WFMU: Downtown Soulville with Mr. Fine Wine: Playlist from October 30, 2020

Listener comments!
	8:01pm ultradamno: MFW! Northern soulvillagers!
	8:02pm DjLorraine: I made it in
	8:02pm Mr. Fine Wine: Heya, folks!
	8:03pm loveless: Regarding Northern Soul, resistance is futile. Hello everyone.
	8:03pm Krypt PX: Do the boo-galoo👻
	8:04pm JtotheK: Looking forward to this one! I’ve a soft spot for northern soul crooners and such ... Paul Anka “I Can’t Help Loving You”, Boots Randolph “Take A Letter Maria” etc...
	8:05pm ChasG: North, South, East, West...if it's good, it's good.
	🍷 8:05pm chresti: Hi Mr. Fine Wine and downtowners!
	8:06pm ultradamno: Your pumpkins look extra spooky on this page. They're ghosts of jack o lanterns past.
	8:07pm Beep: Beep
	🍷 8:07pm chresti: They're scarier that way.
	8:13pm mariano: Hey MFW, Crew, fine-winos!
	8:13pm Little Danny: Looking forward to the show. Hi all!
	8:14pm mariano: Love how the orange wallpaper turns the Hellraiser jack-o-lanterns into ghost faces.
	8:14pm JtotheK: Back in August read “The Truth About Northern Soul - Unpacking the Myths” by Stephen Riley, a dude who was on the scene in its infancy.
	8:14pm ChasG: It seems that if you're name is Otis you automatically have 50/50 shot at making a great record.
	8:15pm ChasG: *your
	8:18pm Uncle Michael: Hello. Check out my hip drop.
	8:18pm Krypt PX: 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
	8:19pm Joe R.: I read Stuart Cosgrove’s Young Soul Rebels book on Northern Soul recently and found it pretty interesting. I liked his Detroit ‘67 book too...
	8:19pm Little Danny: Confusingly the preponderance of northern soul is actually from the northern United States.
	8:22pm JtotheK: Oh yeah that Northern Soul movie was ok. I saw it on Netflix, not sure if still available or not...
	8:23pm Gaylord Fields: @Little Danny: Yeah, hence the confusion. To extrapolate from what MFW said, if template-setting label Motown had for some reason been based in Memphis, it still would be called Northern Soul.
	8:23pm Uncle Michael: The story was thin, basically an excuse to depict the scene, which I'm led to believe the filmmakers did a good job with.
	8:24pm JtotheK: And it includes all genres - Dolly Parton “Busy Signal” for example.
	8:24pm luca: the dancing scene of northern soul completely sets it apart from southern soul...very energetic, very positive, sheer fun
	8:24pm ultradamno: It would have been weird for to be called Motown in Memphis though. People would have been like 'whaaaaa'
	8:26pm ?: Huh, well it seems my Jack-o'-lanterns didn't pan out to be ghost faces.
	8:26pm Little Danny: Definitely, Gaylord. And Motown in Memphis is certainly an interesting thought experiment either way. I don't think it would have sounded like the Motown we know, and the Motown that was the template for all the music that got sorted out in the UK as northern soul.
	8:27pm Uncle Michael: This song is like a See-Saw. (Hit & Run)
	8:28pm Gaylord Fields: @ultradamno: "Memphis-Otis-TOWN" works for me.
	8:29pm Little Danny: The connection between Motown, and the explosion of Detroit soul labels and artists, AND the local economic impact of the auto industry is fascinating.
	8:29pm Uncle Michael: It's said that that much of what's good is something trying to be something else and failing. Like genetic mutation. Like all the bands trying to duplicate the Beatles. A lot of Northern Soul sounds like failed recreations of Motown...succeeding by failing.
	8:30pm Gaylord Fields: @LD: The migratory patterns of the African-American disapora + Henry Ford's openness to hiring black workers are two of many factors.
