually have a late night show for hours devoted to yule log shows.
	6:55pm Beast of Boonton: Alphabet
	6:55pm northguineahills: (Outside of imagery, I rely on the USGS.)
	🤖 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Rand was one; McNally was another one.
	6:56pm Linda Lee: bring up issues of self-determination & intellectual privacy with some people & they'll call you quaint. jeez.
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: Rand McNally was pretty powerful .. and the USGS.
	6:56pm ultradamno: @michael Hallmark Channel has me covered for yule log staring www.hallmarkmoviesandmysteries.com...
	6:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...always these days thinking of Bradbury envisioning walls that were screens &tc. ...
	6:57pm Linda Lee: no, not felder
	6:57pm queems: NO
	6:57pm queems: NOOOOO
	6:57pm Greg from ZONE 5: OH NO
	6:57pm Jeff Moore: YES.
	6:57pm JakeGould: Yes!!!!
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Matt!
	6:57pm Beast of Boonton: Yes!
	6:57pm melinda: heehee
	6:57pm JakeGould: Yes!!!!
	6:57pm Michael 98145: Bradbury foresaw earbuds
	6:58pm Bootsie: OMG yessssss!!
	6:58pm queems: ok it sounds better like this. carry on
	6:58pm Beast of Boonton: Thanks Mark and Matt!
	6:58pm melinda: I like this version better.
	6:58pm Devin B.: Yeah this is better
	6:58pm ultradamno: No! Stop this now!
	6:58pm Rover James: Sweet Garbage Time salute!
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Heavy Silicon!
	6:58pm Linda Lee: preferable.
	6:58pm Robert Tables: This will be Matt's new bed music.
	6:58pm maestroso: Oh good heavens this is perfect!
	6:59pm melinda: or Light Metal
	6:59pm RLU: What about the decentralization of FACTS in the POST-CONSENSUS-TRUTH WORLD
	6:59pm queems: who even made this
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Nice! I wonder if there's a version of this from Gigawipf?
	6:59pm Cheri Pi: The stars are aligned!
	6:59pm Beast of Boonton: the 'poopy flute' version of this song is better
	6:59pm seth from muddy creek: History is written by the winners. I guess it’s still the same in the case of GMaps.
	7:00pm Cheri Pi: Quality
	7:00pm Greg from ZONE 5: Imagine the irony of THIS becoming the most clicky-starred song!
	7:00pm queems: @beast of booton agreed
	7:00pm dale: 16 bit poopy flute.
	7:00pm northguineahills: Danks Mark auf Matt!
	7:01pm Fredericks: So much better than the original
	7:01pm slugluv1313: # JakeGould -- have not had the news on, but i sure hope it was some sort of accident (i am way too familiar with deliberate crap done to those who are vulnerable) @ Linda Lee -- right! East Village Other! @ ngh -- exactly! perhaps descriptions for some neighborhoods (like "West Village") were kinda coined by the residents? but most definitely NOT by some inanimate entity like google!
	7:01pm Jeff Moore: Now I want to hear the scheißeflöte version too!
	7:01pm Rich in Washington: Thanks Mark! Thanks, Matt!
	7:03pm RLU: ALEXA TURN ON STUDIO A
	7:04pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Great conversation tonight. See you next week!
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Vocal Fry not on mainpage...
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...yes it is...

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 6, 2018

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August 6, 2018: Matt Warwick, host of Garbage Time on WFMU, reveals his favorite apps

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This week: Matt Warwick, host of Garbage Time on WFMU (Tuesdays 9am to 12 noon Eastern). Matt talks about his favorite smartphone apps, and why he doesn't worry about trying new tech.

Apps we talk about:

• Blippar

• Movie Pass (see also the CEO's recent apology)

• Stringr

• Robinhood

• Qriket

• Cash Show, a knock-off of HQ Trivia

Recent Tech News

• Apple becomes first trillion-dollar company (Guardian, Aug 2)

• As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume (NYT, Aug 2): Google Maps is becoming the accepted authority on neighborhood names, even when no one has heard of them ("East Cut" in SF), when they're typed wrong (Detroit's "Fishkorn" vs. the correct "Fiskhorn"), or just a joke (LA's "Silver Lake Heights"). New Yorkers can thank Google for presenting the world with "BoCoCa" (Boerum Hill / Cobble Hill / Carroll Gardens) and "Rambo" (Right Around the Manhattan Bridge Overpass).

