WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from July 20, 2020

Listener comments!
	5:47pm BigCat: Gooood evening, WreckedPhonics...!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtookworms!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Hello, Mark! Hello, Techyon Particles! Tech Gin: Poured. What do we need? I think we know. Waldenbooks: I was a proud member of the SF book club there.
	🤖 6:01pm Webhamster Henry: Hi friends! What Fresh Hell Is This?
	6:02pm brainiac: Ready for a tonic for my soul
	6:02pm David in London: Evening Technoids. Hey Handy, ultradamno, webhamster, greetings groovers.
	6:02pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Mark! Techtonicandemics!
	6:03pm Mark Hurst: @BigCat, @ultra, @Handy, @Webham, @brainiac, @DiL, @Bas - greetings to all! Thanks for joining!
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	6:04pm David in London: Hello Monsieur brainiac.
	6:05pm Ike: Hi. Yes, the outdoor dining is rampant, and I think it mostly only works because there's so much less traffic. If there were normal traffic (here in Sunset Park on 5th Ave. anyway) it would be too damn noisy.
	6:05pm Roland, from the Sunshine Coast: Looking forward to today’s story from Mark. Yeeewwww. Where has the Twitscream App been sending us, and what interesting stories has Mark got for us? Enjoy the show.
	6:05pm BigCat: @Webhamster_Henry Hell is always fresh — it's a recursive state of being. :-]
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Same in The Netherlands. Lots of outdoor eating and drinking. With plastic screens between tables.
	🤖 6:06pm tim from champaign (now washington): Howdy! Nice Waldenbook photo.
	6:06pm Dave Miss: Howdy y’all. New York and New Orleans are surprisingly doing well in this.
	6:06pm Petricole: Hello Mark and techtontroverts!
	6:06pm Ed: That Waldenbooks photo brings back memories — not all good!
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: @BigCat "WFHIT?" is how Dorothy Parker used to answer the phone and the door.
	6:07pm Cp304: Good evening peoples
	6:07pm ParUbi: Hey everyone
	6:08pm brainiac: @David In London: HELL OH!
	6:08pm Mark Hurst: @James @Ike, @Roland @Tim @Dave Miss @Petricole @Ed (the Ed?) @Cp304 @ParUbi - great to see all of you here!
	6:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Book 'im Dan-O - 101!
	6:09pm Jeff Golick: Looking forward to this!
	6:09pm Ed: It's me! (Last time I was on FMU was in 2008!)
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hey Jeff, hey RevRabbit, thanks for being with us
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hi Ed Park!! Thanks for joining in!
	🤖 6:11pm Handy Haversack: David! Hoped you were well today when you weren't around for Joe 1-2. Hey, ultradamno! Losing my commute cost me some really dedicated reading time. And, honestly, I have given other time I might have been reading to FMU. I am barely keeping up with my (TTRPG) gaming reading and have an honest backlog of books right now. And the new issue of Salvage is out, which I strongly recommend to listeners of this show. Socialist politics and culture journal out of London; China Mieville and Richard Seymour are founding editors.
	6:11pm Carmichael: Heya Mark and book buyers.
	6:11pm Petricole: We slackin'. Thanks Phil!
	6:11pm chris: Hi, Mark and folks. Another introvert checking in. Currently reading, Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann (read anything, anything by Grann -- amazing story teller of true stories). Next up, Shakespeare for Squirrels by Christopher Moore (total escapism).
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Roald Dahl short stories are excellent. Like super dark Saki.
	6:12pm ultradamno: Hiya Handy! Dahl was an authoritarian spy.
	6:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Here's some judgement ! : If you're not wearing a mask near others - you're an accomplice to mass murder. Time for facts & straight talk. Also - since the only way past it is thru it - if people don't join masks & distancing they're prolonging the whole thing for everyone & throwing all our sacrifices & hardships in the dumpster. Also - we won't just reopen & be the same. Businesses are already going under. 1/3rd of the USA didn't make home payments or rent this month. We need to shut down - wear masks - & give people payments to get thru. The rest is bullish*t.
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Well yes -- but Saki wasn't!
	6:13pm chris: word, RevRab!
	6:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: One problem with Reading is old eyeballs. Apparently there are these things with screens - some quite small! - that exacerbates this situation...
	6:14pm melinda: hi frends!
	6:14pm David in London: Handy, my son was over again, so we were reading in the park and away from WiFi. Still, absence makes the heart grow fonder as they say...
	6:14pm ultradamno: Sauna Youth member Jen Calleja has a terrific book of short work out called I'm Afraid That's All We've Got Time For twitter.com...
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: @chris @Carmichael @melinda good to see you!
	🤖 6:15pm Handy Haversack: We donated 700+ books last winter, and you can't even tell. We live in four small rooms crammed with books and pets. We'll be found dead under a pile of one of those some day.
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: So many books. So many LPs. So many Tapes. SO MANY AUTOHARPS.
	🤖 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and pandomimes. I met my doctor for a check-up recently and mentioned that I was coping quite well. He replied with something like "You're going to live a long, long time." Yay me, I'll get to watch the humans vs. robots wars and the resulting dystopia.
	6:16pm melinda: @Rev I'm pro-mask but calling people murder accomplices won't get them on board
	🤖 6:17pm Handy Haversack: Don't forget the drinking water wars, Ken, and (fingers crossed) rise of the raccoons!
	6:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm a Listener - how my brain is. I like podcasts for that - but some people cannot handle talk... Music, obviously. Read constantly in my youth...love that communion with minds & frankly miss it...
	6:18pm Ed: "As a whole, w-h-o-l-e..."
	6:18pm melinda: I've been doing a lot more listening than reading too. Compiling a reading list though.
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: One of the best novellas I have read: The Only Harmless Great Thing, Brooke Bolander, 2018: us.macmillan.com... Dangers of tech? Check. Narrative broken across time? Check. Elephants? Check.
	6:20pm Andrew Waterloo: The Delacorta books I've been reading could probably be classed as Novellas
	6:21pm diciassette: LOVE Raise Hight the Roof Beam, Carpenters
	6:21pm brainiac: This feels like a perfect day for bananafish.
	6:21pm diciassette: (but not my typing fingers)
	6:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @melinda: Anything else - & authority is providing just about anything else - is denialism. There is a problem being factual & serious in a lethal emergency. I imagine what I say there bring put forward by some responsible authority in another universe.
	🤖 6:21pm Handy Haversack: brainiac, perr-fect.