	8:31pm Hot Fish: And most of folks making what would later be called "Norther Soul" were from the southern states.
	8:31pm Krypt PX: Sorry folks, forgetfulness it's just a sign of old age. Take two: it seems my jack-o'-lanterns didn't pan out to be ghost faces.
	8:32pm ChasG: You could fly first class to Manchester by cashing in the last few records!
	8:32pm Gaylord Fields: I guess you could say Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers were making Northernmost Soul for Motown.
	8:32pm Uncle Michael: It also seems to me that a lot of Northern Soul isn't so great...and gained traction by dint of obscurity. DJ culture being what it can be at times.
	8:33pm Uncle Michael: Tommy Chong's old band, Gaylord?
	8:33pm Hot Fish: I wholeheartedly agree Uncle
	8:34pm Little Danny: @UM: Same could be said for all collected and/or obsessed-over genres and styles.
	8:35pm Gaylord Fields: @UM: Correct! And In my estimation, Northern Soul encompasses some of the best and some of the worst records in the soul genre. To generalize wildly, sometimes it seems that what's more important is style and not substance.
	8:35pm Uncle Michael: Yes, Danny...agreed. But what distinguishes Northern Soul is that a bonafide youth culture scene came from it.
	8:36pm Uncle Michael: Agreed, Gaylord. Obscurity is what elevated the bad ones.
	8:36pm Gaylord Fields: @LD: I don't mean to pick on Northern Soul — I agree that pretty much all collectible genres are often not about the quality.
	8:36pm JtotheK: Always enjoy hearing about finds in the 50 cent bins!
	8:36pm Mr. Fine Wine: I tend to like the northern soul that's actually, like, SOUL.
	8:37pm Uncle Michael: I also like the ones that are really good soul-based dance records, buy maybe not soul...in the way that a lot of Motown wasn't soul.
	8:38pm Little Danny: Definitely. Arguably the first DJ/collector-driven scene anywhere? Though early disco and Jamaican scenes were happening sorta concurrently.
	8:38pm JtotheK: Mr Fine Wine did you borrow this Frank Wilson from Jack White???
	🍷 8:38pm DP: Hey FW. Appreciate the lesson on Northern Soul. I'd post an old Halloween pic but not allowed. Hope you have a great weekend.
	8:38pm Uncle Michael: but* maybe not soul
	8:39pm Little Danny: Ah, this Willie Hutch is so good.
	8:39pm JtotheK: Guess I’m not in the majority on the comments board in enjoying Northern Soul by non-soul artists!
	8:40pm Uncle Michael: I'd say definitely the first, Danny. In those other examples, the records were contemporaneous to the scene. Northern Soul records were 10 years old.
	8:40pm Mr. Fine Wine: Yes, Jack White NEEDS IT BACK
	8:41pm Hot Fish: What about the Canned Heat dudes breaking copies of blues 78s they found that they already had to drive up the value and obscurity?
	8:41pm Little Danny: Definitely immediate Four Tops influence on this Maurice Williams.
	8:41pm Uncle Michael: I'd say the best analog I can think of to Northern Soul is the Popcorn scene...which I know even less about.
	8:42pm Uncle Michael: Had not heard that story, Hot Fish. Really?
	8:43pm Little Danny: It is the clearest analog, Uncle Michael. A European-originated dance scene that revolved around obscure American music.
	8:43pm JtotheK: Yeah I like popcorn 45s, too! Arb on the jungle stream has some great stuff, and honky Tonk radio girl. I know just a very little about it.
	8:43pm luca: need me some eddie holman...i surrender ;)
	8:44pm Andres: Hey Mr. Fine Wine and all! Loving tonight's show! Also, must be said there is nothing "regular" about any Downtown Soulville show! My favourite story about Northern Soul is that the records made their way to Northern England ports as ballast in freighters. Don't know one way or the other about the veracity of that statement but have always liked the idea.
