WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from February 2, 2020

Listener comments!
	🥁 8:58am Listener Gregory: I'm conglipting all by myself here...
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Listener Gregory! Got some tatasmatoes for ya.
	🥁 9:02am WR: Bright & sunny in Queens. Still cloudy in my head. Time to clear it out with Destination: Out ---
	🥁 9:02am Listener Gregory: Go, Roscoe! I'm guessing that all today's music comes from Kansas City and San Francisco.
	9:05am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	🥁 9:06am WR: Sorry, I'll get it right, destination: OUT. 02022020 and the stadium event scheduled today is not in scope for my day.
	9:07am Jeff Golick: Hello, @WR! Welcome! S'up, @holland oats!
	🥁 9:10am doctorjazz: I'm willing to March into hell for a heavenly cause! (But in the meantime, I'll lay here in bed listening to D.O).
	🥁 9:11am doctorjazz: That Cantor can play my Tempore any time, lovely!
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Now that you mention it, @LG, that KC/SF thing would've been a really cool idea. Ah well.
	9:13am Rock Ridge Chess Club: Do dig d:O.
	9:14am Jeff Golick: Hi hi hi, @Rock Ridge Chess Club!
	🥁 9:14am doctorjazz: Is this what they call Musique concrete?
	9:16am Jeff Golick: Hit the nail on the head, @doctorjazz! Great to see you; any shows this weekend?
	🥁 9:18am Listener Gregory: To be honest, contemporary music has generally not given sufficient thought to concrete as a building material. Good to see this oversight being addressed.
	9:19am LP Stevenson: I just watched Get Carter last Saturday. This is vivid.
	9:20am Jeff Golick: Now I desperately want to see it, @LP Stevenson. Hello & welcome!
	9:21am holland oats: jungle concrète
	🥁 9:23am doctorjazz: Went to Nels Cline this past Mondaky at Roulette, great show! .(acoustic guitar, , harp, acoustic bass, voice, went with my daughter). This weekend just family stuff (funeral in Bethesda Maryland yesterday, my niece's engagement party today.lots of driving.
	🥁 9:26am duke: Good morning D:Oers
	🥁 9:26am WR: Damn. A lot going on for you doctorjazz, I just have work and home chores to keep up with and can't keep up.
	9:26am fred: Good morning Jeff and all
	🥁 9:26am doctorjazz: Already went to the Cantor Bandcamp link. Ben Goldberg on clarinet...i really like him (saw him with Boom Tic Boom a few weeks ago).
	9:26am LP Stevenson: Always here for at least the first hour, Jeff. Just not very active in the chat. Love the show!
	9:28am LP Stevenson: If you watch Get Carter, be prepared for some incredible misogyny. Even for the time, it’s out there.
	9:28am Jeff Golick: Morning, @duke! Afternoon, @fred! Yay and good to meet, @LPS.
	🥁 9:29am Listener Gregory: Ben Goldberg had one of my favorite albums of 2015: Orphic Machine. There is poetry, but I promise you, it doesn't hurt a bit.
	9:30am Jeff Golick: Big doings, @doc! I went food shopping yesterday, and mailed a few packages. That was a big day.
	🥁 9:32am hyde: hello!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Appreciate that, @LP Stevenson. Having worked for a publisher that specialized in reissuing older books, I can recognize the difficulty in bringing things from decades ago into the light of current day. There are spy thrillers and such from the 60s and 70s that are just overwhelmingly sexist, to an almost debilitating degree.
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Greets, @hyde!
	9:34am Jeff Golick: I should give Orphic Machine another look, @LG.
	🥁 9:34am doctorjazz: Yeah,kinda pooped half way through, chillin' while I can.
	🥁 9:38am doctorjazz: I like Subatomic Particle Homesick Blues (and I'm a sucker for the album title).
	🥁 9:38am WR: OMG Jeff, are the books actually bowdlerized books clearly marked as such. I have very strong and mixed response to that process.
	9:40am Jeff Golick: @WR: no, we didn't mess with the books at all. Sometimes for things from the 19th century or early 20th there would be a note on the copyright page, but no bowdlerizing.
	9:42am Jeff Golick: In one case I can recall, an author's son went in and cleared up some of the baldly racist stuff that was in the original work. (The original work in this case was The Voyages of Doctor Dolittle.)
	🥁 9:42am doctorjazz: Speaking of albums I like, I found an album on my Pono player I hadn't listened to in a while, Julian Lage's World's Fair. Solo acoustic guitar, really great stuff (to my ears).