	6:22pm chris: Ed, are you a fan of Christopher Moore? hilarious, naughty, quick reads, all.
	6:23pm Ed: Chris, no, I haven't read CM but have always suspected he's a lot of fun. Is he on the Douglas Adams wavelength?
	6:24pm P-90: The novella is a specific form, novellas are NOT just “shorter novels.”
	🤖 6:25pm Handy Haversack: Oh, we have published Tanizaki at work. I haven't really read any, though. This sounds like I will have to change that fact.
	6:25pm Ed: @diciasette yeahhhh!!!
	6:25pm Joe McG: Tanizaki is terrific, one of my favorites.
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: @Ed, did you say the title of Tanizaki?
	6:26pm David in London: Edgar Allen Poe, Stoke Newington in the house!
	6:26pm Ed: Not sure why I free-associated to THE MIST but...
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: THE MIST was made into a 3d-audio radio show!
	6:26pm chris: well, perhaps not as philosophical as Adams, but certainly adept at the ridiculous, intelligently told tale. i do recommend him.
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Joe McG, let me get you some Tanizaki from work -- a gift!
	6:27pm P-90: The Mist was made into a pretty damn good theatrical feature by Frank (Shawshank Redemption) Darabont.
	6:27pm David in London: Poe was very influential on another Japanese writer, Egogawa Rampo (say it quickly), who wrote some great mystery fiction.
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @Handy send one to chopped liver, too!
	6:28pm Joe McG: @Handy: Wow, if you want to make this Skeleton happy, that would certainly do it! :)
	6:28pm Ed: The only King-as-Bachman book I read was THINNER (which came out long after he'd dispensed w/the pseudonym). It was...fine! // Side note: Anyone watch the Cronenberg/Walken DEAD ZONE movie lately? (It holds up!)
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: Also hi, Joe McGasko! Great show today.
	6:28pm P-90: Good call @Call Screener Phil!
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: For you two DJs, anything! Expect e-mails.
	6:29pm Ed: @HandyHaversack -- I don't know! I hope I did. It's DEVILS IN DAYLIGHT. (There's a link to the left - do you work at New Directions?)
	6:29pm Roland, from the Sunshine Coast: I enjoy Novella’s immensely, and although ancient I’d recommend True Grit by Charles Portis and The Machine Stops by E M Forster, I certainly did. Check out “The Body” by Stephen King.
	6:29pm brainiac: @Handy Haversack 6:20: I'm taking your recommendation to heart.
	6:29pm Barney Grubbs: My Uncle Oswald is very entertaining.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Well, King has three super big ones, that I think are his worst. I like Carrie the best and there's a great short story called The Cat From Hell. His short stories are his best work, he need to be kept focused in my opinion.
	6:30pm melinda: @Ed I've wanted to re-watch The Dead Zone, haven't seen it since it was in theaters.
	6:30pm Jeff Golick: I've been eyeballing True Grit on the shelf, @Roland; it's the only Portis I haven't read, oddly.
	🤖 6:30pm Handy Haversack: brainiac, I really don't think you'll regret it! @Ed: No, I work for a university press. We didn't do that one. But we have done a couple!
	6:30pm Ed: Hey @Roland -- I'll be doing a True Grit read along for the literary journal A PUBLIC SPACE at the start of Sept. -- more details here! https://apublicspace.org/events/detail/ed-park-charles-portis
	6:31pm ultradamno: True Grit is a delight of a novel!
	🤖 6:32pm Handy Haversack: If anyone wants weirdly bizarre and horrific but really pretty relatable to right now, Clive Barker's long short story "In the Hills, the Cities" is ... rough. But really well done.
	6:32pm Ed: Hi @melinda - I haven't watched it since ...the mid '80s... I liked it even more now, Walken is just amazing...And Martin Sheen is in it, he's terrific!
	6:33pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks! But please give Joe McG precedence :)
	6:33pm Barney Grubbs: Just read True Grit last month--it was very enjoyable
	6:34pm Joe McG: @Handy: Oh, no! "Hurst First" is my slogan! :) Also love Adrian Tomine and "Optic Nerve," so excited to hear about his new book.
	6:34pm P-90: True Grit is a classic, very well done.
	6:35pm Ed: @ultradamno "Strawberry Spring," in Night Shift, is my favorite story of his.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: Yeah I remember Tomine from his very beginnings!
	🤖 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Joe and Mark, don't worry -- there's room on the horse for two.
	6:35pm ultradamno: To get us away from Dahl (hopefully) may I recommend Neil Gaiman. I like The Ocean At The End Of The Lane a lot. Also, Denton Welch is a great, underappreciated writer, try In Youth Is Pleasure. An influence on WS Burroughs, but you wouldn't guess it.
	6:37pm WR: Interesting show. I have been working from home since spring of 2018. Before the pandemic besides required shopping I only went out once or twice a week to a restaurant and nearly every week to the library. Now that the library is re-opening for pickup my routine is nearly back except we did used to go to live music a few times a year. I've not had any slowdown in my work hours. My wife (who has been working from home since the lock down) has complained that I'm near addicted to WFMU playlist comments and reacts if I go to my phone during meals or if we are talking.
	6:37pm dave miss: Two books I enjoyed, that are non-fiction, are High on the Hog by Jessica Harris about the culinary connection between Africa and America, and She Has Her Mother's Laugh by Carl Zimmer about Heredity
	6:38pm brainiac: @Ed: Yes, "Strawberry Spring" is terrific.
	6:38pm ultradamno: In terms of graphic novels, how available are Raw Graphics Magazine stuff these days. Mindblowing. R. Crumb has really good Kafka book.
	🤖 6:38pm Webhamster Henry: I keep going back to Italo Calvino, Angela Carter, and also read plays in "Best of 19xx" anthologies.
	🤖 6:38pm Handy Haversack: Running out of food is a classic D&D scenario. I have read (and used) some great tables on what happens when you end up eating what you kill deep in the weird lands. And I have had to come up with a lot of rulings on the fly for this stuff. But I had not heard of that, Mark -- and it's going on the list!
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: LISTENERS: I could use help (a la the 'movies' show) compiling all the book recommendations: from the interview, from the playlist at left, and from the comments here. Anyone up for it??
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: I've put a bunch of Ed's (and my) recommendations on the playlist, but I might have missed a couple.
	🤖 6:39pm Handy Haversack: Sure, Mark, I can help if you want.
	6:39pm Ed: oh god I sound so old
	6:39pm P-90: @Webhamster: yes! Calvino is addictive.
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: C'mon, you sound great, Ed
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thank you in advance!
	🤖 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: Maybe the station can host listeners' short stories. The White House people are suggesting that we Try Something New.
	6:41pm brainiac: @Handy: Don't forget the 10 gp worth of charcoal, incense, and herbs that must be consumed by fire in a brass brazier.