• Local Resistance Builds to Google’s ‘Smart City’ in Toronto (WSJ, Aug 1): Sidewalk Labs, a subsidiary of Alphabet (Google), is creating a "smart neighborhood" on Toronto's waterfront called Quayside. "Privacy watchdogs have questioned who will control sensitive digital information as residents are tracked by sensors that may be embedded in such infrastructure as traffic lights, thermostats and garbage-disposal units. ... it also could allow Alphabet to incorporate some early ideas it gleaned from developing things like driverless cars, connected thermostats and security cameras."

• Google is embracing evil (New York Post, Aug 1), describing Google's efforts to get back into China with a censorship-friendly search engine. The Post concludes, "There’s still time to stand up for free thought, free speech, and a free internet."

Tonight's outtro is in honor of Matt Warwick! Listen to his show, Garbage Time, tomorrow (Tuesday) starting at 9am Eastern.

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Matt Warwick, host of Garbage Time on WFMU (Tuesdays 9am-12noon), talks about his favorite smartphone apps and why he doesn't worry about trying out new tech.
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack	No label
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with WFMU's Matt Warwick "Interview with WFMU's Matt Warwick"			0:15:50 (Pop-up)
	Your calls and comments 201-209-9368 "Your calls and comments 201-209-9368"			0:41:11 (Pop-up)
youtube-theblackenedone	8-bit Heavy Metal (Takin' A Ride)	No Album	No label	0:53:54 (Pop-up)
Mudboy	Swamp Things "Swamp Things" by "Mudboy"	Volume: V, Hungry Ghosts! These Songs Are Doors	Digitalis Recordings

