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Favoriting April 24, 2023: You're being watched by surveillance glasses, Tesla cars, and robot police dogs

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Today: You’re being watched by surveillance glasses, Tesla cars, and robot police dogs

An update on alarming recent innovations in tech: eyeglasses connected to an AI chat bot, Tesla cars with surveillance cameras, and two new robot police dogs that DEFINITELY will never be outfitted with weapons.

• Surveillance glasses and ChatGPT: audio from this video (March 25, 2023) features Stanford students Bryan Chiang and Varun Shenoy. Chiang writes, ”say goodbye to awkward dates and job interviews . . . we made rizzGPT -- real-time Charisma as a Service (CaaS) . . . it listens to your conversation and tells you exactly what to say next . . . built using GPT-4, Whisper and the Monocle AR glasses.” More at this Futurism article (April 17, 2023).



Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars (Reuters, Apr 6, 2023): "between 2019 and 2022, groups of Tesla employees privately shared via an internal messaging system sometimes highly invasive videos and images recorded by customers’ car cameras, according to interviews by Reuters with nine former employees." . . .

"Since about 2016, Tesla has employed hundreds of people in Africa and later the United States to label images to help its cars learn how to recognize pedestrians, street signs, construction vehicles, garage doors and other objects encountered on the road or at customers’ houses. To accomplish that, data labelers were given access to thousands of videos or images recorded by car cameras that they would view and identify objects."

• Link5G in the East Village:



Video of press conference (Apr 11, 2023) where NYC mayor Eric Adams officially launches "Digi-Dog" and K5 Knightscope robots - warning, YouTube link

Security Robots. DigiDog. GPS Launchers. Welcome to New York. (NYT, April 11, 2023):
Now, New York City is acquiring two robot dogs for a sum of roughly $750,000, using asset forfeiture funds. Officials said the dogs would not be used for routine patrol, but rather for life-threatening situations, including bomb threats.

. . . presiding over all of it was Mayor Eric Adams, who told the assembled news media that his continuing efforts to combat crime would most assuredly include robotic dogs — almost two years to the day after the New York Police Department bowed to public criticism and stopped using the technology.

“Digidog is out of the pound,” the mayor said.
The NYPD Can Now Shoot GPS Trackers at Your Car (Apr 13, 2023): “in the hands of a department known for its surveillance abuses, the presence of any new tracking tech is worrying.”

NYPD robocops: Hulking, 400-lb robots will start patrolling New York City (Ars Technica, Apr 12, 2023)

S.T.O.P. Condemns NYPD’s ‘Knockoff Robocop’ Police Drones (Apr 11, 2023): “How many more millions do we have to waste on biased, broken, and downright creepy technology before we realize it won’t work? We should be investing in actual human beings, not robots.”

• From Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society (1954, translated into English in 1964), page 100:
“The techniques of the police, which are developing at an extremely rapid tempo, have as their necessary end the transformation of the entire nation into a concentration camp. This is no perverse decision on the part of some party or government. To be sure of apprehending criminals, it is necessary that everyone be supervised. It is necessary to know exactly what every citizen is up to, to know his relations, his amusements, etc. . . . every citizen must be thoroughly known to the police and must live under conditions of discreet surveillance. All this results from the perfection of technical methods.”

Robot dog surveys damage at lower Manhattan parking garage collapse (Gothamist, Apr 18), followed by FDNY Robo-dog falls over (Futurism, Apr 21).


Above: the robo-dog from Black Mirror’s “Metalhead” episode


• And finally, thanks to WFMU’s Dave the Spazz (Thursdays 9pm-12mid Eastern), a Walgreens surveillance scale . . .