	9:42am Jeff Golick: (That Lofting family revision happened in the 1950s or so, I think.)
	9:43am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, greets to the :OUT contingent, and those just happening by.
	9:43am Jeff Golick: ::: furious waving ::: Hi, @Sem!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: As for Ben Goldberg, I am partial to his work on the Jamie Saft record Borscht Belt Studies.
	🥁 9:45am Listener Gregory: Re: Parmegiani, I was just thinking, "This is a bit out of date," and then I saw the date.
	9:46am Jeff Golick: Yeah, funny how our ears can carbon-date electronic music.
	🥁 9:52am WR: I was thinking that new editions of books for youth would be some what justified but that clear notation of changes and why be included and used as tool for further learning. There has always been The Censors looming in publishing, even when authors first getting published but unacknowledged ongoing change of previously published works is a slippery slope. Sorry to go all blah blah on this tangent. My task for this morning is to do something about the nearly 50 pages I open in Chome to band camp and wikipedia pages from playlist links.
	🥁 9:55am WR: Oh, and also try to remember the password for the laptop I reinstalled windows on in September. What was I thinking on that balmy Indian summer day. Clever me always out smarting me. Is tha Ayler? Yes?
	🥁 9:59am Listener Gregory: @WR, I think you're right about the edited versions of books for youth. However, I also think it is important for people to understand how people talked and thought back in the day. I just had an uncomfortable experience reading a Daniel Defoe novel that had episodes in slave-holding Virginia. Defoe was quite enlightened for the time, but even so, his attitudes were ghastly. We shouldn't forget those things.
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: Great set! (Already ordered 2 CDs, man, Jeff...)
	🥁 10:05am WR: Totally agree LGregory. Keep the dreadful parts but flag it and appendicize it with contemporary context.
	🥁 10:10am doctorjazz: This is cool... reminds me a bit of Eugene Chadbourne' s off kilter hybrids.
	10:10am Jeff Golick: Oh, yeah, @doc, that's a great comparison.
	10:19am Andrew Waterloo: Well.. I've been to Trinity Square in Gateshead.. I have walked across the iron bridge as well.
	🥁 10:20am doctorjazz: Ok, dog walking time.
	10:22am Jeff Golick: @Andrew Waterloo, world traveler! Hiya. @doc: happy walking. Give the pooch a scritch for me.
	🥁 10:26am doctorjazz: (Good thing there's no link to this Aiinmusire...man, wow!
	🥁 10:28am doctorjazz: The Bad Plus did a good version of Lithium as well.
	🥁 10:28am hyde: this is quite nice
	10:30am Jeff Golick: Oh yeah, @doc? I don't know that version.
	🥁 10:32am doctorjazz: They did one album with vocalists...a YouTube link for later... youtu.be...
	10:33am fred: @doctorjazz: I guess this show often proves dangerous to your wallet
	🥁 10:34am doctorjazz: @Fred... it's a killer!
	🥁 10:34am WR: BATM! New to me! The have lots on YouTube!
	🥁 10:41am WR: Oh, damn, Black Merda is one of those links I have open pending snagging some for me.
	🥁 10:51am doctorjazz: Nice to hear thus GOF.
	10:52am Dean: Played the entire album yesterday. Used to spin it just about daily.
	🥁 10:54am WR: Mein gott. Econore discog for ~30 $.... this bandcamp thing can be so tempting.
	🥁 10:59am Listener Gregory: Jeff, wouldn't Iyer's comment apply more to genres that are actually popular within the Black community? Maybe it was true in the 1940s, but now?
	11:00am ParUbi: (having a lurk and listen)
	11:04am fred: Borbetomagus! Probably the loudest show I ever attented
	11:04am Jeff Golick: Hello, @ParUbi!
	11:05am Jeff Golick: Here's that Vijay Iyer interview with Kelley: bostonreview.net...
	11:06am Dean: My Borbetomagus story: A few years ago I was in Cambridge, MA, for something or other, and I wanted to visit Weirdo Records, now defunct. I'd been looking for a recording of Borbetomagus and Hijokaidan at Victo, but had never stumbled across it. As I approached the store from about a block away I sensed -- virtually smelled -- the record at Weirdo, which kept a very small inventory. Indeed it was there, and I bought it.
	🥁 11:07am Listener Gregory: Perhaps a senator should have said, "I have a musical question" during the trial--and played this cut. That would have been useful.
	🥁 11:07am hyde: @Dean i loved Weirdo Records
	11:08am Jeff Golick: @Dean! That sixth sense...love it when that happens.