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Listener comments!
	6:01pm ultradamno: Hello Mark, Teching Crew.
	6:01pm geezerette: Hay! I'm melting like American Cheese-food slices on a burger.
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Mark! Matt! All!
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark, Matt, and other tech-news Gospel-slingers!
	6:04pm queems: hey mark & matt ww
	6:04pm melinda: Hi everyone
	🤖 6:04pm herb.nyc: hi hi, I see the list of apps on the homepage. (1) I just cancelled my MoviePiss, even tho it's still not a bad deal. friend did too, and he got Sinemia. (2) I used to send vidlets to station mgr ken, tho he told me he no longer uses.
	6:04pm judy from croton: Listening as always
	6:05pm geezerette: Hi Bas! Ultra! L James! ...those in near future...
	🤖 6:06pm herb.nyc: trillion, with a t! wnyc said that US STEEL had a higher % of gdp, back in the day, 6%.. apple is 5%.
	6:06pm Roland from Australia: Looking forward to today’s episode
	6:06pm northguineahills: Be Evol..... (SY did it first).
	🤖 6:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: This week: Garbage Tech!
	6:06pm Fredericks: Tech meets Garbage and..........
	6:06pm dale: trump properties? putin inc.?
	6:07pm northguineahills: hola, Roland, buenas dias!!!
	6:07pm Fredericks: Too soon, Ken!
	6:07pm geezerette: ...and super recent past...
	6:07pm Beast of Boonton: Did Matt Warwick get his identity stolen? Another WFMU DJ said so recently
	6:07pm northguineahills: jejejeje, Ken!
	🤖 6:07pm Bas NL: Outweighs WFMU?
	6:08pm Greg from ZONE 5: Oi Mark!
	6:08pm Sean d: Hey Garbagae man!
	6:09pm queems: google maps is my life, i’m sorry
	6:10pm melinda: I'm addicted to google street view
	🤖 6:11pm Bas NL: I met a Google Earth camera car a couple of times last week.. i hope i turn up everywhere...
	6:11pm Beast of Boonton: Felder
	🤖 6:11pm Ken From Hyde Park: Little Matty Gherkin!
	6:11pm Robert Tables: I use an offline map app called "maps.me" and it's based on OpenStreetMap.
	6:11pm northguineahills: I don't use google maps on my phone, but I use google earth pro for work, (and from work, I memorize all maps I'll need for my journeys, the same I do w/ paper maps. I said maps twice, I must like maps [obvious])
	🤖 6:12pm herb.nyc: re google street view - for my parent's home, my dad had a pair of socks being airdried on the door. well, there be the socks in the photo.
	6:12pm melinda: I still like paper maps
	6:13pm Robert Tables: Supposedly you can request Google to blur your house in street view.
	🤖 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Banish Google Maps to Null Island!
	6:13pm Linda Lee: here's my issue with virtual right here. so easy. sorry, BoCoCa?
	6:13pm queems: i use paper maps for mapping all of my long walks
	6:14pm melinda: I've seen a few blurred houses
	6:14pm northguineahills: Most of Third World maps in google maps are done by volunteers in said locations (ie: South/SE Asia I know from cartography subreddits personally).
	6:14pm Linda Lee: i remember when we laughed at TriBeCa ~ but at least it wasn't a typo!
	6:15pm Dan: The terminal's still "Atlantic Avenue / Pacific Street"
	6:15pm ultradamno: Gumbo? Going under Manh...etc?
	6:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...next thing you know - the Pope will set the Calendar...
	6:15pm JakeGould: I lived in Boerum Hill when some marketing “guru” came up with the BoCoCa moniker. Now the neighborhood is extremely gentrified.
	🤖 6:15pm Bas NL: Personalty i love to be lost and ask for directions in the street. It's THE fun of travel.
	6:15pm melinda: @herb that's funny
	6:15pm Linda Lee: neighborhood names have history. remove place names, nullify & suppress history.
	6:16pm Linda Lee: who issues the names, holds the power.
	🤖 6:16pm herb.nyc: google is our new taskwabbit.
	6:16pm northguineahills: Google is involved in psychogeography manipulation.
	6:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ' The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history. ' - GeorgeOrwell...according to the interwebz...
	6:17pm Linda Lee: that's right Rev. remember MiniTruth?
	6:17pm northguineahills: @Rev Rabbit: today's GOP.
	6:18pm Beast of Boonton: goo-goo do poopy pants?
	6:18pm melinda: Creepy
	6:18pm Michael 98145: @RRn63, our growing ignorance of history is leading to our own obliteration.
	6:19pm Linda Lee: probably not 'destroy people' but 'destroy a people' ..
	6:20pm dale: do a duet of some kansas lyrics over sabbath
	6:20pm queems: the most contagious laugh award goes to
	6:20pm seth from muddy creek: Garbage Tech! Please: potato cannons & Aquanet flame throwers first.
	6:21pm Linda Lee: Matt's a youngster. 'tech forward' goes with the generational territory.
	6:21pm Linda Lee: pretty ingenious tracking strategy.
	6:21pm slugluv1313: @ Linda Lee -- right?!! re: TriBeCa when i was first venturing into NYC in the late 1970s -- i would break out my trusty Hagstrom maps and subway maps and write down directions if i had to (oh sure i was just some dumb kid from NJ -- but even i knew better than to break out a map while on the subway!) NOW i see all these young-uns (especially on "party" nights in Hoboken and NYC) and they all have "smart" phones, GPS, etc., and they STILL cannot find where they parked their car(s) hah!