	6:41pm David in London: Ultradamno, Welch was no mean painter, too. Studied at Goldsmiths College, where I also went. V talented chap.
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: @brainiac, I assume you know I would NEVER let them forget that.
	6:42pm brainiac: blushing
	6:42pm ultradamno: Tom Disch's Camp Concentration is one of the best Sci Fi novels I could name. Greg Bear's Forge of God books are as good a end of the world as you could ask for.
	6:43pm Ed: @brainiac There's another S.K. story that I think is great..."The Last Rung on the Ladder."
	🤖 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: Adriene took us through Rings of Saturn.
	🤖 6:43pm Handy Haversack: But Rings of Saturn is his best by far, far, far. Adriene's Rings of Saturn series was some just next-level radio.
	6:44pm ultradamno: @DiL YES! His book cover tend to be decorated with his work A cat of his www.elisarolle.com...
	6:44pm Ed: Rings is so great.
	6:44pm Mark Hurst: I also give credit to Joe McG for encouraging me toward Rings of Saturn. Ed + Joe = solid gold recommendations
	6:45pm Ed: @ultradamno will check out D.W., wow!
	6:45pm Marcel M: Took me around 2 years for Proust as well with breaks in between volumes.
	6:45pm David in London: Handy, I love Rings... but actually always preferred Vertigo which seemed to me to really mine a deep seam of terror.
	6:45pm WR: One of my favorite books is a collection of Proust short stories.
	6:45pm Mark Hurst: @Marcel reading Marcel!
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: @ultradamno I agree with Greg Bear, and the well cooked SF from Kim Stanley Robinson.
	6:46pm brainiac: @Ed: It's been many years, but "The Ledge" is still one of my favorite short stories of all time.
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Maybe to distinguish the book from a non-fiction work?
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: I should read Wm. Gibson again, it's either prophetic or pathetically dated.
	6:46pm Ed: deepfakes - there was a terrific review by Jonathan Dee of the new David Mitchell novel where he uses "deepfake" (first time I've seen it in a book review).
	6:46pm joe mulligan: during heavy times I like to read light-hearted sociology books. I just got in the mail today a hardcover of Humankind A Hopeful History by rutger Bregman
	6:47pm ultradamno: My local book shop growing up was called Readmore.
	6:47pm Ed: @brainiac that one is good, too!
	6:47pm P-90: Thanks, Ed Park!
	🤖 6:48pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, WHH, I'm a huge KSR fan. Not every book, but the ones that are spot on are so good. (Really, I think I just dislike 2312.) DIL ... hmph! OK. Will revisit with open mind!
	6:48pm Ed: @P-90 Thanks for listening!
	6:49pm Carmichael: For some reason, I've been deep in Nordic detective novels. I prefer them to reality ...
	6:49pm chris: yeah, that Gibson is on my short list. thanks for the reminder! thanks, Ed! great interview.
	6:49pm Barney Grubbs: Another good read if you can find a copy is "Pissing in the Snow" by Vance Randolph. Basically a bunch of dirty Ozark country jokes done up in a semi-academic monograph with footnotes and everything.
	6:50pm David in London: There’s a really good Sebald / Rings of Saturn documentary called ‘Patience (After Sebald)’ for them that wants. Haven’t checked but it may be available online.
	🤖 6:51pm Webhamster Henry: You can read SCHNOZZOLA: Durante's autobio.
	6:51pm kevlicki: Wanting to say Hi everyone, but I’ll have to check out the show on the archives. Silly errands went longer than expected
	6:52pm Ed: Mark, you should do an all-Proust Techtonic! / @chris thank you / @David - I haven't seen it, will check it out. (Have you ever seen this thing called Robinson in Space, from 1997? It felt so Sebaldian....)
	6:52pm ultradamno: Really exposing the resentment between the Checks and Not Check Haves
	6:52pm kevlicki: Handy- i haven’t been the biggest sci-if reader but I do enjoy KSR as well
	6:52pm Mark Hurst: @Ed don't tempt me! (Though sounds fun. Not sure if listeners would find that interesting or not -??)
	🤖 6:53pm Ken From Hyde Park: Nick the Bard's show's closing is "Read a book!"
	6:53pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP ah didn't know that, thanks - I like Nick's show but guess I haven't heard the outtro
	6:53pm ultradamno: Have Check Nots?
	6:54pm David in London: Ed, yes, that’s a favourite of mine, along with the preceding part one called ‘London’, from a couple of years earlier. Robinson is a strange ongoing character from London fiction, also used by a great writer / film maker called Chris Petit.
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Will once again argue that the only appropriate book for this and all other end-time crises is LINT by Aylett.
	6:55pm WR: Didn't know the verified accounts were temporarily shutdown. Funny Twitter responses.
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Most notable maybe is it seems to be an inside job with Twitter. Always the weakest point.
	6:56pm ultradamno: Ever see the show Blindspot...landmark hacking magic "I'm in" scenes.
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: "Wool" by Hugh Howey is a fun dystopian novel about lockdown (in a post-apocalyptic scenario)
	6:56pm Ed: @David - hold the phone! I was like, wait, that sounds familiar....and it turns out I did see it! I just found my notes from a screening in 2011. But I don't remember it well at all....(which in itself feels perversely Sebaldian...) http://thedizzies.blogspot.com/2011/12/notes-from-screening-of-grant-gees.html
	6:56pm Ike: I liked a novella called "All Systems Red" (first book in the Murderbot Diaries series) by Martha Wells. Maybe it's not innovative but it's exciting, enjoyable, and easy to read.
	6:56pm Ed: (And - I did not realize Robinson was an ongoing character...wow!)
	🤖 6:56pm Handy Haversack: Also: Thanks, Mark! Thanks, Ed. Always necessary. Always excellent. This show is a highlight.
	6:57pm chris: thanks, Mark! great show, again. :)
	6:57pm Stillwell Coney Islander: Card - carrying introvert here ! I Love Lockdown!
	6:57pm David in London: Ed, time for a reviewing..! Thanks Mark.
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! I feel inspired to pick up a book again! It's been a while.
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: Ed Park, thanks for being with us this evening!
	6:58pm holland oats: Antkind is fun
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @Handy @Stillwell @Bas @P-90 I appreciate it!
	6:58pm ultradamno: Thanks Mark! Skeletons!
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Ed. Reading is fundamental!
	6:59pm WR: Thank you Mark. Curious show today, very entertaining. But you're making my reading list so long, getting to the point of not in my lifetime.
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: @WR heh good - that's the aim.. thanks :)
	7:00pm Petricole: Appreciated the show today! Needed that reminder to take a break from the endless supply of existential dread-inducing content now and again. Thanks Ed, thanks Mark, thanks crew! Take care.
	7:01pm Mark Hurst: Glad it helped, Petricole - thanks for being with us

