WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 7, 2020

Listener comments!
	6:00pm David in London: Evening Technoids. Hello Mark.
	6:00pm P-90: Greetings.
	6:01pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Techtolsheviks!
	6:01pm Roland from Australia: Hello All, and Web Hamster Henry I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your interview with Mark Hurst a while back. Thank you for all your contribution to WFMU. Now here I am in Australia benefiting from the work you did all those years ago
	6:02pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy
	6:02pm David in London: Ultradamno. Hail to thee.
	6:02pm ultradamno: American Voices piece in The Onion on Wal Mart + “Until Walmart starts treating its workers fairly, I’ll be sticking with Amazon Prime.” www.theonion.com...
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	6:03pm P-90: Hola Olivia at the board!
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Mark & Boing-Boing readers!
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey, Mark and techtoscriveners. Would a business venture installing tinfoil shingles be a good opportunity?
	6:04pm P-90: Boing? BOING!
	6:04pm TDK60: Hello.
	6:04pm brainiac: So looking forward to hearing Cory Doctorow today. Hi everyone.
	6:05pm David in London: Yo Phillippe.
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Happy 150est!
	6:05pm P-90: Well, Happy Third Anniversary!
	6:05pm Claire from Montclair: Congratulations!
	🤖 6:05pm PaulRobeson1920: Warm greetings everyone! Beautiful summer night, if only for awhile
	6:05pm Baja Joe: Congrats on CL episode
	6:05pm brainiac: RIP David Graeber
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: @Roland in AU Thanks! Most of my stuff is gone now; the interface you are using was mad by Kenzo, who you can hear on Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza, Mondays at 3 on the Drummer Stream!
	6:07pm David in London: TDK, brainiac. All the classic groovers are here. Except Handy, who is probably trashed in the park by now.
	🤖 6:10pm PaulRobeson1920: We’re doin it LIVE!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining! @Baja, thx for the CL congrats.
	6:11pm ultradamno: And congrats to making the fall sched.
	6:11pm brainiac: Hi Divid in London! I'm saying hi to Handy in the future listening on the archives.
	6:11pm holland oats: long time listener (via podcast), first time live show commenter - go mark!
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: @ultra thanks. It continues to be a privilege to be part of the WFMU lineup.
	🤖 6:12pm PaulRobeson1920: Goodness Gracious! Bananas!? A storied history...
	6:12pm P-90: Has anyone yet gotten Doctorow and Zuboff together to discuss all this?
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @holland - appreciate it! And welcome to the comment board!
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: @Ken from HP good idea, tinfoil shingles. Then we can finally take these hats off
	🤖 6:14pm PaulRobeson1920: Interesting... Modes of domination & Max Weber, comes to mind!
	🤖 6:15pm PaulRobeson1920: How do we come to know what we know? Good question haha
	6:15pm Dean: Right: reduce corporate power, and not just big tech corporate power.
	6:15pm Dave Miss: Happy Labor Day techies
	6:16pm P-90: Hm, I didn’t think Fidget Spinners would come up this soon in the interview...
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: Glad there's a new Little Brother book.
	6:16pm Dean: If only big tech could learn not to lie, much like, say, those insurance companies and banks never lie.
	6:17pm ultradamno: Or a foil house cozy
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: @P-90 Fidget Spinners and Scientology, just a normal day here on Techtonic
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: It starts with the cat videos.
	6:20pm brainiac: Hail Xemu
	🤖 6:20pm PaulRobeson1920: Oppenheimer... He felt and wrote every human being should read this next book! (seriously)
	🤖 6:21pm PaulRobeson1920: “Hiroshima Diary -The Journal of a Japanese Physician, August 6-September 30, 1945” by Dr. Michihiko Hachiya. director of the Hiroshima Communications Hospital when the world's first atomic bomb was dropped on the city.
	6:21pm brainiac: @Dave Miss: Can't wait to get my new WFMU Skeleton shirt!
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: @PaulRobeson thanks for the pointer
	🤖 6:23pm PaulRobeson1920: Thanks for this interview! Interesting stuff
	6:23pm a5vzener: None of my friends will admit to believing in science. I need new friends.
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: Flat Earther documentary covered on Techtonic - coincidentally - May 20, 2019 (a week after the Zuboff interview). www.wfmu.org...
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: @a5vzener well you're welcome here
	6:25pm Dean: That's a bit extreme: none of us is qualified to use our judgment without an advanced degree? STEM is not that hard. We are perfectly capable of assessing plausibility, authority, legitimacy, and the contours of our own capacities to understand.
	6:25pm listener pi: What about surveillance nonprofit?
	6:25pm ultradamno: Last Week Tonight did an excellent show on conspiracy thinking a few weeks ago.
	6:27pm a5vzener: This is bang-on. My flat-earther friend finds all his community from Australians who stay up late like him, drinking and doing their own "research". Doctorow is so right about this phenomenon.