	8:44pm Uncle Michael: The four-on-the-floor beat is the connective tissue in all this Northern Soul. Larry Grogan explained that to me.
	8:44pm Hot Fish: Only something I read Unc, apparently Bear was a vicious collector
	8:45pm JtotheK: @luca or “Eddie’s My Name” ....
	8:45pm Hot Fish: Ahh T-Rex's wife.
	8:46pm Uncle Michael: Hot Fish, we learned about Henry Thomas in spite of the Bear and the Owl.
	8:46pm luka: nothin like being in a club with the floors coated with talcum when this gloria jones hits.
	8:46pm ChasG: The "Stairway to Heaven" of NS.
	8:46pm Hot Fish: Yeah thanks to Harry Smith
	8:47pm Ike_pOLTERGEIST: thank you so much mr. fine wine for an excellent show, entertaining AND informative
	8:47pm Uncle Michael: yup
	8:48pm Uncle Michael: yup for the three preceding comments
	8:48pm luca: @JtotheK: Rita & the Tiaras: Gone with the wind is my love
	8:50pm Hot Fish: Man i thought the Arthur Willis record was expensive...
	8:50pm JtotheK: Yeah Luca that Rita Tiaras 45 is one I hope to find in a 50 cent bin!
	8:50pm ultradamno: That just sounds like a lot of effort.
	8:52pm ultradamno: Nice 'clicky bits' (I still have EFDs Vic Malle show on the brain)
	8:53pm Hot Fish: FW: Are you gonna come to terms with "Deep Soul" on a future show?
	8:54pm Mr. Fine Wine: DEEP SOUL YES
	8:55pm Uncle Michael: This is better than any Maze record.
	8:56pm radioronan: Thanks Mr Fine Wine.. thanks skeletons!
	8:57pm JtotheK: Area store had this Frank Beverly 45 a number of years ago and I went beyond record budget to procure. Also Eddie Bo ‘From This Day On’ and - a Harvey Scales 45 - a decent day record shopping. (It was not in a 50 cent bin.)
	8:57pm Uncle Michael: Yes...thanks MFW!
	8:57pm JtotheK: Enjoyed the show and the chatting! Thanks Mr Fine Wine, cheers everyone.
	8:59pm Hot Fish: Thank you, Mister.
	8:59pm Little Danny: Thanks MFW!
	9:00pm ChasG: Thanks MFW for the heavy $pins! ;)
	9:00pm luca: thanks a bunch mister!
	6:45am doctherock: Hi there. Great Northern set! The Vibrations 'Cause Your Mine sounds very similar to The Bad Boys - It's More Like Voodoo! Both great tracks!
	4:00pm Clinto: The Northern Soul dance is very similar to the H and R Puffn'stuff dance!

Downtown Soulville with Mr. Fine Wine: Playlist from October 30, 2020

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October 30, 2020: Just say you're wanted and needed

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format
Chuck Edwards	Downtown Soulville "Downtown Soulville" by "Chuck Edwards"	45	Punch	45
Music behind DJ: The Rumblers	Soulful Jerk "Soulful Jerk" by "The Rumblers"	45	Downey	45
The Impressions	You've Been Cheating	45	ABC-Paramount	45
Joy Lovejoy	In Orbit "In Orbit" by "Joy Lovejoy"	45	Checker	45
The Cashmeres	Show Stopper "Show Stopper" by "The Cashmeres"	45	Hem	45
Otis Smith	Let Her Go "Let Her Go" by "Otis Smith"	45	Perception	45
The Coasters	Crazy Baby "Crazy Baby" by "The Coasters"	45	Atco	45
Music behind DJ: Luther Ingram Orchestra	Exus Trek	45	Hib	45
Gwen Owens	Just Say You're Wanted and Needed	45	Velgo	45
J.J. Barnes	Our Love Is in the Pocket	45	Revilot	45
Rose Battiste	Hit and Run "Hit and Run" by "Rose Battiste"	45	Revilot	45
Stanley Mitchell	Get It Baby "Get It Baby" by "Stanley Mitchell"	45	Dynamo	45
The Honey Bees	Let's Get Back Together	45	Garrison	45