	6:22pm JakeGould: Most modern neighborhood names were concocted by real estate agents for marketing purposes. So I don’t respect that “history.” Cobble Hill is a name created in the 1950s for gentrification purposes. The name Boreum Hill was coined in 1964 for similar purposes. Carroll Gardens might have history but it became pushed heavily after the BQE split the neighborhood. Don’t fall for fake history. At least in NYC.
	6:22pm JakeGould: Anyway, Matt was the first to show me that “Is It a Hot Dog?” app and it’s amazing. And so is Matt!
	6:23pm Linda Lee: @slugluv ~ that's funny. first time i saw the name 'TriBeCa' was on a paper neighborhood map.
	6:23pm Jeff Moore: Okay, Mark – your discussion of that community filled all the Google / Nest current and future sensors and IoT devices reminds me to ask you: are you (I hope!) familiar with Ray Bradbury's perfect and prescient short story "The Murderer"? Bradbury had this world we live in and are diving deeper into pegged – in 1953! en.wikipedia.org...
	6:26pm Linda Lee: it's all history, Jake. seeing how this has been done over time under the aegis of development, and when, informs your knowledge of development. not a bad thing.
	6:26pm Jeff Moore: "I'm here to help you," said the psychiatrist, frowning. Something was wrong with the room. He had hesitated the moment he entered. He glanced around. The prisoner laughed. "If you're wondering why it's so quiet in here, I just kicked the radio to death." Violent, thought the doctor. The prisoner read this thought, smiled, put out a gentle hand. "No, only to machines that yak-yak-yak." Bits of the wall radio's tubes and wires lay on the gray carpeting. Ignoring these, feeling that smile upon him like a heat lamp, the psychiatrist sat across from his patient in the unusual silence which was like the gathering of a storm. "You're Mr. Albert Brock, who calls himself The Murderer?" Brock nodded pleasantly. "Before we start . . ." He moved quietly and quickly to detach the wrist radio from the doctor's arm. He tucked it in his teeth like a walnut, gritted, heard it crack, handed it back to the appalled psychiatrist as if he had done them both a favor. "That's better."
	6:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.facebook.com...
	6:27pm Beast of Boonton: So, Matt is NOT a vertical video type?
	6:27pm dale: this reminds me of the movie nightcrawler
	6:27pm queems: it’s a creepy movie
	6:27pm Linda Lee: gee .. another ingenious tracking strategy! at least this one's paid, though.
	6:28pm JakeGould: @Jeff One of the homeless guys in my neighborhood destroys air conditioners for metals inside. Such murdering.
	6:28pm dale: WOW! really creepy dude creates accidents and murders to photograph to sell. jake gylenhall?
	6:28pm JakeGould: this reminds me of the movie nightcrawler
	6:28pm Linda Lee: might as well get paid for your own commodification.
	6:29pm Linda Lee: who was it who said, if there's no fee, you're the product?
	6:29pm JakeGould: What about the poor baby they found in the east river? Was there a Stringer call for that?
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: How lucky was WeeGee anyway?
	6:29pm Gnat: I stepped away for a second, what was the photo taking app Matt is talking about??
	6:30pm Jeff Moore: "Mr. Brock, may I suggest that so far your whole pattern here is not very- practical? If you didn't like transit radios or office radios or car business radios, why didn't you join a fraternity of radio haters, start petitions, get legal and constitutional rulings? After all, this is a democracy." "And I," said Brock, "am that thing best called a minority. I did join fraternities, picket, pass petitions, take it to court. Year after year I protested. Everyone laughed. Everyone else loved bus radios and commercials. I was out of step." "Then you should have taken it like a good soldier, don't you think? The majority rules." "But they went too far. If a little music and 'keeping in touch' was charming, they figured a lot would be ten times as charming. I went wild! I got home to find my wife hysterical. Why? Because she had been completely out of touch with me for half a day. Remember, I did a dance on my wrist radio? Well, that night I laid plans to murder my house." www.sediment.uni-goettingen.de...
	6:30pm Linda Lee: oh geez. right, reviews are always from honest to goodness users.
	6:30pm JakeGould: I could steal Matt’s identity for a t-shirt.
	6:30pm northguineahills: @Jake: See Central Park North, DUMBO, East Village, etc.....
	6:31pm Linda Lee: the phone app is 'stringer'.
	6:31pm Aaron Working In Newark: AMHD, Chinese Biotech with a 4.7 million float, working to land on the Nasdaq. Get some MAtt!
	6:31pm JakeGould: @NGH: East Williamsburg.
	6:31pm Rich in Washington: uh, oh. Mark's gonna be entranced by crypto currency and this will turn into a music show ;)
	6:31pm queems: i think matt warwick is the perfect guest for this show
	6:31pm Switchblade Batman: @DaddyGarbage, you should try Stash. It's safer, and a bit more legit.