	11:12am Jeff Golick: @LG: (re Iyer) that's certainly true, but still there is the basic (historical?) fact that jazz is Black American music. I suppose it now offers a less complicated proximity, but not that uncomplicated, as recent troubles at WBGO indicate: www.nytimes.com...
	🥁 11:13am Doug Schulkind: The Gang's not all here :-(
	11:14am Dean: I did, too, hyde. Sorry it's gone. At a glance, Vijay Iyer seems ... confused or distracted ... by "nouns that become freighted with people’s agendas." That's understandably a real danger, but then to avoid the confusing distraction one needs to devote one's energies, for a time, not to political advocacy, but to boring stuff like philology. He seems not eager to do that.
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: Not to quibble with Iyer (a Genius Fellow, no), but you could say the same thing about rock, country, Blues, R & B, almost all American music, at least to some extent.
	11:16am Jeff Golick: @Doug: Hi, and well said. :(
	11:19am Jeff Golick: Can anyone out there offer pronunciation help on the Swedish musician Anna Högberg's (playing horn on this YES) last name?
	11:21am fred: I like the "verb instead of nouns" approach, in that it emphasizes action. I remember clearly the acrimony and wasted hours over whether I could claim to be feminist despite being male. I said had no problem being an ally instead, but that lead to more wasted hours over whether that was divisive and demeaning.
	11:26am Dean: Great example, fred. I resolved that question for myself many years ago, thanks to a passage in a footnote in Christine Littleton's "Reconstructing Sexual Equality." She wrote, "I take the experience of living a goodly number of years as a woman to be a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite of feminism. Ergo, on my definition, men would have to give up their class status in some nontemporary way in order to meet the minimum qualifications."
	11:27am Jeff Golick: I promised this a while earlier: here is Bird Is the Worm's best of 2019 list, still in progress -- www.birdistheworm.com...
	11:27am Stork: Umlauts are really tough. It's easier to hear and copy or look at someone's mouth to get the idea of how to form one. Been in Germany 17 years and I still have a long way to Umlaut.
	🥁 11:28am Listener Gregory: @Fred, I find these kinds of disputes discouraging, as they are basically creating arguments among friends, when there are actual enemies and real issues that should be addressed.
	11:29am Jeff Golick: @Stork! Hi! Folks, Stork is getting ready to rock your world at the top of the hour, at this location: wfmu.org...
	11:31am Dean: Per Google Translate (caution!), it's something like: həg - BAYRG
	11:31am Stork: Hey Out-Timers - hope you can get past the bouncers* and into the Club tonight. Special birthday trib to Stan Getz. It started small, but it could Getz outta hand (pause for laughter). *There are no bouncers. Just trying to gin up some fear and excitement.
	11:31am Stork: Thanks, Jeff! Now why can't I remember to do that?
	11:32am Jeff Golick: I think you just did!
	🥁 11:33am Doug Schulkind: Let's ask Greta Thunberg.
	11:34am fred: @Listener Gregory: These stupid disputes also absurdly build community, unless someone takes them too seriously for too long. Anarchists are great at this, if a mob emerges (like 3 people agreeing), it will naturally split. Just shooting the breeze, having each other's back when it counts is what matters
	11:34am Stork: On Umlauts: listen to Kurt Schwitters Ur-Sonate - he does lots of em.
	11:35am Jeff Golick: Big sigh. The Left has a unique ability to spend time parsing the subtleties of language and representation while the Right builds a fortress around us. I'm all for subtlety, but the political process is more boot-on-neck than quill-on-paper. BLEARGH.
	11:35am Jeff Golick: BACK TO THE MUSIC!
	🥁 11:38am Listener Gregory: @Fred: Thät's ït! I'm qüïttïng thïs strëäm änd stärtïng önë wïth ÄLL ümläüts!
	11:39am fred: @Stork: Did your immersion give you insight on the metal umlaut? Especially the one in Spınal Tap
	🥁 11:40am Listener Gregory: (Would have added the epithet running dog imperialists, but that would have required too many umlauts.)
	🥁 11:41am Listener Gregory: This is good "to the barricades" music.
	🥁 11:41am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): leaping into the sonic fray—hello!
	11:42am fred: @LG: Some commenters have used a site that stacks combining diacritics over and under letters for funny but barely legible display (I can't remember the name)
	🥁 11:42am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff, great (expensive) show. On the road soon. Great week all!
	11:43am Jeff Golick: @Granny! Spicy! Tuna! (e/em) -- new pronouns?