Music behind DJ: San Remo Golden Strings	Festival Time	45	Ric Tic	45
Frank Wilson	Do I Love You (Indeed I Do)	45	Tamla Motown	45
Willie Hutch	Love Runs Out "Love Runs Out" by "Willie Hutch"	45	Dunhill	45
Maurice Williams	Being Without You	45	Sansu	45
Al Williams	I Am Nothing "I Am Nothing" by "Al Williams"	45	La Beat	45
Gloria Jones	Tainted Love "Tainted Love" by "Gloria Jones"	45	Champion	45
Music behind DJ: Just Brothers	Sliced Tomatoes "Sliced Tomatoes" by "Just Brothers"	45	Music Merchant	45
The Vibrations	'Cause You're Mine	45	Epic	45
Frank Beverly & the Butlers	If That's What You Wanted	45	Sassy	45
Chuck Wood	Seven Days Is Too Long	45	Roulette	45
The Dells	Run for Cover "Run for Cover" by "The Dells"	45	Cadet	45

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Listener comments!
	8:01pm ultradamno: MFW! Northern soulvillagers!
	8:02pm DjLorraine: I made it in
	8:02pm Mr. Fine Wine: Heya, folks!
	8:03pm loveless: Regarding Northern Soul, resistance is futile. Hello everyone.
	8:03pm Krypt PX: Do the boo-galoo👻
	8:04pm JtotheK: Looking forward to this one! I’ve a soft spot for northern soul crooners and such ... Paul Anka “I Can’t Help Loving You”, Boots Randolph “Take A Letter Maria” etc...
	8:05pm ChasG: North, South, East, West...if it's good, it's good.
	🍷 8:05pm chresti: Hi Mr. Fine Wine and downtowners!
	8:06pm ultradamno: Your pumpkins look extra spooky on this page. They're ghosts of jack o lanterns past.
	8:07pm Beep: Beep
	🍷 8:07pm chresti: They're scarier that way.
	8:13pm mariano: Hey MFW, Crew, fine-winos!
	8:13pm Little Danny: Looking forward to the show. Hi all!
	8:14pm mariano: Love how the orange wallpaper turns the Hellraiser jack-o-lanterns into ghost faces.
	8:14pm JtotheK: Back in August read “The Truth About Northern Soul - Unpacking the Myths” by Stephen Riley, a dude who was on the scene in its infancy.
	8:14pm ChasG: It seems that if you're name is Otis you automatically have 50/50 shot at making a great record.
	8:15pm ChasG: *your
	8:18pm Uncle Michael: Hello. Check out my hip drop.
	8:18pm Krypt PX: 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
	8:19pm Joe R.: I read Stuart Cosgrove’s Young Soul Rebels book on Northern Soul recently and found it pretty interesting. I liked his Detroit ‘67 book too...
	8:19pm Little Danny: Confusingly the preponderance of northern soul is actually from the northern United States.
	8:22pm JtotheK: Oh yeah that Northern Soul movie was ok. I saw it on Netflix, not sure if still available or not...
	8:23pm Gaylord Fields: @Little Danny: Yeah, hence the confusion. To extrapolate from what MFW said, if template-setting label Motown had for some reason been based in Memphis, it still would be called Northern Soul.
	8:23pm Uncle Michael: The story was thin, basically an excuse to depict the scene, which I'm led to believe the filmmakers did a good job with.
	8:24pm JtotheK: And it includes all genres - Dolly Parton “Busy Signal” for example.
	8:24pm luca: the dancing scene of northern soul completely sets it apart from southern soul...very energetic, very positive, sheer fun
	8:24pm ultradamno: It would have been weird for to be called Motown in Memphis though. People would have been like 'whaaaaa'
	8:26pm ?: Huh, well it seems my Jack-o'-lanterns didn't pan out to be ghost faces.