	6:31pm Courtney of Morris: Loving Matt even more, he needs to do more interviews
	6:31pm Linda Lee: not sure i'd be giggling about that one :-D
	6:32pm northguineahills: @Jake: My old hood!
	6:32pm Doobois: The best of both worlds: informative and entertaining!
	6:32pm Jeff Moore: 1. Crypto! 2. Blockchain! 3. ... 4. PROFIT!
	6:32pm Michael 98145: are all our swag-for-life donations blockchained?
	6:33pm dale: gnay - 'stringer'
	6:33pm dale: GNAT!
	6:33pm slugluv1313: @ Linda Lee -- i may still have some of my old maps? but i do not remember the term "East Village" existing back then . . . it was either "The Bowery" or the "Lower East Side" @ JakeGould -- right? i was wondering about that too (stringer call for that baby)
	6:34pm RLU: the clay and fab of tech
	6:34pm ultradamno: Is there a an app for coming up with stupid letter combinations for app names?
	6:35pm Neckbard: Garbage Time indeed.
	6:35pm Jeff Moore: Except the app to destroy the livelihoods of working news video shooters is actually "Stringer" spelled wrong - "Stringr". But don't use it, because it's evil.
	6:36pm Linda Lee: i think 'east village' came up just a short time after TriBeCa.
	6:36pm JakeGould: @slugluv1313: That baby makes me quite sad. I think something horrible happened to the parents or guardians and only the baby has been found. Like a boat accident.
	6:36pm northguineahills: @Sluvguv, I don't think I've seen East Village on maps until the 70s, and not heard in pop culture until the 80s (I researched gentrification for my MA).
	6:37pm Greg from ZONE 5: This is amazing.
	6:37pm Linda Lee: Matt: how much money have you made through some screen vs how much was made on you?
	6:37pm JakeGould: MATT I FOUND A DOLLAR AND AN UNLIMITED METROCARD THIS WEEKEND JUST BY WALKING NO APP NEEDED!!
	6:37pm queems: this is the most absurd thing i have ever heard, thank you
	6:38pm Linda Lee: TriBeCa came into play during the time i lived there, 78 - 81.
	6:38pm Robert Tables: @Jeff Moore: danke for the PDF. Been a Bradbury fan since reading "The Pedestrian" in an English textbook.
	🤖 6:38pm Webhamster Henry: There's an issue over in the Apple Music app community: Apple is discontinuing its affiliate program, which is to say, a tiny percentage they pay if you put an affiliate key in a link to an app the app store (note: they are keeping the affiliate program for music). This affect mostly review sites, which rely on these links for some income as opposed to more in-yer-face ads.
	6:39pm Linda Lee: but honestly, no app or website exists to make you money. come on.
	6:39pm Michael 98145: @ngh, probably about the time of the East Village Other ...
	6:40pm northguineahills: Wait, I can monetize my useless knowledge!
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: Now obviously there are link bots that just generate a zillion links in response to queries that also are affected by this change. But now review sites will need to figure out a source of replacement income to survive.
	6:40pm RLU: we are all embedded in THE STACK now, your rights are just the intersection of all the terms-of-service you are subjected to at any given moment in time, constantly shifting as your usage and the terms change.
	6:40pm Beast of Boonton: Cash Cab with Matt Warwick
	6:40pm Linda Lee: east village other came up in 65.
	6:40pm JakeGould: @WebmasterHenry: You can’t make Trillions by sharing!
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: It's clear my apps aren't stupid enough!
	6:41pm ultradamno: The name Qriket makes me increasingly angry the longer I live knowing that it exists
	6:41pm northguineahills: Little Rock
	6:41pm Linda Lee: sounds just about right, RLU
	🤖 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: Monitize garbage or garbitize money, which is the better business model?
	6:43pm Linda Lee: Matt Warwick: the perfect consumer!
	6:43pm Beast of Boonton: 'Cash Uber' with Matt Warwick - TV gold
	6:44pm geezerette: Matt, Matt, come to the light. ( :D )
	6:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Why are they such Monopolies ?? Is what they do so exclusive?? ...We need what facebook et al do to be connected - but it's all on their terms...
	6:44pm Jeff Moore: Don't touch that phone! Try not to even be in the room with it!
	🤖 6:44pm Ken From Hyde Park: Is there an app that gives you a random drink recipe for your bartender to serve you?
	6:44pm JakeGould: Glengarry Matt Warwick
	6:45pm dale: "let my love open the door...."
	6:45pm Michael 98145: well, that certainly was fun
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: Hey Matt I bet I could come up with a Felderator app!
	6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If crypto decentralizes Currency itself - as interwebz did to Journalism & Music...it will be - interesting...I'm sure the Government(s) will be interested...
	6:46pm Fredericks: So, Matt definitely has garbage on his phone.
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Or an app for which you tell it what inventory of alcohol and such that you have available and it suggests a variety of drinks that the bartender can serve up?