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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtanines!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark and all! Here for the first half of the show only, I'm afraid. Well, a meeting starting then.
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi all that want to know!
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Franco Twinkie:

Hello technophobes!
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ultradamno:

And aside from the puppies, there's also the daleks www.insideedition.com...
  6:02pm
Robm:

Hello fellow tech listeners
  6:02pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonicians!
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Deano de los Muertos:

Howdy Mark! 🤖
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Greg from ZONE 5:

Evening Mark!
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Webhamster Henry:

A robot "police" dog was sent into the collapsed garage on Ann St.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
DjLorraine:

Evening folks
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melinda:

hi friends
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Franco Twinkie:

Is there a warehouse full of Google Glasses some where in The Santa Clara Valley, or where they all put in a big grinder and turned into leisure wear?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
ultradamno:

Cyrano DeRobot?
  6:10pm
queems:

riz is a young person slang for charisma
Avatar 6:10pm
HyperDose:

"rizz" is what the kids are calling "having game" these days
  6:11pm
Sam:

Say goodbye to awkward dates? Ha! Say goodbye to dates period!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
ultradamno:

Your side of the conversation always starts with "OK, looking up my favorite color"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Webhamster Henry:

Obviously, ChatGPT talking to itself, via two rizzGPT users, is in the works.
Avatar 6:12pm
Jeff Moore:

Rizz - short for charisma, used by some Kids Today.

"Rizz is a slang term for skill in charming or seducing a potential romantic partner, especially through verbal communication. It is most commonly applied in the context of men pursuing women, but not always.

It is typically used in the exact same way as the older slang term game."
Avatar 6:12pm
VantuckyEd:

Holy crap. So now you won't know if you're hiring a literal dummy. Might as well just send a sock puppet in for the job interview.
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ VantuckyEd @6:12
As long as the glasses don't break, a sock monkey might do fine in that job!
  6:13pm
Sam:

Yeah, sounds so natural. Definitely hire that guy.
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HyperDose:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:12
Jeff Moore aka Rizzy Rizzleton over here 😏
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Bas NL:

Here's two chat bots talking.
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Jeff Moore:

↳ HyperDose @6:13
Ha!
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VantuckyEd:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:13
Man oh man. Imagine hiring some one completely ignorant of what you need. Fake it till you make it indeed.
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Jeff Moore:

Time to hold interviews in Faraday cages!
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ultradamno:

That's what that is (riz)....that is awful.
  6:15pm
kevlicki:

Hi mark and all
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Handy Haversack:

Huh. We use "CHA." It's not a dump stat!
Avatar 🤖 6:16pm
MarciB:

Wait, so now we can look forward to talking to others who are reading text thru their manadatory survellience glasses? I wanna go backwards...
  6:16pm
thurston howl:

Just hand me your glasses - they get the job.
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coelacanth∅:

"rizz"... but you're not required to dummy down our culture just because the zoomers are doing it
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Handy Haversack:

We passed a Tesla in Atlanta and must have walked too close to it and the "YOU ARE BEING RECORDED" screen came up. The people I was with had no idea this was a thing.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and funbots. "Chegg" is already taken. www.chegg.com I suspect the "Che" part is from "Cheat."
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Franco Twinkie:

What is the use by date on rizz?
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Jeff Moore:

Many things are unclear about the upcoming Apple surveillance glasses, but one thing it's safe to bet on:

They'll have a proprietary power connector!
Avatar 🤖 6:19pm
MarciB:

I read that Apple's surveillance goggles will be about $2000+ Like an early iPhone, which it will (supposedly) replace. My question - what if you don't want to wear glasses? (esp suvelleince glasses?)
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Jeff Moore:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:17
Probably two months ago, if we're hearing about it!
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Fredericks:

That would be the/a "Stalkee."
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coelacanth∅:

it's worth a few lives and the wellbeing of some women if i can find my keys
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HyperDose:

↳ MarciB @6:19
It's the headphone jack all over again. Adapt or be alienated from the product
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Sam:

Replace smartphones with rotary phones.
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melinda:

so damn creepy
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:19
I would put on satin gym short and a tube top before I said something as stupid as rizz.
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melinda:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:21
haha
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MarciB:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:21
Rizz is cringe lol
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Drunken Creep:

Ahoy Mark, easy on the stalker tags, youre broadcasting bad ideas not preventing them.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ MarciB @6:21
hahaha
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Handy Haversack:

↳ Sam @6:20
Way ahead of you! I stuck with the rotary in the first place.
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VantuckyEd:

No to sound to sardonic but thanks to this You would know that Ron in accounting has been working for years with full blown alzhiemers.
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Sam:

Combine this constant surveillance with the next Republican maniac president who doesn’t accept election results or democracy. And it’s game over. Imagine if Hitler had had this at his fingertips. Nobody would have gotten out of Germany.
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HyperDose:

So they want to take away from the human experience. We're meant to forget things, it's part of our design. Apple wants to "perfect" us. What's next, cybermen assimilation?
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Bas NL:

'Making small talk great again!'
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MarciB:

↳ Sam @6:22
This sort of thing keeps me up at night, actually
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VantuckyEd:

↳ VantuckyEd @6:22
oops..."wouldn't..."
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Jeff Moore:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:21
Riz/rizz only acceptable in:

Spring is sprung, the grass is riz.
I wonder where the birdies is.
They say the birdies on the wing, but that’s absurd.
I always thought the wing was on the bird.

Satin gym shorts and a tube top? Way less silly. With or without some leg warmers.
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ultradamno:

Is there a possibility that if two people both wearing surveillance glasses look at one another, the devices could pair with one another creating an infinity loop that will result in the fabric of space time?

That'll be Looper 2
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Franco Twinkie:

Where is Hewlett-Packard on the despicable scale?
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Carmichael:

↳ ultradamno @6:26
Or hopefully they will both explode.
  6:28pm
Brendan:

Southpark Grounded Vindaloop
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Jeff Moore:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:26
They made the only truly great calculators in the 1970s; after that, have they continued to exist?
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chresti:

If it's hitting children they have a long way to go.
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coelacanth∅:

thousands of gallons (at least) of house paint is discarded every day in the us. that paint could be used to cover tesla vehicles.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Pick your poison: Apple Car Play, Android Auto or Google in your car - www.theverge.com...
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:28
I'm using an HP desktop rescued from a trash pile. It works just fine, but is it rizz?
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ultradamno:

Speaking of Musk, the suspicious number of 'just pay for the check, you baby' responses to people (esp. high profile) who have reasonable complaints about Twitter's verification scam has been in overdrive over the weekend.
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MarciB:

Glad our Mini is from 2013. It has a CD player but no dash-cam.
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Dano59:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:30
c) none of the above... leaving d) WFMU app > iPhone > AUX IN
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MarciB:

↳ ultradamno @6:31
yes this has been gratifying to see
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:31
that's so vintage Franco. totally gas.
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Carmichael:

I've been waiting for an all-electric, but I would never get a Tesla, for about 1000 good reasons.
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tim from washington:

Hey Mark and everyone!
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Carmichael:

↳ Dano59 @6:32
Yep, iPhone > FMU app > Bluetooth.
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VantuckyEd:

I guess I''ll keep driving my tiny 2009 scion for as long as possible and then maybe convert it to bio fuel?
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Franco Twinkie:

I would rather step on a hypodermic needle in the gutter than use linkNYC.
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Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ:

Fascinating program as always, Mark.
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HyperDose:

↳ Carmichael @6:32
They lost me right away at the giant tablet. Didn't need to see any other specs
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Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ:

↳ VantuckyEd @6:34
I've got a 2012 diesel VW, 138,000 miles.... gonna keep it as long as I can.
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Dano59:

I hope it's cool to bring a two-way wrist radio on a blind date
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coelacanth∅:

i have a diamond-edged saw blade that would like to meet those towers.
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ultradamno:

X-Men in the village twitter.com...
  6:40pm
Barf:

Arguments in bad faith: the show
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Deano de los Muertos:

I’ve moved to central jersey and haven’t been to NYC much at all lately…but I have noticed surveillance towers all over the Lowe’s parking lots in my area
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ultradamno:

There was a huge stray pitbull outside my house when I was parking earlier and I was glad it wasn't a robot dog.
  6:43pm
castor:

I would say the the Link towers in places like the East Village do more to help tourists and unhoused people than the people who live there, which isn’t such a bad thing. But since the East Village/LES is historically and currently a place with a lot of unhoused people and drug users, as well as radical leftists, it makes a good case for the city to want to put more surveillance there.
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Dance the Blues:

Are robot dogs trained to stand around and scroll through IG like the NYPD does?
  6:44pm
lamegaming:

reminder that 700,000 or whatever could have gone to helping the homeless
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gone with the wind:

oh god sounds horrific!
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Jeff Moore:

How could ED-209 possibly go wrong?
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Webhamster Henry:

The flying tracker is what You Friendly Surveilling Spider-Man had!
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ultradamno:

I expect this is happening because the PD is bored with military gear.
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Franco Twinkie:

The East Village looks like TRON. Spend your vacation dollars in Omaha.
  6:46pm
Rolando:

Always a good show.
  6:47pm
Patty D:

What a loser
  6:47pm
Sam:

What happens to you if you pick up one of the robot dogs and chuck it in the river?
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DjLorraine:

Will it be given the same rights as an officer? Rizzla?
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ledzeppelinsucks:

Robots and military equipment.
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Dance the Blues:

Ah this is a joint marketing campaign launch thing.
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Bas NL:

Do they Digipoo?
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Dano59:

'what could possibly go wrong' is becoming the most ignored question of our age
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chris in the redwoods:

i'd freak the eff out if a robot dog came barging into my house. de-escalate my ass.
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ultradamno:

I'm imagining a propeller that comes out of the butt to make it into a dog motorboat.
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chresti:

Haha Bas!
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Carmichael:

Mayor Adams both mixed and drank the Kool-Aid.
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listener 126464:

Would make a good movie.
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melinda:

↳ Carmichael @6:48
totally
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Greg from ZONE 5:

How f#$%ing often are these situations happening that they need to spend almost a million dollars on robot dogs?!
  6:49pm
Nick K:

Digidog will be the judge, jury, and executioner
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chresti:

Not that much better than sending in a battering ram
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I need some money to start a chain of surveillance tech stores in Manhattan. I have an ad jingle ready to go: "Nobody beats the Riz!"
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chresti:

"ok ok, we'll accept digi dogs if they wear tutus"
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HyperDose:

Using facial recognition to direct live ammunition at "verified" targets is a terrifying prospect
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dale:

digi dog sounds like a rapper.
  6:51pm
Sam:

Don’t get me started on robots and their constant freakin’ dancing.
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MarciB:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:50
Very funny! Takes me back ;)
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gone with the wind:

↳ Sam @6:47
let's find out?
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chresti:

↳ ultradamno @6:48
Ha!
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chris in the redwoods:

hahahahahahaha! digidog, you comic genius, you.
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chresti:

↳ HyperDose @6:51
Yes, very!
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Dance the Blues:

↳ ultradamno @6:46
This
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DjLorraine:

NBC story was about blind people using ai to describe their situation or find objects. Be my eyes..ceo..
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gone with the wind:

...what is the endgame for all this surveillance ??
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HyperDose:

↳ chresti @6:55
It's notoriously prejudice and inaccurate. But if they're going for something to match the ineffectiveness of our own government, then they nailed it.
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Franco Twinkie:

Train the cops to be humane? Okay, now it's starting to sound like science fiction.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
coelacanth∅:

cops...humane... does not compute.
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chris in the redwoods:

↳ gone with the wind @6:55
for corporations, its money. for governments, its control.
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HyperDose:

Thanks, Mark!
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dale:

walgreens can use that info to send you coupons for diet aids or weight gain powder.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
ultradamno:

...well, the scale could have been set to stone measurements
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
chris in the redwoods:

thanks, Mark!
  6:58pm
Sam:

My dentist gave me an electric toothbrush that you’re supposed to link to your phone! Never!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
listener 126464:

Way to go, Mark.
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Smart air filter to go with your smart bathroom scale - www.filtrete.com... Thanks, Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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MarciB:

Great show - thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Franco Twinkie:

Thank Mark. Your ire gives me hope.
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dk50b:

First heard digidogs were back was the invaluable first time use by FDNY in last week's garage collapse. Didn't realize they're back to attacking citizens too gothamist.com...
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ultradamno:

If you mentioned Bodah it would have been like Monday's Reservoir Dogs...
  6:59pm
castor:

Thanks Mark!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
bleubombersune:

Thanks Mark
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
be well accu peeps!!!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Good comments! See you next week when Dave Mandl is my in-studio guest.
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