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from July 20, 2020

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July 20, 2020: Ed Park, author of "Personal Days," on reading during a pandemic

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Tonight: Ed Park, author of "Personal Days," on reading during a pandemic

Pointers:

• Personal Days (Ed's 2008 debut novel)

• Ed's recent articles, listed on linktree

• New Work From Two Masters of the Graphic Novel - referenced in Mark's intro - by Ed Park (NYT Book Review, July 17)

• In These Elegant Comics, Love and Darkness Collide - referenced in the interview, as Mark mentions the "dark panels" (by Ed in the NYT Book Review, Feb 14). Ed also mentions his review of Grass from When George Takei Was Imprisoned in an American Internment Camp (NYT Book Review, Sept 9, 2019).

• Ed's New Yorker contributions

• Astral Weeks: A Secret History of 1968, now in paperback (by Ryan Walsh, edited by Ed)

• Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters by J.D. Salinger

• Martian Dawn and Other Novels, by Michael Friedman

• Devils in Daylight, by Junichiro Tanizaki

• Skeleton Crew and The Bachman Books, by Stephen King

• My Uncle Oswald, by Roald Dahl

• Delicious in Dungeon by Ryoko Kui

• They Never Forget (by Ed Park in the Village Voice, December 20, 2005): a profile of Rachel Ingalls, author of the short novel Mrs. Caliban

• Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode based on Roald Dahl's "The Man from the South"