	8:26pm Little Danny: Definitely, Gaylord. And Motown in Memphis is certainly an interesting thought experiment either way. I don't think it would have sounded like the Motown we know, and the Motown that was the template for all the music that got sorted out in the UK as northern soul.
	8:27pm Uncle Michael: This song is like a See-Saw. (Hit & Run)
	8:28pm Gaylord Fields: @ultradamno: "Memphis-Otis-TOWN" works for me.
	8:29pm Little Danny: The connection between Motown, and the explosion of Detroit soul labels and artists, AND the local economic impact of the auto industry is fascinating.
	8:29pm Uncle Michael: It's said that that much of what's good is something trying to be something else and failing. Like genetic mutation. Like all the bands trying to duplicate the Beatles. A lot of Northern Soul sounds like failed recreations of Motown...succeeding by failing.
	8:30pm Gaylord Fields: @LD: The migratory patterns of the African-American disapora + Henry Ford's openness to hiring black workers are two of many factors.
	8:31pm Hot Fish: And most of folks making what would later be called "Norther Soul" were from the southern states.
	8:31pm Krypt PX: Sorry folks, forgetfulness it's just a sign of old age. Take two: it seems my jack-o'-lanterns didn't pan out to be ghost faces.
	8:32pm ChasG: You could fly first class to Manchester by cashing in the last few records!
	8:32pm Gaylord Fields: I guess you could say Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers were making Northernmost Soul for Motown.
	8:32pm Uncle Michael: It also seems to me that a lot of Northern Soul isn't so great...and gained traction by dint of obscurity. DJ culture being what it can be at times.
	8:33pm Uncle Michael: Tommy Chong's old band, Gaylord?
	8:33pm Hot Fish: I wholeheartedly agree Uncle
	8:34pm Little Danny: @UM: Same could be said for all collected and/or obsessed-over genres and styles.
	8:35pm Gaylord Fields: @UM: Correct! And In my estimation, Northern Soul encompasses some of the best and some of the worst records in the soul genre. To generalize wildly, sometimes it seems that what's more important is style and not substance.
	8:35pm Uncle Michael: Yes, Danny...agreed. But what distinguishes Northern Soul is that a bonafide youth culture scene came from it.
	8:36pm Uncle Michael: Agreed, Gaylord. Obscurity is what elevated the bad ones.
	8:36pm Gaylord Fields: @LD: I don't mean to pick on Northern Soul — I agree that pretty much all collectible genres are often not about the quality.
	8:36pm JtotheK: Always enjoy hearing about finds in the 50 cent bins!
	8:36pm Mr. Fine Wine: I tend to like the northern soul that's actually, like, SOUL.
	8:37pm Uncle Michael: I also like the ones that are really good soul-based dance records, buy maybe not soul...in the way that a lot of Motown wasn't soul.
	8:38pm Little Danny: Definitely. Arguably the first DJ/collector-driven scene anywhere? Though early disco and Jamaican scenes were happening sorta concurrently.
	8:38pm JtotheK: Mr Fine Wine did you borrow this Frank Wilson from Jack White???
	🍷 8:38pm DP: Hey FW. Appreciate the lesson on Northern Soul. I'd post an old Halloween pic but not allowed. Hope you have a great weekend.
	8:38pm Uncle Michael: but* maybe not soul
	8:39pm Little Danny: Ah, this Willie Hutch is so good.
	8:39pm JtotheK: Guess I’m not in the majority on the comments board in enjoying Northern Soul by non-soul artists!
	8:40pm Uncle Michael: I'd say definitely the first, Danny. In those other examples, the records were contemporaneous to the scene. Northern Soul records were 10 years old.
	8:40pm Mr. Fine Wine: Yes, Jack White NEEDS IT BACK
	8:41pm Hot Fish: What about the Canned Heat dudes breaking copies of blues 78s they found that they already had to drive up the value and obscurity?