	🥁 11:44am Listener Gregory: @fred, my new stream will NOT be funny, I promise.
	🥁 11:46am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): @Jeff: i'm graduating everybody to my correct pronouns, though they/them is always a respectful default, in my book.
	11:47am Dean: Buddy of mine has a new movie premiering at SXSW: https://echoesoftheinvisiblefilm.com/ His first movie, Reach of Resonance, won international awards. It featured Fred Frith, Jon Rose, Miya Masaoka, Bob Ostertag, and John Luther Adams.
	🥁 11:48am Listener Gregory: Well, I was about to leave for a walk, and now "Dark is the Night" comes on. Oy.
	🥁 11:49am doctorjazz: Same here, LG.
	🥁 11:49am Listener Gregory: BTW, I think we could bring together the entire country around the issue of totally eliminating Groundhog Day (the annual event, not the movie). What an annoying farce.
	🥁 11:49am WR: Initial reaction was why place any version besides theme "the original" but quickly followed by, um, wow listen to this...
	11:50am Dean: Oh, shoot, that's right. Today is James Joyce's birthday!
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: @Granny, one criticism I've read of "e" is that it sounds like "he" in actual speech, because the h in he is often barely there.
	🥁 11:52am doctorjazz: This Astroturf Noise crew are right in my sweet spot.
	🥁 11:52am doctorjazz: Jeff! Cut it out!
	🥁 11:53am doctorjazz: (Never heard this Sweet Jane version)
	🥁 11:53am Listener Gregory: Heading to my walk for sure now. Thanks a lot, Jëff!
	🥁 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): @Dean: that movie looks amazing! @Listener Gregory: that's true, some folx pronounce it "ey" but io like the elegance of the Spivak version, and i'd rather be called he than she. (and it's not because i'm not a feminist) <3
	11:54am fred: @GST: You inspired me to use the singular they consistently at work. It went pretty well. Spivak pronouns are a bold step, probably would get in the way of being understood (an issue for me, as a non native speaker)
	11:55am Stork: Sorry Fred - I don't the reference, though I saw Spinal Tap, natch.
	🥁 11:56am Doug Schulkind: The Stork Club is up next, here on your 24-hour Drummer Stream!! Stork's over here: wfmu.org...
	🥁 11:56am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): @fred: so cool! yeah, i can barely imagine the trickiness of unusual pronouns in French!
	11:56am fred: @Stork: A metal umlaut is supposed to be over the "n" in Spinal
	🥁 11:57am WR: LOL, there is a contingency in New York who booed Lou Reed at every appearance I've heard, in person and bootleg, etc.
	🥁 11:57am Doug Schulkind: Guac and roll?
	11:57am fred: @GST: There's no such thing in French. I avoid writing in that language anyway
	🥁 11:57am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): WR: ha ha!
	🥁 11:58am WR: Ysy, guacamole, that is a team I can root for.
	12:06pm Ike: Ka-boing ka-boing ka-boing

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February 2, 2020: There's no right answer, but you're wrong

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:06 (Pop-up)
Ila Cantor	Opening: Part I "Opening: Part I" by "Ila Cantor"	Encanto	Slow and Steady	2019		0:05:23 (Pop-up)
Langham Research Centre	Gateshead Multi-Storey Car Park	Gateshead Multi-Storey Car Park	Econore	2018		0:10:47 (Pop-up)
Robert Haigh	Stranger on the Lake	Black Sarabande	Unseen Worlds	2020		0:28:46 (Pop-up)
Bernard Parmegiani	L'Instant Mobile	Chronos	Philips	1972		0:34:50 (Pop-up)
Futuro Antico	Piano Synt "Piano Synt" by "Futuro Antico"	Dai Primitivi all’Elettronica	Casal Gajardo Records	1980/1990		0:44:34 (Pop-up)
Albert Ayler	Water Music "Water Music" by "Albert Ayler"	The Last Album	Impulse!	1971		0:53:57 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					1:00:06 (Pop-up)
Astroturf Noise	Liberty "Liberty" by "Astroturf Noise"	Astroturf Noise	577 Records	2020		1:07:30 (Pop-up)
Caroline Davis	Flight "Flight" by "Caroline Davis"	Alula	New Amsterdam Records	2019		1:12:09 (Pop-up)
Ambrose Akinmusire	The Lingering Velocity of the Dead's Ambitions	Origami Harvest	Blue Note	2018		1:15:30 (Pop-up)