• Twitter posts in the wake of the hack: Molly Redden, Tim Murphy, and @edsbs

• Casey and Strick: Read A Book

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Listener comments!
	5:47pm BigCat: Gooood evening, WreckedPhonics...!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtookworms!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Hello, Mark! Hello, Techyon Particles! Tech Gin: Poured. What do we need? I think we know. Waldenbooks: I was a proud member of the SF book club there.
	🤖 6:01pm Webhamster Henry: Hi friends! What Fresh Hell Is This?
	6:02pm brainiac: Ready for a tonic for my soul
	6:02pm David in London: Evening Technoids. Hey Handy, ultradamno, webhamster, greetings groovers.
	6:02pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Mark! Techtonicandemics!
	6:03pm Mark Hurst: @BigCat, @ultra, @Handy, @Webham, @brainiac, @DiL, @Bas - greetings to all! Thanks for joining!
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	6:04pm David in London: Hello Monsieur brainiac.
	6:05pm Ike: Hi. Yes, the outdoor dining is rampant, and I think it mostly only works because there's so much less traffic. If there were normal traffic (here in Sunset Park on 5th Ave. anyway) it would be too damn noisy.
	6:05pm Roland, from the Sunshine Coast: Looking forward to today’s story from Mark. Yeeewwww. Where has the Twitscream App been sending us, and what interesting stories has Mark got for us? Enjoy the show.
	6:05pm BigCat: @Webhamster_Henry Hell is always fresh — it's a recursive state of being. :-]
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Same in The Netherlands. Lots of outdoor eating and drinking. With plastic screens between tables.
	🤖 6:06pm tim from champaign (now washington): Howdy! Nice Waldenbook photo.
	6:06pm Dave Miss: Howdy y’all. New York and New Orleans are surprisingly doing well in this.
	6:06pm Petricole: Hello Mark and techtontroverts!
	6:06pm Ed: That Waldenbooks photo brings back memories — not all good!
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: @BigCat "WFHIT?" is how Dorothy Parker used to answer the phone and the door.
	6:07pm Cp304: Good evening peoples
	6:07pm ParUbi: Hey everyone
	6:08pm brainiac: @David In London: HELL OH!
	6:08pm Mark Hurst: @James @Ike, @Roland @Tim @Dave Miss @Petricole @Ed (the Ed?) @Cp304 @ParUbi - great to see all of you here!
	6:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Book 'im Dan-O - 101!
	6:09pm Jeff Golick: Looking forward to this!
	6:09pm Ed: It's me! (Last time I was on FMU was in 2008!)
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hey Jeff, hey RevRabbit, thanks for being with us
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hi Ed Park!! Thanks for joining in!
	🤖 6:11pm Handy Haversack: David! Hoped you were well today when you weren't around for Joe 1-2. Hey, ultradamno! Losing my commute cost me some really dedicated reading time. And, honestly, I have given other time I might have been reading to FMU. I am barely keeping up with my (TTRPG) gaming reading and have an honest backlog of books right now. And the new issue of Salvage is out, which I strongly recommend to listeners of this show. Socialist politics and culture journal out of London; China Mieville and Richard Seymour are founding editors.
	6:11pm Carmichael: Heya Mark and book buyers.
	6:11pm Petricole: We slackin'. Thanks Phil!
	6:11pm chris: Hi, Mark and folks. Another introvert checking in. Currently reading, Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann (read anything, anything by Grann -- amazing story teller of true stories). Next up, Shakespeare for Squirrels by Christopher Moore (total escapism).
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Roald Dahl short stories are excellent. Like super dark Saki.
	6:12pm ultradamno: Hiya Handy! Dahl was an authoritarian spy.
	6:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Here's some judgement ! : If you're not wearing a mask near others - you're an accomplice to mass murder. Time for facts & straight talk. Also - since the only way past it is thru it - if people don't join masks & distancing they're prolonging the whole thing for everyone & throwing all our sacrifices & hardships in the dumpster. Also - we won't just reopen & be the same. Businesses are already going under. 1/3rd of the USA didn't make home payments or rent this month. We need to shut down - wear masks - & give people payments to get thru. The rest is bullish*t.
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Well yes -- but Saki wasn't!
	6:13pm chris: word, RevRab!
	6:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: One problem with Reading is old eyeballs. Apparently there are these things with screens - some quite small! - that exacerbates this situation...
	6:14pm melinda: hi frends!
	6:14pm David in London: Handy, my son was over again, so we were reading in the park and away from WiFi. Still, absence makes the heart grow fonder as they say...
	6:14pm ultradamno: Sauna Youth member Jen Calleja has a terrific book of short work out called I'm Afraid That's All We've Got Time For twitter.com...
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: @chris @Carmichael @melinda good to see you!
	🤖 6:15pm Handy Haversack: We donated 700+ books last winter, and you can't even tell. We live in four small rooms crammed with books and pets. We'll be found dead under a pile of one of those some day.