	🤖 6:27pm Webhamster Henry: " The dismaying thing about classic totalitarian mind is that any given gear, thought mutilated, will have at its circumference unbroken sequences of teeth that are immaculately maintained, that are exquisitely machined. " -- Vonnegut, Mother Night
	6:28pm ultradamno: Probably doesn't help that Herman Cain is tweeting that Covid isn't as deadly as the media makes it out to be after having died of Covid www.huffpost.com...
	🤖 6:28pm PaulRobeson1920: “The Paranoid Style” by Richard Hofstadter 1964 Published in Harpers
	🤖 6:28pm PaulRobeson1920: Makes sense of a conspiratorial world view. In that essay
	6:29pm Dean: For the point about monopolist machinations to maintain monopoly, see Robert Horwitz, The Irony of Regulatory Reform.
	🤖 6:29pm PaulRobeson1920: This is a very interesting interview
	6:29pm castor: The USA is such a beautiful self-combusting tragedy, so happy I get to live to through the madness.
	6:30pm Baja Joe: The First Edition Of Monopoly, 1906
	6:31pm Rory: Joe Biden will fix it :D
	6:31pm Rory: Or not
	🤖 6:31pm PaulRobeson1920: With a pat on the back and a good Job Johnny... Our humanity is capable of anything...
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: The consolidation of Media, Banking, Telephony, Airlines, automobiles, ... there's just so much monopoly and collusion.
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: @Webham I'd like to get Matt Stoller on the show at some point - he's written a lot about all those consolidating industries
	6:32pm mayor delay: in monopoly you r supposed to pronounce the s at the end of arkansas ave
	🤖 6:33pm PaulRobeson1920: Mhmm
	🤖 6:36pm Webhamster Henry: @Mark you'd need a longer show!
	6:40pm ultradamno: Except I doubt surveillance, foreign or not, is really Trump's TikTok issue.
	6:41pm P-90: Cory’s one of those guys that expresses himself extemporaneously in nice well-formed complete paragraphs.
	6:41pm ultradamno: He would love to move on Twitter and Facebook for political speech and has declared as much, the foreign angle is just his hook with them.
	6:42pm Dean: Some time ago in response to an acquaintance who argued that he has "nothing to hide" I gave the Glenn Greenwald response: "Okay, then, tell me your SSN and your birthdate." And he did.
	6:43pm anon: i'm surveilling my hummingbird feeders, the love bugs are feeding off the nectar and the anoles are taking care of the love bugs and the fighter pilot hummingbirds get their fill of nectar to fuel their flight to Central America and beyond to Tierra del Fuego and back.
	6:45pm P-90: @ultra: security IS the TIkTok issue, but Trump’s motivation for jumping on board is that it gave him another thing to beat up on China for, after he finally figured out that Xi had suckered him...
	6:46pm northguineahills: Here, been listening, but working..
	6:46pm Mark Hurst: @ngh hi!
	6:47pm northguineahills: I’m in central FL, and I rarely see lovebugs anymore.
	6:48pm ultradamno: I don't believe he cares that much about that. He like bringing up China mostly because it lets him inject a racist angle.
	🤖 6:49pm Webhamster Henry: I've wanted to make a new Facebook client for some time. There's no official way to get the stuff you want to get though.
	🤖 6:51pm Webhamster Henry: alt.barney.kill.kill.kill
	6:51pm Lisboner Pasc: Marvellous show tonight! Thanks Mark and greetings from Lisbon :-)
	6:51pm Mark Hurst: @Webham I remember that one!
	6:52pm ultradamno: Usenet and My Deja...
	🤖 6:52pm Webhamster Henry: alt.sex.hello.kitty
	6:52pm Mark Hurst: @Pasc thanks! Glad you're listening from Lisbon! Hi from NYC.
	🤖 6:53pm Webhamster Henry: Binaries were broken up into numbered pieces encoded in base64 encoding.
	6:53pm Lisboner Pasc: Thanks Mark, what an interview! -- got so much I want to dig into + research after this, Doctorow is superb
	6:55pm David in London: Damn, that hour flew past. Thanks Mark, great interview.
	6:55pm TDK60: Thanks Mark.
	6:55pm Rory: Thanks Mark, it will only get worse and the masses accept or blame other countries.
	🤖 6:55pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:56pm P-90: @ultra: Trump is FURIOUS at Xi. Check how his rhetoric towards China has changed since the first few months of 2020. Trump was happy to completely trust them on the COVID outbreak, and spent many weeks in the key early stages of its spread praising Xi’s “containment” and parroting China’s statements and reassurances. Because Trump thought he was getting a big trade deal that would help him get re-elected.
	6:56pm northguineahills: This interview made me remember my youthier days....(some nostalgia references)
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:56pm PaulRobeson1920: That was a very interesting interview
	6:56pm ultradamno: Huffpost piece on Last Week Tonight www.huffpost.com...
	6:57pm Claire from Montclair: Great show!
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks Mark! Also Ruth, Olivia, and Cory Doctorow.
	6:58pm ultradamno: That is the business of government, he doesn't care about that AT ALL.
	6:58pm Rory: Drones are normal
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark & Cory! A show on Boing Boing and the transition from zines to ezines would be fun!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Great chat tonight.
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @Claire thanks for joining in!
	🤖 6:59pm Webhamster Henry: Little brother books are fun! the tech is a little outdated now though.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 7, 2020