Pete Robbins	Lithium "Lithium" by "Pete Robbins"	Pyramid	Hate Laugh Music	2014		1:25:13 (Pop-up)
Brass Against the Machine	Bulls on Parade				via youtube	1:30:15 (Pop-up)
A Tribe Called Quest	Excursions "Excursions" by "A Tribe Called Quest"	The Low End Theory	Jive	1991		1:34:11 (Pop-up)
Black Merda	Sometimes I Wish "Sometimes I Wish" by "Black Merda"	Long Burn the Fire	Janus	1972		1:37:55 (Pop-up)
Bob Marley & The Wailers	400 Years					1:41:29 (Pop-up)
Paul Flaherty	there's no right answer, but you're wrong	Dead Centipedes	Econore	2020		1:44:25 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gang of Four	I Found that Essence Rare	Entertainment!				1:48:42 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Mouse on Mars	Fantastic Analysis "Fantastic Analysis" by "Mouse on Mars"					1:51:33 (Pop-up)
Borbetomagus	We Were Done wit the Judgment of God Last Week	À Go-Go	Agaric	1998/2009		2:02:19 (Pop-up)
Gang of Four	Love Like Anthrax "Love Like Anthrax" by "Gang of Four"					2:09:04 (Pop-up)
The Big YES!	Kalmar Union "Kalmar Union" by "The Big YES!"	The Big YES!	Nakama Records	2019		2:13:53 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					2:43:05 (Pop-up)
Jack Rose	Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground	Two Originals of...		2002		2:47:31 (Pop-up)
Astroturf Noise	Black Berry "Black Berry" by "Astroturf Noise"					2:50:14 (Pop-up)
Gang of Four	Sweet Jane "Sweet Jane" by "Gang of Four"					2:51:24 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:54:31 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 8:58am Listener Gregory: I'm conglipting all by myself here...
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Listener Gregory! Got some tatasmatoes for ya.
	🥁 9:02am WR: Bright & sunny in Queens. Still cloudy in my head. Time to clear it out with Destination: Out ---
	🥁 9:02am Listener Gregory: Go, Roscoe! I'm guessing that all today's music comes from Kansas City and San Francisco.
	9:05am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	🥁 9:06am WR: Sorry, I'll get it right, destination: OUT. 02022020 and the stadium event scheduled today is not in scope for my day.
	9:07am Jeff Golick: Hello, @WR! Welcome! S'up, @holland oats!
	🥁 9:10am doctorjazz: I'm willing to March into hell for a heavenly cause! (But in the meantime, I'll lay here in bed listening to D.O).
	🥁 9:11am doctorjazz: That Cantor can play my Tempore any time, lovely!
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Now that you mention it, @LG, that KC/SF thing would've been a really cool idea. Ah well.
	9:13am Rock Ridge Chess Club: Do dig d:O.
	9:14am Jeff Golick: Hi hi hi, @Rock Ridge Chess Club!
	🥁 9:14am doctorjazz: Is this what they call Musique concrete?
	9:16am Jeff Golick: Hit the nail on the head, @doctorjazz! Great to see you; any shows this weekend?
	🥁 9:18am Listener Gregory: To be honest, contemporary music has generally not given sufficient thought to concrete as a building material. Good to see this oversight being addressed.
	9:19am LP Stevenson: I just watched Get Carter last Saturday. This is vivid.
	9:20am Jeff Golick: Now I desperately want to see it, @LP Stevenson. Hello & welcome!
	9:21am holland oats: jungle concrète
	🥁 9:23am doctorjazz: Went to Nels Cline this past Mondaky at Roulette, great show! .(acoustic guitar, , harp, acoustic bass, voice, went with my daughter). This weekend just family stuff (funeral in Bethesda Maryland yesterday, my niece's engagement party today.lots of driving.
	🥁 9:26am duke: Good morning D:Oers
	🥁 9:26am WR: Damn. A lot going on for you doctorjazz, I just have work and home chores to keep up with and can't keep up.
	9:26am fred: Good morning Jeff and all
	🥁 9:26am doctorjazz: Already went to the Cantor Bandcamp link. Ben Goldberg on clarinet...i really like him (saw him with Boom Tic Boom a few weeks ago).
	9:26am LP Stevenson: Always here for at least the first hour, Jeff. Just not very active in the chat. Love the show!
	9:28am LP Stevenson: If you watch Get Carter, be prepared for some incredible misogyny. Even for the time, it’s out there.
	9:28am Jeff Golick: Morning, @duke! Afternoon, @fred! Yay and good to meet, @LPS.