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: So many books. So many LPs. So many Tapes. SO MANY AUTOHARPS.
	🤖 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and pandomimes. I met my doctor for a check-up recently and mentioned that I was coping quite well. He replied with something like "You're going to live a long, long time." Yay me, I'll get to watch the humans vs. robots wars and the resulting dystopia.
	6:16pm melinda: @Rev I'm pro-mask but calling people murder accomplices won't get them on board
	🤖 6:17pm Handy Haversack: Don't forget the drinking water wars, Ken, and (fingers crossed) rise of the raccoons!
	6:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm a Listener - how my brain is. I like podcasts for that - but some people cannot handle talk... Music, obviously. Read constantly in my youth...love that communion with minds & frankly miss it...
	6:18pm Ed: "As a whole, w-h-o-l-e..."
	6:18pm melinda: I've been doing a lot more listening than reading too. Compiling a reading list though.
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: One of the best novellas I have read: The Only Harmless Great Thing, Brooke Bolander, 2018: us.macmillan.com... Dangers of tech? Check. Narrative broken across time? Check. Elephants? Check.
	6:20pm Andrew Waterloo: The Delacorta books I've been reading could probably be classed as Novellas
	6:21pm diciassette: LOVE Raise Hight the Roof Beam, Carpenters
	6:21pm brainiac: This feels like a perfect day for bananafish.
	6:21pm diciassette: (but not my typing fingers)
	6:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @melinda: Anything else - & authority is providing just about anything else - is denialism. There is a problem being factual & serious in a lethal emergency. I imagine what I say there bring put forward by some responsible authority in another universe.
	🤖 6:21pm Handy Haversack: brainiac, perr-fect.
	6:22pm chris: Ed, are you a fan of Christopher Moore? hilarious, naughty, quick reads, all.
	6:23pm Ed: Chris, no, I haven't read CM but have always suspected he's a lot of fun. Is he on the Douglas Adams wavelength?
	6:24pm P-90: The novella is a specific form, novellas are NOT just “shorter novels.”
	🤖 6:25pm Handy Haversack: Oh, we have published Tanizaki at work. I haven't really read any, though. This sounds like I will have to change that fact.
	6:25pm Ed: @diciasette yeahhhh!!!
	6:25pm Joe McG: Tanizaki is terrific, one of my favorites.
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: @Ed, did you say the title of Tanizaki?
	6:26pm David in London: Edgar Allen Poe, Stoke Newington in the house!
	6:26pm Ed: Not sure why I free-associated to THE MIST but...
	🤖 6:26pm Webhamster Henry: THE MIST was made into a 3d-audio radio show!
	6:26pm chris: well, perhaps not as philosophical as Adams, but certainly adept at the ridiculous, intelligently told tale. i do recommend him.
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Joe McG, let me get you some Tanizaki from work -- a gift!
	6:27pm P-90: The Mist was made into a pretty damn good theatrical feature by Frank (Shawshank Redemption) Darabont.
	6:27pm David in London: Poe was very influential on another Japanese writer, Egogawa Rampo (say it quickly), who wrote some great mystery fiction.
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @Handy send one to chopped liver, too!
	6:28pm Joe McG: @Handy: Wow, if you want to make this Skeleton happy, that would certainly do it! :)
	6:28pm Ed: The only King-as-Bachman book I read was THINNER (which came out long after he'd dispensed w/the pseudonym). It was...fine! // Side note: Anyone watch the Cronenberg/Walken DEAD ZONE movie lately? (It holds up!)
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: Also hi, Joe McGasko! Great show today.
	6:28pm P-90: Good call @Call Screener Phil!
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: For you two DJs, anything! Expect e-mails.
	6:29pm Ed: @HandyHaversack -- I don't know! I hope I did. It's DEVILS IN DAYLIGHT. (There's a link to the left - do you work at New Directions?)
	6:29pm Roland, from the Sunshine Coast: I enjoy Novella’s immensely, and although ancient I’d recommend True Grit by Charles Portis and The Machine Stops by E M Forster, I certainly did. Check out “The Body” by Stephen King.
	6:29pm brainiac: @Handy Haversack 6:20: I'm taking your recommendation to heart.
	6:29pm Barney Grubbs: My Uncle Oswald is very entertaining.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Well, King has three super big ones, that I think are his worst. I like Carrie the best and there's a great short story called The Cat From Hell. His short stories are his best work, he need to be kept focused in my opinion.
	6:30pm melinda: @Ed I've wanted to re-watch The Dead Zone, haven't seen it since it was in theaters.
	6:30pm Jeff Golick: I've been eyeballing True Grit on the shelf, @Roland; it's the only Portis I haven't read, oddly.
	🤖 6:30pm Handy Haversack: brainiac, I really don't think you'll regret it! @Ed: No, I work for a university press. We didn't do that one. But we have done a couple!
	6:30pm Ed: Hey @Roland -- I'll be doing a True Grit read along for the literary journal A PUBLIC SPACE at the start of Sept. -- more details here! https://apublicspace.org/events/detail/ed-park-charles-portis
	6:31pm ultradamno: True Grit is a delight of a novel!
	🤖 6:32pm Handy Haversack: If anyone wants weirdly bizarre and horrific but really pretty relatable to right now, Clive Barker's long short story "In the Hills, the Cities" is ... rough. But really well done.