	8:41pm Little Danny: Definitely immediate Four Tops influence on this Maurice Williams.
	8:41pm Uncle Michael: I'd say the best analog I can think of to Northern Soul is the Popcorn scene...which I know even less about.
	8:42pm Uncle Michael: Had not heard that story, Hot Fish. Really?
	8:43pm Little Danny: It is the clearest analog, Uncle Michael. A European-originated dance scene that revolved around obscure American music.
	8:43pm JtotheK: Yeah I like popcorn 45s, too! Arb on the jungle stream has some great stuff, and honky Tonk radio girl. I know just a very little about it.
	8:43pm luca: need me some eddie holman...i surrender ;)
	8:44pm Andres: Hey Mr. Fine Wine and all! Loving tonight's show! Also, must be said there is nothing "regular" about any Downtown Soulville show! My favourite story about Northern Soul is that the records made their way to Northern England ports as ballast in freighters. Don't know one way or the other about the veracity of that statement but have always liked the idea.
	8:44pm Uncle Michael: The four-on-the-floor beat is the connective tissue in all this Northern Soul. Larry Grogan explained that to me.
	8:44pm Hot Fish: Only something I read Unc, apparently Bear was a vicious collector
	8:45pm JtotheK: @luca or “Eddie’s My Name” ....
	8:45pm Hot Fish: Ahh T-Rex's wife.
	8:46pm Uncle Michael: Hot Fish, we learned about Henry Thomas in spite of the Bear and the Owl.
	8:46pm luka: nothin like being in a club with the floors coated with talcum when this gloria jones hits.
	8:46pm ChasG: The "Stairway to Heaven" of NS.
	8:46pm Hot Fish: Yeah thanks to Harry Smith
	8:47pm Ike_pOLTERGEIST: thank you so much mr. fine wine for an excellent show, entertaining AND informative
	8:47pm Uncle Michael: yup
	8:48pm Uncle Michael: yup for the three preceding comments
	8:48pm luca: @JtotheK: Rita & the Tiaras: Gone with the wind is my love
	8:50pm Hot Fish: Man i thought the Arthur Willis record was expensive...
	8:50pm JtotheK: Yeah Luca that Rita Tiaras 45 is one I hope to find in a 50 cent bin!
	8:50pm ultradamno: That just sounds like a lot of effort.
	8:52pm ultradamno: Nice 'clicky bits' (I still have EFDs Vic Malle show on the brain)
	8:53pm Hot Fish: FW: Are you gonna come to terms with "Deep Soul" on a future show?
	8:54pm Mr. Fine Wine: DEEP SOUL YES
	8:55pm Uncle Michael: This is better than any Maze record.
	8:56pm radioronan: Thanks Mr Fine Wine.. thanks skeletons!
	8:57pm JtotheK: Area store had this Frank Beverly 45 a number of years ago and I went beyond record budget to procure. Also Eddie Bo ‘From This Day On’ and - a Harvey Scales 45 - a decent day record shopping. (It was not in a 50 cent bin.)
	8:57pm Uncle Michael: Yes...thanks MFW!
	8:57pm JtotheK: Enjoyed the show and the chatting! Thanks Mr Fine Wine, cheers everyone.
	8:59pm Hot Fish: Thank you, Mister.
	8:59pm Little Danny: Thanks MFW!
	9:00pm ChasG: Thanks MFW for the heavy $pins! ;)
	9:00pm luca: thanks a bunch mister!
	6:45am doctherock: Hi there. Great Northern set! The Vibrations 'Cause Your Mine sounds very similar to The Bad Boys - It's More Like Voodoo! Both great tracks!
	4:00pm Clinto: The Northern Soul dance is very similar to the H and R Puffn'stuff dance!

Downtown Soulville with Mr. Fine Wine: Playlist from October 30, 2020

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