	6:47pm Greg from ZONE 5: Matty's approach is so completely unfamiliar to me. I have like 20 apps and I never even consider adding any.
	6:47pm Michael 98145: @ Greg, i suspect we are in the minority ...
	6:47pm JakeGould: The Felderator app plays “Heavy Metal (Takin’ a Ride)” every day at 11:00am forever.
	6:48pm Robert Tables: Wasn't it "Hot Dog Not Hot Dog" from the Silicon Valley show?
	6:48pm Bootsie: I heard a bit while I was driving... one of my fave Techtonic interviews as well! Will be checking out the archive to see what I missed
	6:49pm melinda: I think I have maybe 3-4 apps.
	🤖 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: Null Island is 0° latitude and 0° longitude. It's open water in the Atlantic Ocean off of Ghana. There is no real island there.
	6:51pm Beast of Boonton: 'Uber Cab' with Matt and Clay!
	6:51pm northguineahills: I never use GPS. If, I can't memorize my route, then I deserve to get lost.
	🤖 6:51pm herb.nyc: I've never heard of that ray Bradbury story as well. (pause). who the hell is ray Bradbury?
	6:51pm queems: my favorite app is the tamagotchi i downloaded for my phone
	6:52pm Greg from ZONE 5: I can set my alarm, check the weather and listen to WFMU. What else is there?
	🤖 6:52pm Bas NL: In line with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: I'd love a lava lamp app..
	6:52pm northguineahills: Got half of my swag, waiting for the other half!
	6:53pm Michael 98145: yule log app, anyone?
	6:53pm Michael 98145: thanks again, Mark H
	6:53pm Linda Lee: where is the decision made as to what name will be used?
	6:54pm JakeGould: GOOGLE IS ONE COMPANY!
	6:54pm Linda Lee: the issue is not where the name comes from, but where the decision as to naming is made.
	6:54pm Linda Lee: why be 'fair' to google? :-D
	6:55pm northguineahills: @Michael: NRK (Norway) & SVT (Sweden) usually have a late night show for hours devoted to yule log shows.
	6:55pm Beast of Boonton: Alphabet
	6:55pm northguineahills: (Outside of imagery, I rely on the USGS.)
	🤖 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Rand was one; McNally was another one.
	6:56pm Linda Lee: bring up issues of self-determination & intellectual privacy with some people & they'll call you quaint. jeez.
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: Rand McNally was pretty powerful .. and the USGS.
	6:56pm ultradamno: @michael Hallmark Channel has me covered for yule log staring www.hallmarkmoviesandmysteries.com...
	6:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...always these days thinking of Bradbury envisioning walls that were screens &tc. ...
	6:57pm Linda Lee: no, not felder
	6:57pm queems: NO
	6:57pm queems: NOOOOO
	6:57pm Greg from ZONE 5: OH NO
	6:57pm Jeff Moore: YES.
	6:57pm JakeGould: Yes!!!!
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Matt!
	6:57pm Beast of Boonton: Yes!
	6:57pm melinda: heehee
	6:57pm JakeGould: Yes!!!!
	6:57pm Michael 98145: Bradbury foresaw earbuds
	6:58pm Bootsie: OMG yessssss!!
	6:58pm queems: ok it sounds better like this. carry on
	6:58pm Beast of Boonton: Thanks Mark and Matt!
	6:58pm melinda: I like this version better.
	6:58pm Devin B.: Yeah this is better
	6:58pm ultradamno: No! Stop this now!
	6:58pm Rover James: Sweet Garbage Time salute!
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Heavy Silicon!
	6:58pm Linda Lee: preferable.
	6:58pm Robert Tables: This will be Matt's new bed music.
	6:58pm maestroso: Oh good heavens this is perfect!
	6:59pm melinda: or Light Metal
	6:59pm RLU: What about the decentralization of FACTS in the POST-CONSENSUS-TRUTH WORLD
	6:59pm queems: who even made this
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Nice! I wonder if there's a version of this from Gigawipf?
	6:59pm Cheri Pi: The stars are aligned!
	6:59pm Beast of Boonton: the 'poopy flute' version of this song is better
	6:59pm seth from muddy creek: History is written by the winners. I guess it’s still the same in the case of GMaps.
	7:00pm Cheri Pi: Quality
	7:00pm Greg from ZONE 5: Imagine the irony of THIS becoming the most clicky-starred song!
	7:00pm queems: @beast of booton agreed
	7:00pm dale: 16 bit poopy flute.
	7:00pm northguineahills: Danks Mark auf Matt!
	7:01pm Fredericks: So much better than the original
	7:01pm slugluv1313: # JakeGould -- have not had the news on, but i sure hope it was some sort of accident (i am way too familiar with deliberate crap done to those who are vulnerable) @ Linda Lee -- right! East Village Other! @ ngh -- exactly! perhaps descriptions for some neighborhoods (like "West Village") were kinda coined by the residents? but most definitely NOT by some inanimate entity like google!
	7:01pm Jeff Moore: Now I want to hear the scheißeflöte version too!
	7:01pm Rich in Washington: Thanks Mark! Thanks, Matt!
	7:03pm RLU: ALEXA TURN ON STUDIO A
	7:04pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Great conversation tonight. See you next week!
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Vocal Fry not on mainpage...
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...yes it is...

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