	🥁 9:29am Listener Gregory: Ben Goldberg had one of my favorite albums of 2015: Orphic Machine. There is poetry, but I promise you, it doesn't hurt a bit.
	9:30am Jeff Golick: Big doings, @doc! I went food shopping yesterday, and mailed a few packages. That was a big day.
	🥁 9:32am hyde: hello!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Appreciate that, @LP Stevenson. Having worked for a publisher that specialized in reissuing older books, I can recognize the difficulty in bringing things from decades ago into the light of current day. There are spy thrillers and such from the 60s and 70s that are just overwhelmingly sexist, to an almost debilitating degree.
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Greets, @hyde!
	9:34am Jeff Golick: I should give Orphic Machine another look, @LG.
	🥁 9:34am doctorjazz: Yeah,kinda pooped half way through, chillin' while I can.
	🥁 9:38am doctorjazz: I like Subatomic Particle Homesick Blues (and I'm a sucker for the album title).
	🥁 9:38am WR: OMG Jeff, are the books actually bowdlerized books clearly marked as such. I have very strong and mixed response to that process.
	9:40am Jeff Golick: @WR: no, we didn't mess with the books at all. Sometimes for things from the 19th century or early 20th there would be a note on the copyright page, but no bowdlerizing.
	9:42am Jeff Golick: In one case I can recall, an author's son went in and cleared up some of the baldly racist stuff that was in the original work. (The original work in this case was The Voyages of Doctor Dolittle.)
	🥁 9:42am doctorjazz: Speaking of albums I like, I found an album on my Pono player I hadn't listened to in a while, Julian Lage's World's Fair. Solo acoustic guitar, really great stuff (to my ears).
	9:42am Jeff Golick: (That Lofting family revision happened in the 1950s or so, I think.)
	9:43am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, greets to the :OUT contingent, and those just happening by.
	9:43am Jeff Golick: ::: furious waving ::: Hi, @Sem!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: As for Ben Goldberg, I am partial to his work on the Jamie Saft record Borscht Belt Studies.
	🥁 9:45am Listener Gregory: Re: Parmegiani, I was just thinking, "This is a bit out of date," and then I saw the date.
	9:46am Jeff Golick: Yeah, funny how our ears can carbon-date electronic music.
	🥁 9:52am WR: I was thinking that new editions of books for youth would be some what justified but that clear notation of changes and why be included and used as tool for further learning. There has always been The Censors looming in publishing, even when authors first getting published but unacknowledged ongoing change of previously published works is a slippery slope. Sorry to go all blah blah on this tangent. My task for this morning is to do something about the nearly 50 pages I open in Chome to band camp and wikipedia pages from playlist links.
	🥁 9:55am WR: Oh, and also try to remember the password for the laptop I reinstalled windows on in September. What was I thinking on that balmy Indian summer day. Clever me always out smarting me. Is tha Ayler? Yes?
	🥁 9:59am Listener Gregory: @WR, I think you're right about the edited versions of books for youth. However, I also think it is important for people to understand how people talked and thought back in the day. I just had an uncomfortable experience reading a Daniel Defoe novel that had episodes in slave-holding Virginia. Defoe was quite enlightened for the time, but even so, his attitudes were ghastly. We shouldn't forget those things.
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: Great set! (Already ordered 2 CDs, man, Jeff...)
	🥁 10:05am WR: Totally agree LGregory. Keep the dreadful parts but flag it and appendicize it with contemporary context.
	🥁 10:10am doctorjazz: This is cool... reminds me a bit of Eugene Chadbourne' s off kilter hybrids.
	10:10am Jeff Golick: Oh, yeah, @doc, that's a great comparison.
	10:19am Andrew Waterloo: Well.. I've been to Trinity Square in Gateshead.. I have walked across the iron bridge as well.
	🥁 10:20am doctorjazz: Ok, dog walking time.
	10:22am Jeff Golick: @Andrew Waterloo, world traveler! Hiya. @doc: happy walking. Give the pooch a scritch for me.
	🥁 10:26am doctorjazz: (Good thing there's no link to this Aiinmusire...man, wow!
	🥁 10:28am doctorjazz: The Bad Plus did a good version of Lithium as well.
	🥁 10:28am hyde: this is quite nice
	10:30am Jeff Golick: Oh yeah, @doc? I don't know that version.
	🥁 10:32am doctorjazz: They did one album with vocalists...a YouTube link for later... youtu.be...
	10:33am fred: @doctorjazz: I guess this show often proves dangerous to your wallet
	🥁 10:34am doctorjazz: @Fred... it's a killer!