	6:32pm Ed: Hi @melinda - I haven't watched it since ...the mid '80s... I liked it even more now, Walken is just amazing...And Martin Sheen is in it, he's terrific!
	6:33pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks! But please give Joe McG precedence :)
	6:33pm Barney Grubbs: Just read True Grit last month--it was very enjoyable
	6:34pm Joe McG: @Handy: Oh, no! "Hurst First" is my slogan! :) Also love Adrian Tomine and "Optic Nerve," so excited to hear about his new book.
	6:34pm P-90: True Grit is a classic, very well done.
	6:35pm Ed: @ultradamno "Strawberry Spring," in Night Shift, is my favorite story of his.
	🤖 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: Yeah I remember Tomine from his very beginnings!
	🤖 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Joe and Mark, don't worry -- there's room on the horse for two.
	6:35pm ultradamno: To get us away from Dahl (hopefully) may I recommend Neil Gaiman. I like The Ocean At The End Of The Lane a lot. Also, Denton Welch is a great, underappreciated writer, try In Youth Is Pleasure. An influence on WS Burroughs, but you wouldn't guess it.
	6:37pm WR: Interesting show. I have been working from home since spring of 2018. Before the pandemic besides required shopping I only went out once or twice a week to a restaurant and nearly every week to the library. Now that the library is re-opening for pickup my routine is nearly back except we did used to go to live music a few times a year. I've not had any slowdown in my work hours. My wife (who has been working from home since the lock down) has complained that I'm near addicted to WFMU playlist comments and reacts if I go to my phone during meals or if we are talking.
	6:37pm dave miss: Two books I enjoyed, that are non-fiction, are High on the Hog by Jessica Harris about the culinary connection between Africa and America, and She Has Her Mother's Laugh by Carl Zimmer about Heredity
	6:38pm brainiac: @Ed: Yes, "Strawberry Spring" is terrific.
	6:38pm ultradamno: In terms of graphic novels, how available are Raw Graphics Magazine stuff these days. Mindblowing. R. Crumb has really good Kafka book.
	🤖 6:38pm Webhamster Henry: I keep going back to Italo Calvino, Angela Carter, and also read plays in "Best of 19xx" anthologies.
	🤖 6:38pm Handy Haversack: Running out of food is a classic D&D scenario. I have read (and used) some great tables on what happens when you end up eating what you kill deep in the weird lands. And I have had to come up with a lot of rulings on the fly for this stuff. But I had not heard of that, Mark -- and it's going on the list!
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: LISTENERS: I could use help (a la the 'movies' show) compiling all the book recommendations: from the interview, from the playlist at left, and from the comments here. Anyone up for it??
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: I've put a bunch of Ed's (and my) recommendations on the playlist, but I might have missed a couple.
	🤖 6:39pm Handy Haversack: Sure, Mark, I can help if you want.
	6:39pm Ed: oh god I sound so old
	6:39pm P-90: @Webhamster: yes! Calvino is addictive.
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: C'mon, you sound great, Ed
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thank you in advance!
	🤖 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: Maybe the station can host listeners' short stories. The White House people are suggesting that we Try Something New.
	6:41pm brainiac: @Handy: Don't forget the 10 gp worth of charcoal, incense, and herbs that must be consumed by fire in a brass brazier.
	6:41pm David in London: Ultradamno, Welch was no mean painter, too. Studied at Goldsmiths College, where I also went. V talented chap.
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: @brainiac, I assume you know I would NEVER let them forget that.
	6:42pm brainiac: blushing
	6:42pm ultradamno: Tom Disch's Camp Concentration is one of the best Sci Fi novels I could name. Greg Bear's Forge of God books are as good a end of the world as you could ask for.
	6:43pm Ed: @brainiac There's another S.K. story that I think is great..."The Last Rung on the Ladder."
	🤖 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: Adriene took us through Rings of Saturn.
	🤖 6:43pm Handy Haversack: But Rings of Saturn is his best by far, far, far. Adriene's Rings of Saturn series was some just next-level radio.
	6:44pm ultradamno: @DiL YES! His book cover tend to be decorated with his work A cat of his www.elisarolle.com...
	6:44pm Ed: Rings is so great.
	6:44pm Mark Hurst: I also give credit to Joe McG for encouraging me toward Rings of Saturn. Ed + Joe = solid gold recommendations
	6:45pm Ed: @ultradamno will check out D.W., wow!
	6:45pm Marcel M: Took me around 2 years for Proust as well with breaks in between volumes.
	6:45pm David in London: Handy, I love Rings... but actually always preferred Vertigo which seemed to me to really mine a deep seam of terror.
	6:45pm WR: One of my favorite books is a collection of Proust short stories.
	6:45pm Mark Hurst: @Marcel reading Marcel!
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: @ultradamno I agree with Greg Bear, and the well cooked SF from Kim Stanley Robinson.
	6:46pm brainiac: @Ed: It's been many years, but "The Ledge" is still one of my favorite short stories of all time.