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September 7, 2020: Cory Doctorow, author, "How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism"

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Tonight: Cory Doctorow, author, "How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism"

Pointers:

• How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism, full text of the book by Cory Doctorow

• @doctorow (Twitter)

• Pluralistic (Cory's "old-fashioned link-blog")

• Craphound.com (Cory's homepage)

• Techtonic interview with Shoshana Zuboff, author of "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism" (May 13, 2020 show)

• Amazon wants to use delivery drones to surveil your house (Protocol, Aug 30): "In Amazon's vision of the future, drones are going to be blanketing the sky, delivering packages to us, day in, day out... Amazon envisions using the drones' cameras for home surveillance, scanning for things like broken windows and people on a property. Because who wouldn't want the company behind Ring and Rekognition to be scanning for whether you're home all the time?"

• Outtro by Matt Robertson, who explains: ""I liken the surveillance phenomenon to a huge slow moving airship that everyone can see, but because it just hovers around really slowly, after a while people become used to it and eventually ignore it or get used to its presence." Thanks to DJ Scott Williams for the pointer!

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm David in London: Evening Technoids. Hello Mark.
	6:00pm P-90: Greetings.
	6:01pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Techtolsheviks!
	6:01pm Roland from Australia: Hello All, and Web Hamster Henry I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your interview with Mark Hurst a while back. Thank you for all your contribution to WFMU. Now here I am in Australia benefiting from the work you did all those years ago
	6:02pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy
	6:02pm David in London: Ultradamno. Hail to thee.
	6:02pm ultradamno: American Voices piece in The Onion on Wal Mart + “Until Walmart starts treating its workers fairly, I’ll be sticking with Amazon Prime.” www.theonion.com...
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hiya DiL!
	6:03pm P-90: Hola Olivia at the board!
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Mark & Boing-Boing readers!
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey, Mark and techtoscriveners. Would a business venture installing tinfoil shingles be a good opportunity?
	6:04pm P-90: Boing? BOING!
	6:04pm TDK60: Hello.
	6:04pm brainiac: So looking forward to hearing Cory Doctorow today. Hi everyone.
	6:05pm David in London: Yo Phillippe.
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Happy 150est!
	6:05pm P-90: Well, Happy Third Anniversary!
	6:05pm Claire from Montclair: Congratulations!
	🤖 6:05pm PaulRobeson1920: Warm greetings everyone! Beautiful summer night, if only for awhile
	6:05pm Baja Joe: Congrats on CL episode
	6:05pm brainiac: RIP David Graeber
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: @Roland in AU Thanks! Most of my stuff is gone now; the interface you are using was mad by Kenzo, who you can hear on Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza, Mondays at 3 on the Drummer Stream!
	6:07pm David in London: TDK, brainiac. All the classic groovers are here. Except Handy, who is probably trashed in the park by now.
	🤖 6:10pm PaulRobeson1920: We’re doin it LIVE!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining! @Baja, thx for the CL congrats.
	6:11pm ultradamno: And congrats to making the fall sched.
	6:11pm brainiac: Hi Divid in London! I'm saying hi to Handy in the future listening on the archives.
	6:11pm holland oats: long time listener (via podcast), first time live show commenter - go mark!
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: @ultra thanks. It continues to be a privilege to be part of the WFMU lineup.
	🤖 6:12pm PaulRobeson1920: Goodness Gracious! Bananas!? A storied history...
	6:12pm P-90: Has anyone yet gotten Doctorow and Zuboff together to discuss all this?