	🥁 10:34am WR: BATM! New to me! The have lots on YouTube!
	🥁 10:41am WR: Oh, damn, Black Merda is one of those links I have open pending snagging some for me.
	🥁 10:51am doctorjazz: Nice to hear thus GOF.
	10:52am Dean: Played the entire album yesterday. Used to spin it just about daily.
	🥁 10:54am WR: Mein gott. Econore discog for ~30 $.... this bandcamp thing can be so tempting.
	🥁 10:59am Listener Gregory: Jeff, wouldn't Iyer's comment apply more to genres that are actually popular within the Black community? Maybe it was true in the 1940s, but now?
	11:00am ParUbi: (having a lurk and listen)
	11:04am fred: Borbetomagus! Probably the loudest show I ever attented
	11:04am Jeff Golick: Hello, @ParUbi!
	11:05am Jeff Golick: Here's that Vijay Iyer interview with Kelley: bostonreview.net...
	11:06am Dean: My Borbetomagus story: A few years ago I was in Cambridge, MA, for something or other, and I wanted to visit Weirdo Records, now defunct. I'd been looking for a recording of Borbetomagus and Hijokaidan at Victo, but had never stumbled across it. As I approached the store from about a block away I sensed -- virtually smelled -- the record at Weirdo, which kept a very small inventory. Indeed it was there, and I bought it.
	🥁 11:07am Listener Gregory: Perhaps a senator should have said, "I have a musical question" during the trial--and played this cut. That would have been useful.
	🥁 11:07am hyde: @Dean i loved Weirdo Records
	11:08am Jeff Golick: @Dean! That sixth sense...love it when that happens.
	11:12am Jeff Golick: @LG: (re Iyer) that's certainly true, but still there is the basic (historical?) fact that jazz is Black American music. I suppose it now offers a less complicated proximity, but not that uncomplicated, as recent troubles at WBGO indicate: www.nytimes.com...
	🥁 11:13am Doug Schulkind: The Gang's not all here :-(
	11:14am Dean: I did, too, hyde. Sorry it's gone. At a glance, Vijay Iyer seems ... confused or distracted ... by "nouns that become freighted with people’s agendas." That's understandably a real danger, but then to avoid the confusing distraction one needs to devote one's energies, for a time, not to political advocacy, but to boring stuff like philology. He seems not eager to do that.
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: Not to quibble with Iyer (a Genius Fellow, no), but you could say the same thing about rock, country, Blues, R & B, almost all American music, at least to some extent.
	11:16am Jeff Golick: @Doug: Hi, and well said. :(
	11:19am Jeff Golick: Can anyone out there offer pronunciation help on the Swedish musician Anna Högberg's (playing horn on this YES) last name?
	11:21am fred: I like the "verb instead of nouns" approach, in that it emphasizes action. I remember clearly the acrimony and wasted hours over whether I could claim to be feminist despite being male. I said had no problem being an ally instead, but that lead to more wasted hours over whether that was divisive and demeaning.
	11:26am Dean: Great example, fred. I resolved that question for myself many years ago, thanks to a passage in a footnote in Christine Littleton's "Reconstructing Sexual Equality." She wrote, "I take the experience of living a goodly number of years as a woman to be a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite of feminism. Ergo, on my definition, men would have to give up their class status in some nontemporary way in order to meet the minimum qualifications."
	11:27am Jeff Golick: I promised this a while earlier: here is Bird Is the Worm's best of 2019 list, still in progress -- www.birdistheworm.com...
	11:27am Stork: Umlauts are really tough. It's easier to hear and copy or look at someone's mouth to get the idea of how to form one. Been in Germany 17 years and I still have a long way to Umlaut.
	🥁 11:28am Listener Gregory: @Fred, I find these kinds of disputes discouraging, as they are basically creating arguments among friends, when there are actual enemies and real issues that should be addressed.
	11:29am Jeff Golick: @Stork! Hi! Folks, Stork is getting ready to rock your world at the top of the hour, at this location: wfmu.org...
	11:31am Dean: Per Google Translate (caution!), it's something like: həg - BAYRG
	11:31am Stork: Hey Out-Timers - hope you can get past the bouncers* and into the Club tonight. Special birthday trib to Stan Getz. It started small, but it could Getz outta hand (pause for laughter). *There are no bouncers. Just trying to gin up some fear and excitement.
	11:31am Stork: Thanks, Jeff! Now why can't I remember to do that?
	11:32am Jeff Golick: I think you just did!
	🥁 11:33am Doug Schulkind: Let's ask Greta Thunberg.