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Maybe to distinguish the book from a non-fiction work?
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: I should read Wm. Gibson again, it's either prophetic or pathetically dated.
	6:46pm Ed: deepfakes - there was a terrific review by Jonathan Dee of the new David Mitchell novel where he uses "deepfake" (first time I've seen it in a book review).
	6:46pm joe mulligan: during heavy times I like to read light-hearted sociology books. I just got in the mail today a hardcover of Humankind A Hopeful History by rutger Bregman
	6:47pm ultradamno: My local book shop growing up was called Readmore.
	6:47pm Ed: @brainiac that one is good, too!
	6:47pm P-90: Thanks, Ed Park!
	🤖 6:48pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, WHH, I'm a huge KSR fan. Not every book, but the ones that are spot on are so good. (Really, I think I just dislike 2312.) DIL ... hmph! OK. Will revisit with open mind!
	6:48pm Ed: @P-90 Thanks for listening!
	6:49pm Carmichael: For some reason, I've been deep in Nordic detective novels. I prefer them to reality ...
	6:49pm chris: yeah, that Gibson is on my short list. thanks for the reminder! thanks, Ed! great interview.
	6:49pm Barney Grubbs: Another good read if you can find a copy is "Pissing in the Snow" by Vance Randolph. Basically a bunch of dirty Ozark country jokes done up in a semi-academic monograph with footnotes and everything.
	6:50pm David in London: There’s a really good Sebald / Rings of Saturn documentary called ‘Patience (After Sebald)’ for them that wants. Haven’t checked but it may be available online.
	🤖 6:51pm Webhamster Henry: You can read SCHNOZZOLA: Durante's autobio.
	6:51pm kevlicki: Wanting to say Hi everyone, but I’ll have to check out the show on the archives. Silly errands went longer than expected
	6:52pm Ed: Mark, you should do an all-Proust Techtonic! / @chris thank you / @David - I haven't seen it, will check it out. (Have you ever seen this thing called Robinson in Space, from 1997? It felt so Sebaldian....)
	6:52pm ultradamno: Really exposing the resentment between the Checks and Not Check Haves
	6:52pm kevlicki: Handy- i haven’t been the biggest sci-if reader but I do enjoy KSR as well
	6:52pm Mark Hurst: @Ed don't tempt me! (Though sounds fun. Not sure if listeners would find that interesting or not -??)
	🤖 6:53pm Ken From Hyde Park: Nick the Bard's show's closing is "Read a book!"
	6:53pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP ah didn't know that, thanks - I like Nick's show but guess I haven't heard the outtro
	6:53pm ultradamno: Have Check Nots?
	6:54pm David in London: Ed, yes, that’s a favourite of mine, along with the preceding part one called ‘London’, from a couple of years earlier. Robinson is a strange ongoing character from London fiction, also used by a great writer / film maker called Chris Petit.
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Will once again argue that the only appropriate book for this and all other end-time crises is LINT by Aylett.
	6:55pm WR: Didn't know the verified accounts were temporarily shutdown. Funny Twitter responses.
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Most notable maybe is it seems to be an inside job with Twitter. Always the weakest point.
	6:56pm ultradamno: Ever see the show Blindspot...landmark hacking magic "I'm in" scenes.
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: "Wool" by Hugh Howey is a fun dystopian novel about lockdown (in a post-apocalyptic scenario)
	6:56pm Ed: @David - hold the phone! I was like, wait, that sounds familiar....and it turns out I did see it! I just found my notes from a screening in 2011. But I don't remember it well at all....(which in itself feels perversely Sebaldian...) http://thedizzies.blogspot.com/2011/12/notes-from-screening-of-grant-gees.html
	6:56pm Ike: I liked a novella called "All Systems Red" (first book in the Murderbot Diaries series) by Martha Wells. Maybe it's not innovative but it's exciting, enjoyable, and easy to read.
	6:56pm Ed: (And - I did not realize Robinson was an ongoing character...wow!)
	🤖 6:56pm Handy Haversack: Also: Thanks, Mark! Thanks, Ed. Always necessary. Always excellent. This show is a highlight.
	6:57pm chris: thanks, Mark! great show, again. :)
	6:57pm Stillwell Coney Islander: Card - carrying introvert here ! I Love Lockdown!
	6:57pm David in London: Ed, time for a reviewing..! Thanks Mark.
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! I feel inspired to pick up a book again! It's been a while.
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: Ed Park, thanks for being with us this evening!
	6:58pm holland oats: Antkind is fun
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @Handy @Stillwell @Bas @P-90 I appreciate it!
	6:58pm ultradamno: Thanks Mark! Skeletons!
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Ed. Reading is fundamental!
	6:59pm WR: Thank you Mark. Curious show today, very entertaining. But you're making my reading list so long, getting to the point of not in my lifetime.
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: @WR heh good - that's the aim.. thanks :)
	7:00pm Petricole: Appreciated the show today! Needed that reminder to take a break from the endless supply of existential dread-inducing content now and again. Thanks Ed, thanks Mark, thanks crew! Take care.
	7:01pm Mark Hurst: Glad it helped, Petricole - thanks for being with us

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