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @holland - appreciate it! And welcome to the comment board!
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: @Ken from HP good idea, tinfoil shingles. Then we can finally take these hats off
	🤖 6:14pm PaulRobeson1920: Interesting... Modes of domination & Max Weber, comes to mind!
	🤖 6:15pm PaulRobeson1920: How do we come to know what we know? Good question haha
	6:15pm Dean: Right: reduce corporate power, and not just big tech corporate power.
	6:15pm Dave Miss: Happy Labor Day techies
	6:16pm P-90: Hm, I didn’t think Fidget Spinners would come up this soon in the interview...
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: Glad there's a new Little Brother book.
	6:16pm Dean: If only big tech could learn not to lie, much like, say, those insurance companies and banks never lie.
	6:17pm ultradamno: Or a foil house cozy
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: @P-90 Fidget Spinners and Scientology, just a normal day here on Techtonic
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: It starts with the cat videos.
	6:20pm brainiac: Hail Xemu
	🤖 6:20pm PaulRobeson1920: Oppenheimer... He felt and wrote every human being should read this next book! (seriously)
	🤖 6:21pm PaulRobeson1920: “Hiroshima Diary -The Journal of a Japanese Physician, August 6-September 30, 1945” by Dr. Michihiko Hachiya. director of the Hiroshima Communications Hospital when the world's first atomic bomb was dropped on the city.
	6:21pm brainiac: @Dave Miss: Can't wait to get my new WFMU Skeleton shirt!
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: @PaulRobeson thanks for the pointer
	🤖 6:23pm PaulRobeson1920: Thanks for this interview! Interesting stuff
	6:23pm a5vzener: None of my friends will admit to believing in science. I need new friends.
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: Flat Earther documentary covered on Techtonic - coincidentally - May 20, 2019 (a week after the Zuboff interview). www.wfmu.org...
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: @a5vzener well you're welcome here
	6:25pm Dean: That's a bit extreme: none of us is qualified to use our judgment without an advanced degree? STEM is not that hard. We are perfectly capable of assessing plausibility, authority, legitimacy, and the contours of our own capacities to understand.
	6:25pm listener pi: What about surveillance nonprofit?
	6:25pm ultradamno: Last Week Tonight did an excellent show on conspiracy thinking a few weeks ago.
	6:27pm a5vzener: This is bang-on. My flat-earther friend finds all his community from Australians who stay up late like him, drinking and doing their own "research". Doctorow is so right about this phenomenon.
	🤖 6:27pm Webhamster Henry: " The dismaying thing about classic totalitarian mind is that any given gear, thought mutilated, will have at its circumference unbroken sequences of teeth that are immaculately maintained, that are exquisitely machined. " -- Vonnegut, Mother Night
	6:28pm ultradamno: Probably doesn't help that Herman Cain is tweeting that Covid isn't as deadly as the media makes it out to be after having died of Covid www.huffpost.com...
	🤖 6:28pm PaulRobeson1920: “The Paranoid Style” by Richard Hofstadter 1964 Published in Harpers
	🤖 6:28pm PaulRobeson1920: Makes sense of a conspiratorial world view. In that essay
	6:29pm Dean: For the point about monopolist machinations to maintain monopoly, see Robert Horwitz, The Irony of Regulatory Reform.
	🤖 6:29pm PaulRobeson1920: This is a very interesting interview
	6:29pm castor: The USA is such a beautiful self-combusting tragedy, so happy I get to live to through the madness.
	6:30pm Baja Joe: The First Edition Of Monopoly, 1906
	6:31pm Rory: Joe Biden will fix it :D
	6:31pm Rory: Or not
	🤖 6:31pm PaulRobeson1920: With a pat on the back and a good Job Johnny... Our humanity is capable of anything...
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: The consolidation of Media, Banking, Telephony, Airlines, automobiles, ... there's just so much monopoly and collusion.