	11:34am fred: @Listener Gregory: These stupid disputes also absurdly build community, unless someone takes them too seriously for too long. Anarchists are great at this, if a mob emerges (like 3 people agreeing), it will naturally split. Just shooting the breeze, having each other's back when it counts is what matters
	11:34am Stork: On Umlauts: listen to Kurt Schwitters Ur-Sonate - he does lots of em.
	11:35am Jeff Golick: Big sigh. The Left has a unique ability to spend time parsing the subtleties of language and representation while the Right builds a fortress around us. I'm all for subtlety, but the political process is more boot-on-neck than quill-on-paper. BLEARGH.
	11:35am Jeff Golick: BACK TO THE MUSIC!
	🥁 11:38am Listener Gregory: @Fred: Thät's ït! I'm qüïttïng thïs strëäm änd stärtïng önë wïth ÄLL ümläüts!
	11:39am fred: @Stork: Did your immersion give you insight on the metal umlaut? Especially the one in Spınal Tap
	🥁 11:40am Listener Gregory: (Would have added the epithet running dog imperialists, but that would have required too many umlauts.)
	🥁 11:41am Listener Gregory: This is good "to the barricades" music.
	🥁 11:41am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): leaping into the sonic fray—hello!
	11:42am fred: @LG: Some commenters have used a site that stacks combining diacritics over and under letters for funny but barely legible display (I can't remember the name)
	🥁 11:42am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff, great (expensive) show. On the road soon. Great week all!
	11:43am Jeff Golick: @Granny! Spicy! Tuna! (e/em) -- new pronouns?
	🥁 11:44am Listener Gregory: @fred, my new stream will NOT be funny, I promise.
	🥁 11:46am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): @Jeff: i'm graduating everybody to my correct pronouns, though they/them is always a respectful default, in my book.
	11:47am Dean: Buddy of mine has a new movie premiering at SXSW: https://echoesoftheinvisiblefilm.com/ His first movie, Reach of Resonance, won international awards. It featured Fred Frith, Jon Rose, Miya Masaoka, Bob Ostertag, and John Luther Adams.
	🥁 11:48am Listener Gregory: Well, I was about to leave for a walk, and now "Dark is the Night" comes on. Oy.
	🥁 11:49am doctorjazz: Same here, LG.
	🥁 11:49am Listener Gregory: BTW, I think we could bring together the entire country around the issue of totally eliminating Groundhog Day (the annual event, not the movie). What an annoying farce.
	🥁 11:49am WR: Initial reaction was why place any version besides theme "the original" but quickly followed by, um, wow listen to this...
	11:50am Dean: Oh, shoot, that's right. Today is James Joyce's birthday!
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: @Granny, one criticism I've read of "e" is that it sounds like "he" in actual speech, because the h in he is often barely there.
	🥁 11:52am doctorjazz: This Astroturf Noise crew are right in my sweet spot.
	🥁 11:52am doctorjazz: Jeff! Cut it out!
	🥁 11:53am doctorjazz: (Never heard this Sweet Jane version)
	🥁 11:53am Listener Gregory: Heading to my walk for sure now. Thanks a lot, Jëff!
	🥁 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): @Dean: that movie looks amazing! @Listener Gregory: that's true, some folx pronounce it "ey" but io like the elegance of the Spivak version, and i'd rather be called he than she. (and it's not because i'm not a feminist) <3
	11:54am fred: @GST: You inspired me to use the singular they consistently at work. It went pretty well. Spivak pronouns are a bold step, probably would get in the way of being understood (an issue for me, as a non native speaker)
	11:55am Stork: Sorry Fred - I don't the reference, though I saw Spinal Tap, natch.
	🥁 11:56am Doug Schulkind: The Stork Club is up next, here on your 24-hour Drummer Stream!! Stork's over here: wfmu.org...
	🥁 11:56am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): @fred: so cool! yeah, i can barely imagine the trickiness of unusual pronouns in French!
	11:56am fred: @Stork: A metal umlaut is supposed to be over the "n" in Spinal
	🥁 11:57am WR: LOL, there is a contingency in New York who booed Lou Reed at every appearance I've heard, in person and bootleg, etc.
	🥁 11:57am Doug Schulkind: Guac and roll?
	11:57am fred: @GST: There's no such thing in French. I avoid writing in that language anyway
	🥁 11:57am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em): WR: ha ha!
	🥁 11:58am WR: Ysy, guacamole, that is a team I can root for.
	12:06pm Ike: Ka-boing ka-boing ka-boing

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