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: @Webham I'd like to get Matt Stoller on the show at some point - he's written a lot about all those consolidating industries
	6:32pm mayor delay: in monopoly you r supposed to pronounce the s at the end of arkansas ave
	🤖 6:33pm PaulRobeson1920: Mhmm
	🤖 6:36pm Webhamster Henry: @Mark you'd need a longer show!
	6:40pm ultradamno: Except I doubt surveillance, foreign or not, is really Trump's TikTok issue.
	6:41pm P-90: Cory’s one of those guys that expresses himself extemporaneously in nice well-formed complete paragraphs.
	6:41pm ultradamno: He would love to move on Twitter and Facebook for political speech and has declared as much, the foreign angle is just his hook with them.
	6:42pm Dean: Some time ago in response to an acquaintance who argued that he has "nothing to hide" I gave the Glenn Greenwald response: "Okay, then, tell me your SSN and your birthdate." And he did.
	6:43pm anon: i'm surveilling my hummingbird feeders, the love bugs are feeding off the nectar and the anoles are taking care of the love bugs and the fighter pilot hummingbirds get their fill of nectar to fuel their flight to Central America and beyond to Tierra del Fuego and back.
	6:45pm P-90: @ultra: security IS the TIkTok issue, but Trump’s motivation for jumping on board is that it gave him another thing to beat up on China for, after he finally figured out that Xi had suckered him...
	6:46pm northguineahills: Here, been listening, but working..
	6:46pm Mark Hurst: @ngh hi!
	6:47pm northguineahills: I’m in central FL, and I rarely see lovebugs anymore.
	6:48pm ultradamno: I don't believe he cares that much about that. He like bringing up China mostly because it lets him inject a racist angle.
	🤖 6:49pm Webhamster Henry: I've wanted to make a new Facebook client for some time. There's no official way to get the stuff you want to get though.
	🤖 6:51pm Webhamster Henry: alt.barney.kill.kill.kill
	6:51pm Lisboner Pasc: Marvellous show tonight! Thanks Mark and greetings from Lisbon :-)
	6:51pm Mark Hurst: @Webham I remember that one!
	6:52pm ultradamno: Usenet and My Deja...
	🤖 6:52pm Webhamster Henry: alt.sex.hello.kitty
	6:52pm Mark Hurst: @Pasc thanks! Glad you're listening from Lisbon! Hi from NYC.
	🤖 6:53pm Webhamster Henry: Binaries were broken up into numbered pieces encoded in base64 encoding.
	6:53pm Lisboner Pasc: Thanks Mark, what an interview! -- got so much I want to dig into + research after this, Doctorow is superb
	6:55pm David in London: Damn, that hour flew past. Thanks Mark, great interview.
	6:55pm TDK60: Thanks Mark.
	6:55pm Rory: Thanks Mark, it will only get worse and the masses accept or blame other countries.
	🤖 6:55pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:56pm P-90: @ultra: Trump is FURIOUS at Xi. Check how his rhetoric towards China has changed since the first few months of 2020. Trump was happy to completely trust them on the COVID outbreak, and spent many weeks in the key early stages of its spread praising Xi’s “containment” and parroting China’s statements and reassurances. Because Trump thought he was getting a big trade deal that would help him get re-elected.
	6:56pm northguineahills: This interview made me remember my youthier days....(some nostalgia references)
	🤖 6:56pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:56pm PaulRobeson1920: That was a very interesting interview
	6:56pm ultradamno: Huffpost piece on Last Week Tonight www.huffpost.com...
	6:57pm Claire from Montclair: Great show!
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks Mark! Also Ruth, Olivia, and Cory Doctorow.
	6:58pm ultradamno: That is the business of government, he doesn't care about that AT ALL.
	6:58pm Rory: Drones are normal
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark & Cory! A show on Boing Boing and the transition from zines to ezines would be fun!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Great chat tonight.
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: @Claire thanks for joining in!
	🤖 6:59pm Webhamster Henry: Little brother books are fun! the tech is a little outdated now though.

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